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tomato leaf curling
Hi There,
I have had a few problems with my tomatoes of late so I thought I would query the experts. My first plant's leaf curled vertically and started getting yellow spots on the leaves - it hasn't really picked up, someone suggested Epsom salts, but I just put some blood and bone down to see if it would pick up. Anyway, I purchased another plant and now it's leaves are turning over on itself - like curling horizontally - it also has some yellowing on the edges and brown as well. This is a fairly new patch that has not has anything growing in it for 20 years so I am not too concerned if my first go is not too great. I live in Subtropical conditions, and we are still in our summer over here. I have not had tomatoes on this part previously. any suggestions will be greatly appreciative Denise Brisbane, Australia |
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tomato leaf curling
Australia has been on our news lately as literally the whole continent being
on fire. Possibly it's just too hot for the tomato plants now and that may be why the leaves have been curling up on your plants! A small Iowa, USA gardener. |
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Hey Andy,
Thanks for the reply - yes the place has been heating up quite a bit - but not where I live. In fact it has been raining for the last three days (yay) up here. The fires have mainly been south of Brisbane - about 1400 miles south My folks live in Canberra, in the next suburb to where the fires ripped through - they were pretty lucky. Dad has given up on his veggie garden..... they are now in a stage 5 water restriction which means buckets only. It is getting too hard for him to keep the water up. I think he is going to concentrate on his roses. Denise "Andy N" wrote in message news:Nnj%9.135686$Ve4.9047@sccrnsc03... Australia has been on our news lately as literally the whole continent being on fire. Possibly it's just too hot for the tomato plants now and that may be why the leaves have been curling up on your plants! A small Iowa, USA gardener. |
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Sorry about the humor in my earlier post. It appears to me that your plants
might be getting too much moisture and that may be causing the leaves to curl, especially if they are turning yellow first. |
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What are your most common weeds? Not that I'd recognize them, having never
been to Australia, but any info about their (the weeds') growth habits would help. I am a firm believer that weeds will tell one more about a soil than any other indicator. -- Please see our website of gardening products at http://www.southernexposure.com Peace Cricket "Denise" wrote in message ... Hi There, I have had a few problems with my tomatoes of late so I thought I would query the experts. My first plant's leaf curled vertically and started getting yellow spots on the leaves - it hasn't really picked up, someone suggested Epsom salts, but I just put some blood and bone down to see if it would pick up. Anyway, I purchased another plant and now it's leaves are turning over on itself - like curling horizontally - it also has some yellowing on the edges and brown as well. This is a fairly new patch that has not has anything growing in it for 20 years so I am not too concerned if my first go is not too great. I live in Subtropical conditions, and we are still in our summer over here. I have not had tomatoes on this part previously. any suggestions will be greatly appreciative Denise Brisbane, Australia |
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Oh yea, and whatever you are experiencing, I would bet, can at least be
mostly minimized by addressing the soil in either via nutrient or moisture. -- Please see our website of gardening products at http://www.southernexposure.com Peace Cricket "Cricket" wrote in message news:T5H%9.145$Fi3.94@fe01... What are your most common weeds? Not that I'd recognize them, having never been to Australia, but any info about their (the weeds') growth habits would help. I am a firm believer that weeds will tell one more about a soil than any other indicator. -- Please see our website of gardening products at http://www.southernexposure.com Peace Cricket "Denise" wrote in message ... Hi There, I have had a few problems with my tomatoes of late so I thought I would query the experts. My first plant's leaf curled vertically and started getting yellow spots on the leaves - it hasn't really picked up, someone suggested Epsom salts, but I just put some blood and bone down to see if it would pick up. Anyway, I purchased another plant and now it's leaves are turning over on itself - like curling horizontally - it also has some yellowing on the edges and brown as well. This is a fairly new patch that has not has anything growing in it for 20 years so I am not too concerned if my first go is not too great. I live in Subtropical conditions, and we are still in our summer over here. I have not had tomatoes on this part previously. any suggestions will be greatly appreciative Denise Brisbane, Australia |
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On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:10:25 +1000, Denise wrote:
Hi There, I have had a few problems with my tomatoes of late so I thought I would query the experts. My first plant's leaf curled vertically and started getting yellow spots on the leaves - it hasn't really picked up, someone suggested Epsom salts, but I just put some blood and bone down to see if it would pick up. Anyway, I purchased another plant and now it's leaves are turning over on itself - like curling horizontally - it also has some yellowing on the edges and brown as well. This is a fairly new patch that has not has anything growing in it for 20 years so I am not too concerned if my first go is not too great. I live in Subtropical conditions, and we are still in our summer over here. I have not had tomatoes on this part previously. any suggestions will be greatly appreciative Denise Brisbane, Australia Denise, Do a web search for "tomato diseases". MANY 'official' sites have photographs of diseased leaves, stems, root and fruit that will help you pinpoint the exact problem and suggest a reasonable tactic for dealing with it. Do you smoke tobacco? Some diseases can come from contact with hands that have had contact with tobacco. At any rate ... there ARE photos out there. Your assignment this week is to find them. :-) Bill |
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Without seeing exactly what your plants look like I could be wrong here but it sounds to me like you may have Verticillium or Fusarium Wilts. Both of which are soilborne diseases which cause yellowing and curling of the leaves, wilting and premature death of the plants. These diseases persist in gardens where susceptible plants are grown. Once they build up in the soil, the only practical control is the use of resistant varieties or to not plant tomatoes in the same location for at least five years as both are systemic problems. More times than not, the culprit enters the garden from the seedling stock you purchased. This is one reason I never purchase seedlings any longer and I dunk all my seeds prior to even thinking about germinating them. In later phases of this problem it can and normally does start to mottle the fruit and cause fruit shape deformation. Timber www.timberslodge.net ....a Step Through Time "Bill" wrote in message news On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:10:25 +1000, Denise wrote: Hi There, I have had a few problems with my tomatoes of late so I thought I would query the experts. My first plant's leaf curled vertically and started getting yellow spots on the leaves - it hasn't really picked up, someone suggested Epsom salts, but I just put some blood and bone down to see if it would pick up. Anyway, I purchased another plant and now it's leaves are turning over on itself - like curling horizontally - it also has some yellowing on the edges and brown as well. This is a fairly new patch that has not has anything growing in it for 20 years so I am not too concerned if my first go is not too great. I live in Subtropical conditions, and we are still in our summer over here. I have not had tomatoes on this part previously. any suggestions will be greatly appreciative Denise Brisbane, Australia Denise, Do a web search for "tomato diseases". MANY 'official' sites have photographs of diseased leaves, stems, root and fruit that will help you pinpoint the exact problem and suggest a reasonable tactic for dealing with it. Do you smoke tobacco? Some diseases can come from contact with hands that have had contact with tobacco. At any rate ... there ARE photos out there. Your assignment this week is to find them. :-) Bill |
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On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:45:52 GMT, "Timber" wrote in
rec.gardens.edible: This is one reason I never purchase seedlings any longer and I dunk all my seeds prior to even thinking about germinating them. I have not heard of "dunking" seeds. How is it done? -- Spelling and grammatical errors are deliberate to catch copyright violators. ©¿©¬ Perth, Ontario, Canada |
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It's easy as pie.
Run your tap water till it is as hot as you can get it Put your seeds into any type of fabric sack, I use a knee high stocking. Dunk the seeds into the hot water and count to ten Repeat four or five times Spread seeds out onto a sheet of paper, I use wax paper Allow to air dry That's all there is to it. This will not kill anything and everything but it helps out bunches! I cure all my seeds at time or harvest by squishing the tomatoes into a bucket and allow them to stand for a week or two in the outside air (put a screen meshing over the top so critters don't get into the stinky mess) At the end of a week or two (depends on the ambient temperature) I drain this whole mess into a sifter. Rinse and rinse, then place back into the bucket and fill it with water. After an half hour or so the gunk will have sunk to the bottom. Sift the seeds off of the top. Rinse the bucket again and dump the seeds back into it and soak it overnight. The seeds which float to the top I throw away as more times than not, these are the bad ones! Collect the seeds on the bottom and air dry. Package for storage. In the spring when you are germinating---dunk them as described above. These two processes together have allowed me to have fewer problems than any other method or chemical for over a decade now. Timber www.timberslodge.net ....a Step Through Time "Jim Carter" wrote in message ... On Thu, 06 Mar 2003 15:45:52 GMT, "Timber" wrote in rec.gardens.edible: This is one reason I never purchase seedlings any longer and I dunk all my seeds prior to even thinking about germinating them. I have not heard of "dunking" seeds. How is it done? -- Spelling and grammatical errors are deliberate to catch copyright violators. ©¿©¬ Perth, Ontario, Canada |
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Timber's advice is excellent but I would like to add some comments.
Recognizing specific tomatoe diseases is quite difficult and is aided by local experience. The symptons you describe are common to a number of diseases. My plants (I live in Victoria, Australia) this year have similar symptons and I believe it is a virus desease. I sow my own seeds (for the reasons given by Timber) and I sterilise the soil (all my plants are by necessity grown in containers so that is easy) with formaldehyde (from the local pharmacy).I grow a bush variety and a staking variety. At first I removed the affected leaves but eventually the bush variety (which I grow for an early crop) succumbed but not before a good crop had been harvested. The staking variety is still doing fine. The desease attacks the lower leaves and as I progressively remove these lower leaves and harvest from the lower branches, the plants keep growing upwards and produce new healthy leaves and healthy fruits. So a solution is to first do all the things Timber advised and then to grow a tall staking variety pruned to one stem. When growing tomatoes during the rainy season in tropical Africa we had problems with fungal deseases (symptons not unlike your description). Spraying once a week with an appropriate fungicide before the first symptons of the desease was effective in preventing fungal dieases. Some tomatoe varieties are resistant to wilt deseases. Wilt deseases are the worst and usually result in death of the plant. They may be caused by bacteria or virus and are carried in the soil but one wilt desease may be carried by thrips from host plants (not necessarily tomatoes). Mike Stickney "Timber" wrote in message hlink.net... Without seeing exactly what your plants look like I could be wrong here but it sounds to me like you may have Verticillium or Fusarium Wilts. Both of which are soilborne diseases which cause yellowing and curling of the leaves, wilting and premature death of the plants. These diseases persist in gardens where susceptible plants are grown. Once they build up in the soil, the only practical control is the use of resistant varieties or to not plant tomatoes in the same location for at least five years as both are systemic problems. More times than not, the culprit enters the garden from the seedling stock you purchased. This is one reason I never purchase seedlings any longer and I dunk all my seeds prior to even thinking about germinating them. In later phases of this problem it can and normally does start to mottle the fruit and cause fruit shape deformation. Timber www.timberslodge.net ...a Step Through Time "Bill" wrote in message news On Mon, 03 Feb 2003 09:10:25 +1000, Denise wrote: Hi There, I have had a few problems with my tomatoes of late so I thought I would query the experts. My first plant's leaf curled vertically and started getting yellow spots on the leaves - it hasn't really picked up, someone suggested Epsom salts, but I just put some blood and bone down to see if it would pick up. Anyway, I purchased another plant and now it's leaves are turning over on itself - like curling horizontally - it also has some yellowing on the edges and brown as well. This is a fairly new patch that has not has anything growing in it for 20 years so I am not too concerned if my first go is not too great. I live in Subtropical conditions, and we are still in our summer over here. I have not had tomatoes on this part previously. any suggestions will be greatly appreciative Denise Brisbane, Australia Denise, Do a web search for "tomato diseases". MANY 'official' sites have photographs of diseased leaves, stems, root and fruit that will help you pinpoint the exact problem and suggest a reasonable tactic for dealing with it. Do you smoke tobacco? Some diseases can come from contact with hands that have had contact with tobacco. At any rate ... there ARE photos out there. Your assignment this week is to find them. :-) Bill |
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