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Old 21-06-2003, 04:44 PM
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Well, after getting 2 coons, I've bagged my first woodchuck. There are more
to follow I'm sure.
There's a whole colony of them near my garden. Used cantalope for bait.
This fellow is
now relocated and won't be coming back.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cwpflanze...=/trap&.view=t


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Old 21-06-2003, 07:08 PM
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holy #$@#, thats a big one!
i hate those DAMN things!

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"Charles P" wrote in message ...
Well, after getting 2 coons, I've bagged my first woodchuck. There are more
to follow I'm sure.
There's a whole colony of them near my garden. Used cantalope for bait.
This fellow is
now relocated and won't be coming back.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cwpflanze...=/trap&.view=t




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Old 21-06-2003, 08:08 PM
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 13:00:46 -0500, "rosie readandpost"
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holy #$@#, thats a big one!
i hate those DAMN things!


You should see one when he gets a ping in the butt...that fat ass
really carries some momentum with it, especially downhill (light speed
all the way to China, never saw him again). I think I got him before
he tasted the garden, otherwise there might've been repeat treatments,
something both of us like to avoid.

Dan

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Old 22-06-2003, 02:44 AM
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Kudos to you for capturing him alive and relocating.

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Well, after getting 2 coons, I've bagged my first woodchuck. There are

more
to follow I'm sure.
There's a whole colony of them near my garden. Used cantalope for bait.
This fellow is
now relocated and won't be coming back.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cwpflanze...=/trap&.view=t






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Old 22-06-2003, 02:56 PM
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"Seeker" wrote:

Kudos to you for capturing him alive and relocating.


Sure, pawn your problems off on someone else. Besides relocating is
illegal in many localities. .22LR HP works very well.

Ross.
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Old 22-06-2003, 10:56 PM
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"Seeker" wrote:

Kudos to you for capturing him alive and relocating.


Sure, pawn your problems off on someone else. Besides relocating is
illegal in many localities. .22LR HP works very well.


Unfortunately, I'm in the middle of an urban area a couple blocks
from the police station. I'd have to use a silencer, and I still
could get in trouble. My garden is surrounded by 12 acres of
woods on one side, and is next to a commercial office building
on the other. Animal control told me it was technically illegal
to relocate, but that's what they do anyhow.



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Old 23-06-2003, 12:20 AM
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On Sat, 21 Jun 2003 15:43:51 +0000, Charles P wrote:

Well, after getting 2 coons, I've bagged my first woodchuck. There are
more to follow I'm sure.
There's a whole colony of them near my garden. Used cantalope for bait.
This fellow is
now relocated and won't be coming back.

http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/cwpflanze...=/trap&.view=t


During the 1980s I trapped and relocated 50 raccoons and it did me no good
whatsoever, either they were finding their way back or others were taking
their place. I moved them 10 miles away to the other side of a major river
so I don't think that they were finding their way home, but if they were
you have to give them a tremendous amount of respect for accomplishing a
major feat of navigation. Eventually I gave up and just started to name
them. If you name a creature it moves from the category of pest to pet.
For example the woodchuck that lives under my barn is named Turing. BTW I
wouldn't set a trap today, there is a major rabies epidemic among
raccoons, you don't want to go anywhere near them.

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Old 23-06-2003, 03:32 AM
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During the 1980s I trapped and relocated 50 raccoons and it did me no good
whatsoever, either they were finding their way back or others were taking
their place.


If that's true, then it's bad news for me, it means I'll have to give up
gardening
or fence my garden. Fencing will be a major hassle and expense.

I moved them 10 miles away to the other side of a major river


I've moved a woodchuck to the other side of the Tennesee river.
No way he's coming back.

Eventually I gave up


If I give up, that means no more beans, brocolli, cabbage, and okra for
starters.

BTW I
wouldn't set a trap today, there is a major rabies epidemic among
raccoons, you don't want to go anywhere near them.


Well, it's impossible for them to bite while in the cage. If one
does attack, I suppose I'll be looking forward to the series
of rabies injections.






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Old 23-06-2003, 03:44 AM
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Sure, pawn your problems off on someone else.

Someone else as in deer? Maybe otters? Relocating to a non-populated area
is the obvious choice. It leads to the same end result with no unnecessary
violence towards the animal.


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Old 23-06-2003, 04:32 AM
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:27:32 +0000, Charles P wrote:


"B. Joshua Rosen" wrote in message
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During the 1980s I trapped and relocated 50 raccoons and it did me no
good whatsoever, either they were finding their way back or others were
taking their place.


If that's true, then it's bad news for me, it means I'll have to give up
gardening
or fence my garden. Fencing will be a major hassle and expense.

I moved them 10 miles away to the other side of a major river


I've moved a woodchuck to the other side of the Tennesee river. No way
he's coming back.

Eventually I gave up


If I give up, that means no more beans, brocolli, cabbage, and okra for
starters.

BTW I
wouldn't set a trap today, there is a major rabies epidemic among
raccoons, you don't want to go anywhere near them.


Well, it's impossible for them to bite while in the cage. If one does
attack, I suppose I'll be looking forward to the series of rabies
injections.


Raccoons are very smart animals. One of the things that I had to do when I
was trapping them was to put cinder blocks on top of and and on both sides
of the trap. My raccoons had figured out the latching mechanism on the
Havaheart trap. When one got caught another one would flip open the latch
and press the lever and free the trapped raccoon. The cinder blocks were
to heavy for the raccoons to move (although they tried) so they weren't
able to get to the latch.

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Old 23-06-2003, 09:56 AM
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BTW I
wouldn't set a trap today, there is a major rabies epidemic among
raccoons, you don't want to go anywhere near them.


Well, it's impossible for them to bite while in the cage. If one
does attack, I suppose I'll be looking forward to the series
of rabies injections.

It might be a good idea to check with a good medical facility about the
rabies issue and how it is spread if it doesn't require a direct bite. As
I remember, they don't have to bite you directly if you have an open cut
or scratch and some of the saliva gets on it. Just for that reason,
please be certain to wear long, heavy sleeves and leather gloves to ensure
that nothing comes in contact with your skin.

Just one of those times when an extra precaution can go a long way.

Congrats on relocation. That looks like a good area to turn them loose;
they certainly have options as to where to go. The squirrels I have been
relocating go to a park on the lake; no homes nearby but still "people
food" in the garbage cans and lots of nut trees, etc., with fresh water.
I'm not so kind with the possums and turn them loose away from the park,
but near a lot of brush so they at least have a chance with the hawks and
eagles. Tonight, I caught a mouse in the smaller trap so I guess he/she
goes for a ride tomorrow if he/she doesn't manage to squeeze out before
morning. There's one more young possum out there somewhere and I'm hoping
it wanders in soon so it can join its siblings and mother. The young ones
were terribly bold, not old enough to be afraid and were coming right up
on my covered patio (and enclosed) and going to the cat's dish with the
cat right there in its bed asleep! The first one we caught was sitting on
the lawn furniture cushions looking in my kitchen window! They are only
about half grown, and I feel badly taking them away from their "home"
(wherever it is when they're not in my yard), it's not their fault they
were born there . . . but it sure isn't mine either! I don't feel badly
enough to let them have the run of the yard and reproduce more of the
vicious things in our neighborhood! This last one was curled up asleep in
the corner when I went out to take it elsewhere. Darn it all, anyway,
they should have been born elsewhere, all the pests we must deal with
should have been born elsewhere.

Glenna

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Old 23-06-2003, 12:56 PM
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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 02:27:32 GMT, "Charles P"
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"B. Joshua Rosen" wrote in message
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During the 1980s I trapped and relocated 50 raccoons and it did me no good
whatsoever, either they were finding their way back or others were taking
their place.


If that's true, then it's bad news for me, it means I'll have to give up
gardening
or fence my garden. Fencing will be a major hassle and expense.


Or surround it by dogs...that works too.

Wherever I have lived, I have eventually found it best to
bite the bullet and get good fencing. Better to do it
sooner rather than later, IMHO, because it's going to come
to that eventually....

I don't know, however, what fencing would stop raccoons.
I'm not sure ANY fencing would, except maybe electric
fencing.

Pat



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On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 00:41:32 -0700, Glenna Rose wrote:

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BTW I
wouldn't set a trap today, there is a major rabies epidemic among
raccoons, you don't want to go anywhere near them.


Well, it's impossible for them to bite while in the cage. If one does
attack, I suppose I'll be looking forward to the series of rabies
injections.

It might be a good idea to check with a good medical facility about the
rabies issue and how it is spread if it doesn't require a direct bite.
As I remember, they don't have to bite you directly if you have an open
cut or scratch and some of the saliva gets on it. Just for that reason,
please be certain to wear long, heavy sleeves and leather gloves to
ensure that nothing comes in contact with your skin.

Just one of those times when an extra precaution can go a long way.

Congrats on relocation. That looks like a good area to turn them loose;
they certainly have options as to where to go. The squirrels I have
been relocating go to a park on the lake; no homes nearby but still
"people food" in the garbage cans and lots of nut trees, etc., with
fresh water. I'm not so kind with the possums and turn them loose away
from the park, but near a lot of brush so they at least have a chance
with the hawks and eagles. Tonight, I caught a mouse in the smaller
trap so I guess he/she goes for a ride tomorrow if he/she doesn't manage
to squeeze out before morning. There's one more young possum out there
somewhere and I'm hoping it wanders in soon so it can join its siblings
and mother. The young ones were terribly bold, not old enough to be
afraid and were coming right up on my covered patio (and enclosed) and
going to the cat's dish with the cat right there in its bed asleep! The
first one we caught was sitting on the lawn furniture cushions looking
in my kitchen window! They are only about half grown, and I feel badly
taking them away from their "home" (wherever it is when they're not in
my yard), it's not their fault they were born there . . . but it sure
isn't mine either! I don't feel badly enough to let them have the run of
the yard and reproduce more of the vicious things in our neighborhood!
This last one was curled up asleep in the corner when I went out to take
it elsewhere. Darn it all, anyway, they should have been born
elsewhere, all the pests we must deal with should have been born
elsewhere.

Glenna


Is there any particular reason to relocate a possum or a mouse? Raccoons
will destroy a garden, a mouse certainly won't and I don't think a possum
will either. Trying to relocate mice is a hopeless task anyway, they
reproduce in the thousands. Possums also have a very high reproduction
rate, much higher than you would expect for an animal that size.

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