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I have been growing different verities of Tomato's for years. I discovered
Heirlooms a couple of years ago. I was so proud to do so well with Brandywines. I'm not a big Tomato eater but I do like the Pink Brandywine. I really grow them for my wife and the neighbors. My wife says grow Celebrities (grow Celebrities) and I do. But isn't there a Heirloom Tomato that taste just as good if not better then a Celebrity. Thanks Bill |
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If you like Celebrity why on earth would you like to find an heirloom with the same taste qualities.....Celebrity is super for its desease resistance and Bush Celebrity is even furher enhanced in this respect...with heirlooms there is a far greater chance of running into problems.......HW |
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"Anne Middleton/Harold Walker" wrote in message news:YS7Z9.57666$Ve4.6721@sccrnsc03...
If you like Celebrity why on earth would you like to find an heirloom with the same taste qualities.....Celebrity is super for its desease resistance and Bush Celebrity is even furher enhanced in this respect...with heirlooms there is a far greater chance of running into problems.......HW It would seem that old threads never die. They even pop back up almost two years later. Amazing, especially when I found my posts in the original thread. |
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In article YS7Z9.57666$Ve4.6721@sccrnsc03,
"Anne Middleton/Harold Walker" wrote: If you like Celebrity why on earth would you like to find an heirloom with the same taste qualities.....Celebrity is super for its desease resistance and Bush Celebrity is even furher enhanced in this respect...with heirlooms there is a far greater chance of running into problems.......HW So, if I want a meaty tasty tomato I should consider growing Celebrity and probably not try Heirloom Amish Brandywine? I only have room for about six tomato plants and I was going to get the Heirloom brandywine, but if they have a lot of problems it might not be the best choice. Heather H. - trying to remind herself that she will have a 1 yr old to contend with while gardening this year. |
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So, if I want a meaty tasty tomato I should consider growing Celebrity
and probably not try Heirloom Amish Brandywine? I only have room for about six tomato plants and I was going to get the Heirloom brandywine, but if they have a lot of problems it might not be the best choice. Heather H. - trying to remind herself that she will have a 1 yr old to contend with while gardening this year. I would only grow Brandywine as a novelty if you have lots of room. The best all around tomato is Betterboy--great taste, vigorous grower, large fruit, widely adapted and the most prolific producer in the tomato family, disease tolerant for fusarium, verticillium |
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I grow brandywine and never had problems with it. Not only that, the taste
cannot be beat. I respectfully disagree with Harold Walker. Heirlooms have been around for many years and have survived all kinds of problems, unlike hybrids which are touted as being so disease resistant. Besides being around for years, the taste is delicious, cannot compare it to hybrids. You will have to experiment to find out what is best for your area and stick to that. Heather Husvar wrote: In article YS7Z9.57666$Ve4.6721@sccrnsc03, "Anne Middleton/Harold Walker" wrote: If you like Celebrity why on earth would you like to find an heirloom with the same taste qualities.....Celebrity is super for its desease resistance and Bush Celebrity is even furher enhanced in this respect...with heirlooms there is a far greater chance of running into problems.......HW So, if I want a meaty tasty tomato I should consider growing Celebrity and probably not try Heirloom Amish Brandywine? I only have room for about six tomato plants and I was going to get the Heirloom brandywine, but if they have a lot of problems it might not be the best choice. Heather H. - trying to remind herself that she will have a 1 yr old to contend with while gardening this year. |
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I respectfully disagree with Harold Walker.????????? No problem at all
with disagreements...we are all entitled to our opinions...and another comment to follow.......have you ever tried to grow heirlooms in the same spot year after year after year due to space limitations?.....HW |
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Alice Gamewell wrote: I grow brandywine and never had problems with it. Not only that, the taste cannot be beat. I respectfully disagree with Harold Walker. Heirlooms have been around for many years and have survived all kinds of problems, unlike hybrids which are touted as being so disease resistant. Besides being around for years, the taste is delicious, cannot compare it to hybrids. You will have to experiment to find out what is best for your area and stick to that. Thanks. I think I'm going to not worry about it so much and get what I like. I'm in zone 5 so I'm in a nice growing area. :) Heather H. |
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 06:44:22 GMT, Alice Gamewell
wrote: I grow brandywine and never had problems with it. Not only that, the taste cannot be beat. I respectfully disagree with Harold Walker. Heirlooms have been around for many years and have survived all kinds of problems, unlike hybrids which are touted as being so disease resistant. Besides being around for years, the taste is delicious, cannot compare it to hybrids. You will have to experiment to find out what is best for your area and stick to that. I grew Brandywines in northern Pennsylvania last summer. We got exactly *TWO* ripe tomatoes from four Brandywine plants. I would certainly not recommend them to anyone with cool nights in summer and/or a short growing season. I will never try Brandywines here again - unless I have a greenhouse someday. Even so, I don't think I'd grow them again, they were a disappointment to me in just about all ways. I didn't find their taste better than - say - Better Boy either. Pat -- Pat Meadows CLICK DAILY TO FEED THE HUNGRY United States: http://www.stopthehunger.com/ International: http://www.thehungersite.com/ |
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"Anne Middleton/Harold Walker" wrote in message . net...
I respectfully disagree with Harold Walker.????????? No problem at all with disagreements...we are all entitled to our opinions...and another comment to follow.......have you ever tried to grow heirlooms in the same spot year after year after year due to space limitations?.....HW While the Brandywines I have grown here have tasted fantastic, they are very low in production, maybe 10-15 tomatoes per plant per season. So, I wouldn't recommend them if you don't have much room. There are several varieties of heirloom tomatoes that produce well and have a good taste. Mortgage Lifter is very prolific and mine averaged around 24 ounces. The taste beats any hybrid I have found. Delicious also is prolific and tasty and seems to have some disease resistance. I think the heirloom versus hybrid question can be solved by considering what you want out of your tomato plants. If you want uniformity and disease resistance, by all means grow hybrids. If you want variety and taste, go with the heirlooms. I usually plant between 15 and 20 tomato plants each year in a very limited space. Out of these, only 1 or 2 are hybrids. The only reason I grow hybrids at all is in case I have a very disease prone year (like last year). Then, at least, I still have a good number of tomatoes. Despite the unexpected 50 degree cold snap in June (almost unheard of in TN) and the excessive rain which made the blights worse than usual (both early and septoria), I still would have had tomatoes to give away even without the hybrids. To avoid planting in the same space year after year, I have two small patches. I grow cucumbers and melons in one, tomatoes, carrots and mesclun mix in the other. I rotate the crops back and forth each year. It would be better to have three patches to have an extra year but it is usually no problem. I also heavily amend the soil with homemade compost, greensand, gypsum and rock phosphate and have had pretty good luck as well growing in compost with no soil at all. If you try this yourself, be sure to check the pH of your compost as it can be highly variable depending on what went into it. Lee Hall South end of Zone 6B in Tennessee |
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Bill.......you certainly started something with this one....I have been growing tomatoes for over 60 years and have never (yet ) been with a group of more than one person that could agree on the best tomato. Harold the Immigrant. |
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I am curious if someone has grown both (big boy) and (better boy) and would
be willing to give information about their preference as to the best selection of the two. Thanks |
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On Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:11:21 GMT,since it's all about me
"Anne Middleton/Harold Walker" professed: Harold...would you please include some attributes with your posts so that it is clear to whom you're responding? An attribute, in case you're not sure, is that little tag at the top of this message that tells anyone who is reading that I'm responding to you. I respectfully disagree with Harold Walker.????????? No problem at all with disagreements...we are all entitled to our opinions...and another comment to follow.......have you ever tried to grow heirlooms in the same spot year after year after year due to space limitations?.....HW Yes. At my old house I had exactly one spot that got enough sun for tomatoes and peppers. It was about 12 feet long and 3 feet wide. I grew heirloom and open pollinated tomatoes there for 14 years with no problems. At my new place I have lots and lots of sun, but The War of The Thrips is raging. Last summer, I lost most of my tomatoes by mid-July because thrip damage was followed by a succession of diseases. The two varieties that came through war still producing were Brandywine and Arkansas Traveler. The only bell peppers that survived, in case you're interested, were a Polish heirloom, Buran, Geeez, those are tough little pepper plants! They produced in the hottest part of the summer and in the cool, cool fall. (Seeds or plants are available at www.seedsavers.com) The many varieties of hot peppers kicked Thrip butt. Pam -- "Maybe you'd like to ask the Wizard for a heart." "ElissaAnn" |
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While the Brandywines I have grown here have tasted fantastic, they
are very low in production, maybe 10-15 tomatoes per plant per season. So, I wouldn't recommend them if you don't have much room. There are several varieties of heirloom tomatoes that produce well and have a good taste. Mortgage Lifter is very prolific and mine averaged around 24 ounces. The taste beats any hybrid I have found. Delicious also is prolific and tasty and seems to have some disease resistance. I think the heirloom versus hybrid question can be solved by considering what you want out of your tomato plants. If you want uniformity and disease resistance, by all means grow hybrids. If you want variety and taste, go with the heirlooms. I usually plant between 15 and 20 tomato plants each year in a very limited space. Out of these, only 1 or 2 are hybrids. The only reason I grow hybrids at all is in case I have a very disease prone year (like last year). Then, at least, I still have a good number of tomatoes. Despite the unexpected 50 degree cold snap in June (almost unheard of in TN) and the excessive rain which made the blights worse than usual (both early and septoria), I still would have had tomatoes to give away even without the hybrids. *snip* Lee Hall South end of Zone 6B in Tennessee Lee, Thanks for your information. Naturally, the things you've stated here are exactly why I'm having such difficulty deciding what I want to grow. I have small area, but I really do love Brandywines. However, I don't seem them as "doable" because I want something prolific as I want to be able to have food for a family of five, including canning for the winter season, etc. So, after all of this, I have still not made a decision although I've thrown about a couple ideas here and have made it so my husband's eyes glaze over with boredom when I mention the word "tomato". :) Heather H. |
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