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Andrew McMichael 07-08-2003 03:12 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 

This morning my pumpkin leaves were all covered with a white powder. I'm
assuming this is some kind of mold. Are there any organic remedies for this?





Andrew

FarmerDill 07-08-2003 05:22 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 

This morning my pumpkin leaves were all covered with a white powder. I'm
assuming this is some kind of mold. Are there any organic remedies for this?





Andrew

Powdery Mildew. I use baking soda, but coppersulphate based fungicides work
fine, Some folks used powdered milk with good results. It is an acid loving
fungus so any thing which is basic will work to some degree.


dstvns 07-08-2003 09:02 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 09:05:21 -0500, Andrew McMichael
wrote:

This morning my pumpkin leaves were all covered with a white powder. I'm
assuming this is some kind of mold. Are there any organic remedies for this?


Definetly powdery mildew. I had that a lot last year in the drought.
If you remove all vines in autumn, collect them in one spot and bury
1-2 ft you might be able to avoid it next year. By all means don't
abandon this years crop ;)

If you ever grow red bergamot flowers the mildew is notorious for
attacking it after they flower. But getting to see the hummingbirds
all daylight hours of summer is quite a sight.

Dan


len brauer 09-08-2003 02:33 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
g'day andrew,

powdery mildew, there is a recipe for using milk on my remedies page
(here in aus' now tv gardening shows aren't allowed to recommend using
natural products like milk anymore), i also found that good drainange
and growing the plants where they get plenty of air movement helps. it
doesn't necessarily mean you are going to lose the crop when i have
had it on zucchini i keep picking fruit until the plant gives out from
the effects of the mildew.

len

snipped
--
happy gardening
'it works for me it could work for you,'

"in the end ya' gotta do what ya' gotta do" but consider others and the environment
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DigitalVinyl 09-08-2003 03:02 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
(FarmerDill) wrote:

This morning my pumpkin leaves were all covered with a white powder. I'm
assuming this is some kind of mold. Are there any organic remedies for this?


Andrew

Powdery Mildew. I use baking soda, but coppersulphate based fungicides work
fine, Some folks used powdered milk with good results. It is an acid loving
fungus so any thing which is basic will work to some degree.


I have white spots developing on most of the pumpkin leaves.
Suspecting it might be the same powdery mildew I tried baking soda on
them. The next morning (after another night of rain) I came out and
all the leaves I put baking soda on were brown where the baking soda
was. Although the white spots are gone...the leaves look like they are
near dead.

Is this what happens with a baking soda remedy??





DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
1st Year Gardener

FarmerDill 09-08-2003 05:22 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
Usually; The baking soda is mixed one small box with 10 quarts of water and
sprayed or sprinkled on the plants. Never had any problems although yhe
commercial equivalent uses potassium bicarbonate instead of sodium.

Noydb 09-08-2003 07:02 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:

(FarmerDill) wrote:

This morning my pumpkin leaves were all covered with a white powder. I'm
assuming this is some kind of mold. Are there any organic remedies for
this?


Andrew

Powdery Mildew. I use baking soda, but coppersulphate based fungicides
work
fine, Some folks used powdered milk with good results. It is an acid
loving fungus so any thing which is basic will work to some degree.


I have white spots developing on most of the pumpkin leaves.
Suspecting it might be the same powdery mildew I tried baking soda on
them. The next morning (after another night of rain) I came out and
all the leaves I put baking soda on were brown where the baking soda
was. Although the white spots are gone...the leaves look like they are
near dead.

Is this what happens with a baking soda remedy??


DV,
It sounds like you applied the baking soda as a powder. Baking soda is in
fact a pretty strong chemical.

The baking soda needs to be applied as a weak water dilution. It acts by
changing the surface pH of the leaves. Only a very tiny change is needed.
Try a tablespoon in a two gallon sprayer and apply just to the point of
wetting the leaves. Since the goal is not to modify the soil pH, avoid
runoff.

You could also add a 'spreader/sticker' such as a tablespoon of Palmolive
green dishwashing liquid or a similar quantity of molasses to the spray
solution.

Most anti-mildew preparations work best as preventatives that serve as a
barrier to penetration by the fungi. Once the leaf is penetrated, the fungi
have a toehold and it is hard to dislodge them since they are also plants
and anything powerful enough to kill the fungi is also powerful enough to
harm your desireable plants.

AFAIK, Lime, powdered milk, copper sulfate compounds, lime/copper mixes,
baking soda and compost teas all work on the concept of presenting a
barrier that will prevent colonization on the leaf by fungi. The chemicals
work by presenting a poisonous environment (to the fungi ... not
necessarily to humans) and the compost tea by pre-infecting the leaves with
beneficial bacteria that can defend the leaf from invaders. This year I am
trying compost tea because I want to avoid applying any harsh chemicals
wherever possible to do so. I got whopped by powdery mildew last year (see
the archives for this group on google.com) so this year I am taking a
pro-active stance and spraying defensively. The problem with this is that I
have too small of a garden to allow for a test plot to know if powdery
mildew would have been a factor or not so it's difficult to access the
benefit of one treatment regimen or another.

Hope this helps. I think your problem with the baking soda is simply that
you applied it at too intense of a concentration. Back off to a very dilute
concentration and you should be fine.

Bill
--
Zone 5b (Detroit, MI)
I do not post my address to news groups.


DigitalVinyl 11-08-2003 06:08 AM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
Noydb wrote:

DV,
It sounds like you applied the baking soda as a powder.


Yup, yup, yup, yup
Yessir indeedy.


Oops.


The mildew is gone though!
By tomorrow maybe those leaves as well. LOL

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
1st Year Gardener

Andrew McMichael 11-08-2003 04:02 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:
I have white spots developing on most of the pumpkin leaves.
Suspecting it might be the same powdery mildew I tried baking soda on
them. The next morning (after another night of rain) I came out and
all the leaves I put baking soda on were brown where the baking soda
was. Although the white spots are gone...the leaves look like they are
near dead.


Ditto for me, too.





Andrew

Andrew McMichael 11-08-2003 04:02 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
DigitalVinyl wrote:

Noydb wrote:

DV,
It sounds like you applied the baking soda as a powder.


Yup, yup, yup, yup
Yessir indeedy.




I put it in water, maybe 2 Tb to a quart. Too much, I suppose.


Andrew

Andrew McMichael 11-08-2003 04:02 PM

White powder on pumkpkin leaves
 
len brauer wrote:

g'day andrew,

when i have
had it on zucchini i keep picking fruit until the plant gives out from
the effects of the mildew.



Well, it has spread to my zuccs, which have powder on the leaves and white
spots on the fruit. Fruit still edible?



Andrew


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