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Papavar giganteum
Got some fresh green Papavar giganteum pods with stalk, would it be
possible to keep them alive in a jug of water for them to carry out their natural Opium forming routine or will they die a death on me. Thanks Fudge |
Papavar giganteum
Katra wrote: .......................... Question: Isn't it illegal to cultivate P. somniferum anywhere in the United States? So why do they sell the seeds at the seed stores?? I've wondered that for years. I read an article in a garden magazine that told about growing them. It said it was for people in Europe because in the US they were not legal to grow. Right after that, I saw them for sale in a Thompson & Morgan catalog. I ordered some and grew them for about 2 years. I grew them in a flower bed right near the street too. They were pretty. I got compliments. Steve |
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Steve wrote: Katra wrote: .......................... Question: Isn't it illegal to cultivate P. somniferum anywhere in the United States? So why do they sell the seeds at the seed stores?? I've wondered that for years. I read an article in a garden magazine that told about growing them. It said it was for people in Europe because in the US they were not legal to grow. Right after that, I saw them for sale in a Thompson & Morgan catalog. I ordered some and grew them for about 2 years. I grew them in a flower bed right near the street too. They were pretty. I got compliments. Steve But you did not try to "milk" the pods did you? ;-) I've thought about calling the local extension office and checking it out. There seems to be a lot of controvery about growing them. I have some seeds, but have never tried to plant them. I'd _love_ to grow them just for the beauty and the seeds... These are a mixed color variety. K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... ,,Cat's Haven Hobby Farm,,Katraatcenturyteldotnet,, http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:42:07 -0500, Katra
wrote: In article , Steve wrote: Katra wrote: .......................... Question: Isn't it illegal to cultivate P. somniferum anywhere in the United States? So why do they sell the seeds at the seed stores?? I've thought about calling the local extension office and checking it out. There seems to be a lot of controvery about growing them. I have some seeds, but have never tried to plant them. I'd _love_ to grow them just for the beauty and the seeds... These are a mixed color variety. I've read a few times that it's okay to grow them as long as you don't do the slitting-the-pods thing to get opium. We have some that volunteer every year in our vegetable garden. I've tried growing them other places, and they never do as well. --Rebecca |
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 13:15:18 UTC, rebecca
opined: On Sun, 18 Jul 2004 04:42:07 -0500, Katra wrote: In article , Steve wrote: Katra wrote: .......................... Question: Isn't it illegal to cultivate P. somniferum anywhere in the United States? So why do they sell the seeds at the seed stores?? I've thought about calling the local extension office and checking it out. There seems to be a lot of controvery about growing them. I have some seeds, but have never tried to plant them. I'd _love_ to grow them just for the beauty and the seeds... These are a mixed color variety. I've read a few times that it's okay to grow them as long as you don't do the slitting-the-pods thing to get opium. We have some that volunteer every year in our vegetable garden. I've tried growing them other places, and they never do as well. I have never heard that either P. Somniferum or Giganteum is edible by humans. Neither is usually regarded as a table vegetable, pot herb, or flavoring agent. What, then, is the justification for discussing them in rec.gardens.EDIBLE, seeing that there are other newsgroups in which they would be actually on-topic? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
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Katra wrote: ........... But you did not try to "milk" the pods did you? ;-) ..... No, I didn't. I suppose I should have cut one or two just enough to see if the sap really would come out. I did harvest some of the seeds. For those who don't know, the seeds used in baking (for poppy seed rolls etc.) are seeds from the opium poppy. You can buy those in the store near the spices usually. I don't know if they have been heated to kill them or not. That jogs my memory... That article that I said I read many years ago... I remember it was written by a woman who grew up in Europe (Germany?) and she told how she and her sister would go out an play in the poppy fields. Their mother would warn them not to eat too many poppy seeds. They liked those seeds though and would pour out the seeds from several pods and eat them. She said they would then go home and sleep the rest of the afternoon. Steve |
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Stan Goodman wrote: I have never heard that either P. Somniferum or Giganteum is edible by humans. Neither is usually regarded as a table vegetable, pot herb, or flavoring agent. What, then, is the justification for discussing them in rec.gardens.EDIBLE,........................... Well, it's a stretch but the original poster did seem to want to consume the product, in some way or other. As for P. somniferum, we did manage to swing that around to harvesting poppy seeds. Steve |
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"Steve" wrote in message
... Katra wrote: .......................... Question: Isn't it illegal to cultivate P. somniferum anywhere in the United States? So why do they sell the seeds at the seed stores?? I've wondered that for years. I read an article in a garden magazine that told about growing them. It said it was for people in Europe because in the US they were not legal to grow. Right after that, I saw them for sale in a Thompson & Morgan catalog. I ordered some and grew them for about 2 years. I grew them in a flower bed right near the street too. They were pretty. I got compliments. Steve T & M bowed to U.S. pressure, and two years ago quit selling their "Hens and Chicks" P. Somniferum. I wonder how much good that really did, other than making some bureaucrats look like crusaders. Just another example of our effective govenment. You can grow poppies, just don't harvest the opium, as I understand it. |
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Steve wrote: Stan Goodman wrote: I have never heard that either P. Somniferum or Giganteum is edible by humans. Neither is usually regarded as a table vegetable, pot herb, or flavoring agent. What, then, is the justification for discussing them in rec.gardens.EDIBLE,........................... Well, it's a stretch but the original poster did seem to want to consume the product, in some way or other. As for P. somniferum, we did manage to swing that around to harvesting poppy seeds. Steve I find it interesting that he said that the poppies were not edible. ;-) What do they use for poppy seed rolls? Growing them for seeds is indeed on topic. K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... ,,Cat's Haven Hobby Farm,,Katraatcenturyteldotnet,, http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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I've noticed a white seeded poppy, the packet says it's used for
halva. Is that P. somniferum as well? |
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In article tMGKc.116999$IQ4.61765@attbi_s02,
"John Watson" wrote: www.parkseed.com sells them: http://www.parkseed.com/webapp/wcs/s...splay?storeId= 10101&catalogId=10066&langId=-1&mainPage=prod2working&ItemId=3149&FromTextSear ch=poppy John So does this site, and it specifically states that the seeds and pods sold by them within the US are for decorative purposes only as opium poppies are currently illegal to grow within the US. http://www.poppiesinternational.com/ This is so wierd.... K. -- Sprout the Mung Bean to reply... ,,Cat's Haven Hobby Farm,,Katraatcenturyteldotnet,, http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...user id=katra |
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On 18 Jul 2004 17:13:31 -0700, (Pen) wrote:
I've noticed a white seeded poppy, the packet says it's used for halva. Is that P. somniferum as well? Did they supply a recipe? I actually do see a recipe that says it is Halva and uses poppy seed for garnish [http://www.recipezaar.com/recipe/getrecipe.zsp?id=84921 ] but it doesn't resemble anything I'd call Halva. The traditional Halva[h] that I've eaten is mostly sesame seeds. [and egg albumen if memory serves]. I'm sure it's made differently around the world-- but here's a recipe that looks like what I've eaten [though without the egg-- I'll check the label next time I'm shopping]; 2 cups brown sugar 2/3 cup sesame tahini 2/3 cup milk 1 tsp vanilla cook the sugar and milk in sauce pan over medium heat to just under soft ball stage, to 230F. Remove from fire and add tahini and vanilla. Do not mix immediately. Let cool for 2 minutes. Beat with paddle or spoon for a few seconds and pour quickly into a buttered pan. xxxxxxxxxxx Jim |
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"Katra" wrote in message
So does this site, and it specifically states that the seeds and pods sold by them within the US are for decorative purposes only as opium poppies are currently illegal to grow within the US. http://www.poppiesinternational.com/ This is so wierd.... K. The weirdest thing is paying $375 for seeds! |
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