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Diogs where they don't belong
What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into
my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. Fence your property. |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower"
opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. |
Diogs where they don't belong
Stan Goodman wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. I can attest to the effectiveness of the motion sprinkler. Dogs certainly won't like it! Rabbits, squirrels, and racoons don't like it either. I can't say the meter reader guy was overly impressed at our old home. DH on more than one occasion got an additional shower along with his morning coffee. I initially bought mine to protect our pond but now am using it in the garden. Depending on your set-up, you may need two to protect all areas. I move mine around a fair amount so the critters don't get to accustomed to the direction the spray is coming from. Another option may be a Fido electric fence around your garden. That will be effective for whatever garden you put it around but won't help much for your lawn and other unprotected areas. The last option I can think of besides fencing is cayenne pepper either powdered or spray solution. The downside is you have to reapply after a rain. You might want to contact animal control for a more permanent solution. If the dogs are not ferral yet running loose, animal control should be able to fine the owners. Ferral dogs may be a health issue so animal control should come out and catch them. |
Diogs where they don't belong
Stan Goodman wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. I can attest to the effectiveness of the motion sprinkler. Dogs certainly won't like it! Rabbits, squirrels, and racoons don't like it either. I can't say the meter reader guy was overly impressed at our old home. DH on more than one occasion got an additional shower along with his morning coffee. I initially bought mine to protect our pond but now am using it in the garden. Depending on your set-up, you may need two to protect all areas. I move mine around a fair amount so the critters don't get to accustomed to the direction the spray is coming from. Another option may be a Fido electric fence around your garden. That will be effective for whatever garden you put it around but won't help much for your lawn and other unprotected areas. The last option I can think of besides fencing is cayenne pepper either powdered or spray solution. The downside is you have to reapply after a rain. You might want to contact animal control for a more permanent solution. If the dogs are not ferral yet running loose, animal control should be able to fine the owners. Ferral dogs may be a health issue so animal control should come out and catch them. |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:16:38 UTC, "Anonny Moose"
opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. Thank you. If someone has an idea involving a repellant substance, I would be happy to hear it. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 15:29:15 UTC, nutNhoney opined:
Stan Goodman wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. I can attest to the effectiveness of the motion sprinkler. Dogs certainly won't like it! Rabbits, squirrels, and racoons don't like it either. I can't say the meter reader guy was overly impressed at our old home. DH on more than one occasion got an additional shower along with his morning coffee. I initially bought mine to protect our pond but now am using it in the garden. Depending on your set-up, you may need two to protect all areas. I move mine around a fair amount so the critters don't get to accustomed to the direction the spray is coming from. Another option may be a Fido electric fence around your garden. That will be effective for whatever garden you put it around but won't help much for your lawn and other unprotected areas. The last option I can think of besides fencing is cayenne pepper either powdered or spray solution. The downside is you have to reapply after a rain. Sprinklers are a solution that would occur only to people who live where there is plenty of water. Here, the radio is forever telling me "Don't waste a drop". I turn the spigot off while I am shaving, except when I need actually to rinse the razor. You might want to contact animal control for a more permanent solution. If the dogs are not ferral yet running loose, animal control should be able to fine the owners. Ferral dogs may be a health issue so animal control should come out and catch them. The Nature Protection Agency is responsible for animals in the wild; the SPCA mostly accepts unwanted pets. Dogs bothering a householder would be a police matter. I did report the matter to the police; they have other, more pressing matters to deal with, and it is hard to fault them for not putting a high priority on this one. That is why I thought to post the problem here. I'll try the cayenne suggestion. Since there is no rain at all here during the summer (from April through November and well into December), that may help for most of the year, at the cost of a large package of ground cayenne pepper. As for the winter -- by then, the magic of Operant Conditioning may have persuaded the dogs that this is not a good place to visit. Thanks for your comments. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
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Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Electric fence. Works like a charm! Cheap, too. Ray |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. What's wrong with motion sprinklers? They're harmless, and will discourage most dogs. Ray |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-rtxHY7zmMDyJ@poblano... On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:16:38 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. Thank you. If someone has an idea involving a repellant substance, I would be happy to hear it. Mark your territory the same way dogs do. Or, use something like old cigar butts soaked in soapy water. Ray |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:48:16 UTC, "Ray" opined:
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-rtxHY7zmMDyJ@poblano... On Tue, 27 Jul 2004 14:16:38 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-HEF9VUHqT4mH@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 23:16:34 UTC, "Anonny Moose" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-bXjMTkgEKyoW@poblano... On Mon, 26 Jul 2004 21:00:49 UTC, "Sunflower" opined: "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-1SRNJ8NlGHzO@poblano... What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? Fence your property. Not an option. Motion sprinklers? C'mon. Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. Thank you. If someone has an idea involving a repellant substance, I would be happy to hear it. Mark your territory the same way dogs do. Or, use something like old cigar butts soaked in soapy water. That's an interesting possibility. While I don't have a source of old cigar butts, I do pee regularly. It never occured to me that dogs would regard a human odor as a no-go territorial marker. Are you sure they would? Thanks!! Ray -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
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Glenna Rose wrote:
writes: Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. Just remember, it's his loss. He apparently has not heard of folks who use them and swear by them. Gee, a pest control with no poisons or anything else to harm animal or human, why would anyone want to try that?! Glenna, Stan explained that he lived in an area where a motion sprinkler would not be feasible in a reply to me. From his posts, he is not in the US and perhaps can't even get a hold of one. I remember seeing a DIY project for one online but don't have the link. At any rate, he is asking for a fiable solution to a problem. As gardeners, I'm sure we can help him with this problem. Try not to take it personally, some folks want a complicated solution when a simple one will suffice. Or maybe he has no outside water faucet. As I understand from a friend who has one of the sprinklers, one of the beauties of them is that they operate for only a few seconds so there is no waste of water. My own observation regarding my feeble attempts to keep the squirrel away from the apricots is that it only takes 2 or 3 seconds which certainly is not a waste of water; more than that is used flushing the toilet once. IIRC, the literature says they use about a cup of water per spray. However, Stan can't use this solution. Given his location, water is likely at a very high premium and simply not a viable solution. I suggested cayenne powder or spray, a cheap and effective solution. A google search may reveal other solutions. |
Diogs where they don't belong
Glenna Rose wrote:
writes: Well what's the deal? You're shooting down ideas without giving any reasons. Figure it out on your own then. Just remember, it's his loss. He apparently has not heard of folks who use them and swear by them. Gee, a pest control with no poisons or anything else to harm animal or human, why would anyone want to try that?! Glenna, Stan explained that he lived in an area where a motion sprinkler would not be feasible in a reply to me. From his posts, he is not in the US and perhaps can't even get a hold of one. I remember seeing a DIY project for one online but don't have the link. At any rate, he is asking for a fiable solution to a problem. As gardeners, I'm sure we can help him with this problem. Try not to take it personally, some folks want a complicated solution when a simple one will suffice. Or maybe he has no outside water faucet. As I understand from a friend who has one of the sprinklers, one of the beauties of them is that they operate for only a few seconds so there is no waste of water. My own observation regarding my feeble attempts to keep the squirrel away from the apricots is that it only takes 2 or 3 seconds which certainly is not a waste of water; more than that is used flushing the toilet once. IIRC, the literature says they use about a cup of water per spray. However, Stan can't use this solution. Given his location, water is likely at a very high premium and simply not a viable solution. I suggested cayenne powder or spray, a cheap and effective solution. A google search may reveal other solutions. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-c7LkUVo9kOtB@poblano... On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:48:16 UTC, "Ray" opined: . While I don't have a source of old cigar butts, I do pee regularly. It never occured to me that dogs would regard a human odor as a no-go territorial marker. Are you sure they would? Highly unlikely. Why don't you tell us the size of your garden and the other factors limiting your choices. Karen |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-c7LkUVo9kOtB@poblano... On Wed, 28 Jul 2004 03:48:16 UTC, "Ray" opined: . While I don't have a source of old cigar butts, I do pee regularly. It never occured to me that dogs would regard a human odor as a no-go territorial marker. Are you sure they would? Highly unlikely. Why don't you tell us the size of your garden and the other factors limiting your choices. Karen |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:46:45 UTC, (Glenna Rose) opined:
writes: Glenna, Stan explained that he lived in an area where a motion sprinkler would not be feasible in a reply to me. From his posts, he is not in the US and perhaps can't even get a hold of one. I remember seeing a DIY project for one online but don't have the link. At any rate, he is asking for a fiable solution to a problem. As gardeners, I'm sure we can help him with this problem. The subsequent posts arrived on my server later which explained he did not have easy accessibility to the sprinklers which made my comments sound extremely unkind. Unfortunately, my comments were likely a result of folks (locally) who don't want to bother with simple solutions (like ladybugs or a spray from the garden hose) when they can go down to the garden shop and get an impressive looking container of poison for a few aphids on one plant. Of course, being a bit on the lazy side, I'd rather use the sprinkler (or a similar option for whatever problem) than to spray/sprinkle anything which has to be repeated. Perhaps this partially comes from trying to break my tomcat from spraying in the house which he started at the age of three (neutered at six months). Among other solutions was one to spray a certain solution daily everywhere suspected of having been sprayed by him. BTW, none of the recommended things worked leaving the only logical thing to keep him mostly outside and allow him inside in the utility room or bathroom only (or actually being held). His sister and he are important to me, their affection and un-intrusive companionship being part of the my recovery from my son's death, so having him put down was not an option. Giving him to someone else might result in him being abandoned by his new owner as was a tomcat that I cared for at my previous house. Trust me, I have no such affection or attachment the apricot-destroying squirrel! Unfortunately I do not seem to get all the posts on my server, evidenced by responses to which the original post never appeared. Therefore, I owe Stan an apology for my curt reply Stan, I offer you my apology for my seemingly unkind remarks which I hope you feel generous enough to accept. I can be rather curt at times but certainly did not mean to be unkind or mean-spirited towards you. This was a time I should have waited and re-read my reply in the morning rather than send it. Glenna Glenna... Please put it out of your mind. What our unfortunate exchange shows is only the difficulty of communicating at a distance, through a written medium that gives the illusion of informal chat, but filters out facial expressions, tones of voice, and knowledge of each other's history. You do not owe me an apology. I hope I don't owe you one, but only you can know. Your news reading problem is easily solved. My ISP, like yours apparently, attaches little importance to Usenet, simply because most of his subscribers don't use newsgroups. I found that when I used his news server, articles were often much delayed, some articles never appeared, and some that I wrote were not propogated to the rest of the world. There are free news servers in the world that you can use that never miss a trick, and on which delays are minimal. I use, and heartily recommend, It is operated by the Free University of Berlin, and has a website at http://news.cis.dfn.de The website is all in German, but there is an email address to which you can write (even in English) with questions about connecting. Once you connect, you won't be troubled with language. You have to register, but that is free. The only conditions are that you have to post articles ONLY with a valid From address, and that you do not post binary files. I have never been dissatisfied with their service. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
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Stan...I have worked at a garden center for the past 2 years and a product
called "Liquid Fence" seems to help most people with the problem of dogs, cats, rabbits and deer. A bottle isn't very expensive...much less than a motion sprinkler and definitly not as embarassing as getting cought peeing in your back yard.I'm sure if you can't find this product in your local garden store you can do a search for it on the web. Make sure you pick the one for dogs and cats...it has a synthetic urine. Hope this helps.....Melissa in Pa "Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-Lp8CxF6b3Non@poblano... On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:46:45 UTC, (Glenna Rose) opined: writes: Glenna, Stan explained that he lived in an area where a motion sprinkler would not be feasible in a reply to me. From his posts, he is not in the US and perhaps can't even get a hold of one. I remember seeing a DIY project for one online but don't have the link. At any rate, he is asking for a fiable solution to a problem. As gardeners, I'm sure we can help him with this problem. The subsequent posts arrived on my server later which explained he did not have easy accessibility to the sprinklers which made my comments sound extremely unkind. Unfortunately, my comments were likely a result of folks (locally) who don't want to bother with simple solutions (like ladybugs or a spray from the garden hose) when they can go down to the garden shop and get an impressive looking container of poison for a few aphids on one plant. Of course, being a bit on the lazy side, I'd rather use the sprinkler (or a similar option for whatever problem) than to spray/sprinkle anything which has to be repeated. Perhaps this partially comes from trying to break my tomcat from spraying in the house which he started at the age of three (neutered at six months). Among other solutions was one to spray a certain solution daily everywhere suspected of having been sprayed by him. BTW, none of the recommended things worked leaving the only logical thing to keep him mostly outside and allow him inside in the utility room or bathroom only (or actually being held). His sister and he are important to me, their affection and un-intrusive companionship being part of the my recovery from my son's death, so having him put down was not an option. Giving him to someone else might result in him being abandoned by his new owner as was a tomcat that I cared for at my previous house. Trust me, I have no such affection or attachment the apricot-destroying squirrel! Unfortunately I do not seem to get all the posts on my server, evidenced by responses to which the original post never appeared. Therefore, I owe Stan an apology for my curt reply Stan, I offer you my apology for my seemingly unkind remarks which I hope you feel generous enough to accept. I can be rather curt at times but certainly did not mean to be unkind or mean-spirited towards you. This was a time I should have waited and re-read my reply in the morning rather than send it. Glenna Glenna... Please put it out of your mind. What our unfortunate exchange shows is only the difficulty of communicating at a distance, through a written medium that gives the illusion of informal chat, but filters out facial expressions, tones of voice, and knowledge of each other's history. You do not owe me an apology. I hope I don't owe you one, but only you can know. Your news reading problem is easily solved. My ISP, like yours apparently, attaches little importance to Usenet, simply because most of his subscribers don't use newsgroups. I found that when I used his news server, articles were often much delayed, some articles never appeared, and some that I wrote were not propogated to the rest of the world. There are free news servers in the world that you can use that never miss a trick, and on which delays are minimal. I use, and heartily recommend, It is operated by the Free University of Berlin, and has a website at http://news.cis.dfn.de The website is all in German, but there is an email address to which you can write (even in English) with questions about connecting. Once you connect, you won't be troubled with language. You have to register, but that is free. The only conditions are that you have to post articles ONLY with a valid From address, and that you do not post binary files. I have never been dissatisfied with their service. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
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On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 20:45:55 UTC, "Dave and Miss"
opined: Stan...I have worked at a garden center for the past 2 years and a product called "Liquid Fence" seems to help most people with the problem of dogs, cats, rabbits and deer. A bottle isn't very expensive...much less than a motion sprinkler and definitly not as embarassing as getting cought peeing I'm shameless. in your back yard.I'm sure if you can't find this product in your local garden store you can do a search for it on the web. Make sure you pick the one for dogs and cats...it has a synthetic urine. Hope this helps.....Melissa in Pa Again, it isn't likely to be available in this country, importing it is not feasible, and carrying it in by luggage on an airplane next time I return from abroad is not recommended. Thanks to everyone for efforts to be helpful; I think it's time to give up the search on this group. Stan Goodman" wrote in message news:uViCr8LlbtmJ-pn2-Lp8CxF6b3Non@poblano... On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:46:45 UTC, (Glenna Rose) opined: writes: Glenna, Stan explained that he lived in an area where a motion sprinkler would not be feasible in a reply to me. From his posts, he is not in the US and perhaps can't even get a hold of one. I remember seeing a DIY project for one online but don't have the link. At any rate, he is asking for a fiable solution to a problem. As gardeners, I'm sure we can help him with this problem. The subsequent posts arrived on my server later which explained he did not have easy accessibility to the sprinklers which made my comments sound extremely unkind. Unfortunately, my comments were likely a result of folks (locally) who don't want to bother with simple solutions (like ladybugs or a spray from the garden hose) when they can go down to the garden shop and get an impressive looking container of poison for a few aphids on one plant. Of course, being a bit on the lazy side, I'd rather use the sprinkler (or a similar option for whatever problem) than to spray/sprinkle anything which has to be repeated. Perhaps this partially comes from trying to break my tomcat from spraying in the house which he started at the age of three (neutered at six months). Among other solutions was one to spray a certain solution daily everywhere suspected of having been sprayed by him. BTW, none of the recommended things worked leaving the only logical thing to keep him mostly outside and allow him inside in the utility room or bathroom only (or actually being held). His sister and he are important to me, their affection and un-intrusive companionship being part of the my recovery from my son's death, so having him put down was not an option. Giving him to someone else might result in him being abandoned by his new owner as was a tomcat that I cared for at my previous house. Trust me, I have no such affection or attachment the apricot-destroying squirrel! Unfortunately I do not seem to get all the posts on my server, evidenced by responses to which the original post never appeared. Therefore, I owe Stan an apology for my curt reply Stan, I offer you my apology for my seemingly unkind remarks which I hope you feel generous enough to accept. I can be rather curt at times but certainly did not mean to be unkind or mean-spirited towards you. This was a time I should have waited and re-read my reply in the morning rather than send it. Glenna Glenna... Please put it out of your mind. What our unfortunate exchange shows is only the difficulty of communicating at a distance, through a written medium that gives the illusion of informal chat, but filters out facial expressions, tones of voice, and knowledge of each other's history. You do not owe me an apology. I hope I don't owe you one, but only you can know. Your news reading problem is easily solved. My ISP, like yours apparently, attaches little importance to Usenet, simply because most of his subscribers don't use newsgroups. I found that when I used his news server, articles were often much delayed, some articles never appeared, and some that I wrote were not propogated to the rest of the world. There are free news servers in the world that you can use that never miss a trick, and on which delays are minimal. I use, and heartily recommend, It is operated by the Free University of Berlin, and has a website at http://news.cis.dfn.de The website is all in German, but there is an email address to which you can write (even in English) with questions about connecting. Once you connect, you won't be troubled with language. You have to register, but that is free. The only conditions are that you have to post articles ONLY with a valid From address, and that you do not post binary files. I have never been dissatisfied with their service. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's
worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 26 Jul 2004 21:00:48 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's
worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 26 Jul 2004 21:00:48 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:57:11 UTC, opined:
in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? How will the Candid Camera crew know when to come out and film this? Thank you for your time. From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 26 Jul 2004 21:00:48 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong What can I do to discourage feral, and not so feral, dogs from coming into my property both in daylight and at night, crapping here and there as the spirit moves them (no pun intended), and making threatening noises at me? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" writes:
I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? While it may be an old wives' tale, something like this is followed in other parts of the world: in Hawaii, people sometimes put out large glass bottles of water (gallon jugs or so) around their yard to "discourage" dogs and cats from going to the bathroom there. -- Darryl Okahata DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. |
"Stan Goodman" writes:
I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? While it may be an old wives' tale, something like this is followed in other parts of the world: in Hawaii, people sometimes put out large glass bottles of water (gallon jugs or so) around their yard to "discourage" dogs and cats from going to the bathroom there. -- Darryl Okahata DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 16:44:04 UTC, Darryl Okahata
opined: "Stan Goodman" writes: I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? While it may be an old wives' tale, something like this is followed in other parts of the world: in Hawaii, people sometimes put out large glass bottles of water (gallon jugs or so) around their yard to "discourage" dogs and cats from going to the bathroom there. I have no doubt of it, there is no limit to the foolishness of ignorant people. I have seen apparently rational people swear that they are getting energy out of a crystal hanging around their neck -- not much different from expecting water bottles to influence the bladder and bowel discharges of cats and dogs. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
Diogs where they don't belong
"Stan Goodman" writes:
While it may be an old wives' tale, something like this is followed in other parts of the world: in Hawaii, people sometimes put out large glass bottles of water (gallon jugs or so) around their yard to "discourage" dogs and cats from going to the bathroom there. I have no doubt of it, there is no limit to the foolishness of ignorant people. I have seen apparently rational people swear that they are getting energy out of a crystal hanging around their neck -- not much different from expecting water bottles to influence the bladder and bowel discharges of cats and dogs. Well, I think the "theory" is that dogs and cats are more reluctant to go to the bathroom around water. I have no idea how true this is. -- Darryl Okahata DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. |
"Stan Goodman" writes:
While it may be an old wives' tale, something like this is followed in other parts of the world: in Hawaii, people sometimes put out large glass bottles of water (gallon jugs or so) around their yard to "discourage" dogs and cats from going to the bathroom there. I have no doubt of it, there is no limit to the foolishness of ignorant people. I have seen apparently rational people swear that they are getting energy out of a crystal hanging around their neck -- not much different from expecting water bottles to influence the bladder and bowel discharges of cats and dogs. Well, I think the "theory" is that dogs and cats are more reluctant to go to the bathroom around water. I have no idea how true this is. -- Darryl Okahata DISCLAIMER: this message is the author's personal opinion and does not constitute the support, opinion, or policy of Agilent Technologies, or of the little green men that have been following him all day. |
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 14:44:26 UTC, Darryl Okahata
opined: "Stan Goodman" writes: While it may be an old wives' tale, something like this is followed in other parts of the world: in Hawaii, people sometimes put out large glass bottles of water (gallon jugs or so) around their yard to "discourage" dogs and cats from going to the bathroom there. I have no doubt of it, there is no limit to the foolishness of ignorant people. I have seen apparently rational people swear that they are getting energy out of a crystal hanging around their neck -- not much different from expecting water bottles to influence the bladder and bowel discharges of cats and dogs. Well, I think the "theory" is that dogs and cats are more reluctant to go to the bathroom around water. I have no idea how true this is. That may well be true; it makes evolutionary sense for clients of the waterhole to avoid fouling it. On the other hand, it isn't clear that dogs and other non-human mammals can perceive that a glass bottle has water inside. Or, if they could, that the column of water it contains is equivalent to a pool from which water can be lapped up. -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
you're welcome for my time because i offered it in good faith. and hey!!
you know what? i used my REAL email address without any b.s. pumped into it. so don't get funky. why don't YOU spend some time and look it up!!!!!! From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 9 Aug 2004 21:15:08 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:57:11 UTC, opined: in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? |
Diogs where they don't belong
you're welcome for my time because i offered it in good faith. and hey!!
you know what? i used my REAL email address without any b.s. pumped into it. so don't get funky. why don't YOU spend some time and look it up!!!!!! From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 9 Aug 2004 21:15:08 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:57:11 UTC, opined: in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? |
Diogs where they don't belong
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:43:45 UTC, opined:
you're welcome for my time because i offered it in good faith. and hey!! you know what? i used my REAL email address without any b.s. pumped into it. so don't get funky. why don't YOU spend some time and look it up!!!!!! I can't apologize for my doubt or for my bemused reaction, which seemed pretty well to match the nature of the suggestion. I have no idea what offends you about my email address, which is a REAL and VALID address (no bullshit, if that's what you mean by "b.s."), disguised from harvesting bots, yet readable by humans. The fact that you don't do something like that may explain the mountain of spam/junk mail you find in your inbox (I get none at all). There is no particular virtue in making yourself and your ISP the target of malicious spammers and virus distributors -- especially for Outlook users like yourself. I am not sure what "funky" can mean in this context; I'm sure I could look that up, if it seemed worthwhile. From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 9 Aug 2004 21:15:08 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:57:11 UTC, opined: in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 00:43:45 UTC, opined:
you're welcome for my time because i offered it in good faith. and hey!! you know what? i used my REAL email address without any b.s. pumped into it. so don't get funky. why don't YOU spend some time and look it up!!!!!! I can't apologize for my doubt or for my bemused reaction, which seemed pretty well to match the nature of the suggestion. I have no idea what offends you about my email address, which is a REAL and VALID address (no bullshit, if that's what you mean by "b.s."), disguised from harvesting bots, yet readable by humans. The fact that you don't do something like that may explain the mountain of spam/junk mail you find in your inbox (I get none at all). There is no particular virtue in making yourself and your ISP the target of malicious spammers and virus distributors -- especially for Outlook users like yourself. I am not sure what "funky" can mean in this context; I'm sure I could look that up, if it seemed worthwhile. From: "Stan Goodman" Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible Date: 9 Aug 2004 21:15:08 GMT Subject: Diogs where they don't belong On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 18:57:11 UTC, opined: in australia, and this might only work in australia...i don't know...it's worth a try, though. in australia (as i was saying) they fill up those 2-litre plastic pop bottles with plain old water and they place these bottles on the parking strips and the dogs will not pass these bottles to get to the other side of the sidewalk!!!!!!!!! like i said...try it. I don't have "parking strips", whatever they may be, and I am not near a sidewalk. But I understand you to be telling me to put out some water-filled two-liter bottles along the property line, and to expect that they will prevent the passage of dogs. Have I got it right? I do this when the moon is full, right? I don't need any holly stakes or anything like that? -- Stan Goodman Qiryat Tiv'on Israel Saddam is gone. Ceterum, censeo Arafat esse delendam. To send me email, please replace the CAPITAL_LETTERS with "sig". Please do not send me HTML-formatted messages.Please do not send me attachments without telling me beforehand. |
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