On Tue, 3 Aug 2004 22:52:00 -0700, "Anna" wrote in
rec.gardens.edible:

They are about 1/3 to 1/2 inch long and have wings. When they fly, it looks
more like fluttering rather than flying like other flying insects.

Possibly Tortoise Beetles. They eat leaves. Some sketches at

http://www.suite101.com/article.cfm/1882/37130
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They were feeding on just one tomato plant which was strange as I have 36
plants in all. The were nibbling on the leaves and blossoms. Didn't bother
the fruit at all.
I still see a few around after spraying once. They are no longer on the
tomato plant.
Anna

"The Cook" wrote in message
...
| "Anna" wrote:
|
| They are about 1/3 to 1/2 inch long and have wings. When they fly, it
looks
| more like fluttering rather than flying like other flying insects. They
| don't hop. They hang onto the plant rather strongly. Shaking the plant
| doesn't cause them to turn loose. They are black all over with no other
| coloring. Hard and shiny.
| As I said they are on the on tomato plant.
| Anna
|
|
| What kind of damage are they doing to the tomatoes. Several of the
| beetles I found the Rodel insect book were beneficial, ie ate other
| insects.
|
| --
| Susan N.
|
| There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary
and those who do not.

They were feeding on just one tomato plant which was strange as I have 36
plants in all. The were nibbling on the leaves and blossoms. Didn't bother
the fruit at all.
I still see a few around after spraying once. They are no longer on the
tomato plant.
Anna

"The Cook" wrote in message
...
| "Anna" wrote:
|
| They are about 1/3 to 1/2 inch long and have wings. When they fly, it
looks
| more like fluttering rather than flying like other flying insects. They
| don't hop. They hang onto the plant rather strongly. Shaking the plant
| doesn't cause them to turn loose. They are black all over with no other
| coloring. Hard and shiny.
| As I said they are on the on tomato plant.
| Anna
|
|
| What kind of damage are they doing to the tomatoes. Several of the
| beetles I found the Rodel insect book were beneficial, ie ate other
| insects.
|
| --
| Susan N.
|
| There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary
and those who do not.

"Guy Bradley" wrote in message
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|
| "Anna" wrote in message
| ...
| I have posted a couple of pictures on the web of these bugs.
| http://community.webshots.com/photo/...70887500jqBNuV
| | I just discovered a black beetle type bug on my tomato leaves.
| The have
| | attacked my cherry tomatoes and none other. I noticed them on
| dandelions
| | before but not in my garden. What can they be and how can I get
| rid of
| | them?
|
| Judging from the picture, my guess is click beetles. The beetles in
| your picture have the right shape and color for click beetles. The key
| for me is the way the head angles from the thorax. Click beetles can
| fly, but in particular they sort of jump when disturbed, with a
| clicking sound (hence the name). I've never known them to particularly
| attracted to tomatoes, but they may be in search of moisture.
|
| Since these are eating your tomatoes, a stomach poison, such as
| Rotenone, would be a good way to kill them. However, you probably
| don't want to be spraying poisons on your tomatoes, although Rotenone
| is comparatively benign.
|
| Guy Bradley
| Chesterfield MO
| zone 6
|
|
It looks very similar to the click beetle, only it's legs are black like the
body. I noticed that they are constantly extending their body so that it is
longer than the wings and the hard cover over the wings. Does that make
since to anyone?

"Guy Bradley" wrote in message
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|
| "Anna" wrote in message
| ...
| I have posted a couple of pictures on the web of these bugs.
| http://community.webshots.com/photo/...70887500jqBNuV
| | I just discovered a black beetle type bug on my tomato leaves.
| The have
| | attacked my cherry tomatoes and none other. I noticed them on
| dandelions
| | before but not in my garden. What can they be and how can I get
| rid of
| | them?
|
| Judging from the picture, my guess is click beetles. The beetles in
| your picture have the right shape and color for click beetles. The key
| for me is the way the head angles from the thorax. Click beetles can
| fly, but in particular they sort of jump when disturbed, with a
| clicking sound (hence the name). I've never known them to particularly
| attracted to tomatoes, but they may be in search of moisture.
|
| Since these are eating your tomatoes, a stomach poison, such as
| Rotenone, would be a good way to kill them. However, you probably
| don't want to be spraying poisons on your tomatoes, although Rotenone
| is comparatively benign.
|
| Guy Bradley
| Chesterfield MO
| zone 6
|
|
It looks very similar to the click beetle, only it's legs are black like the
body. I noticed that they are constantly extending their body so that it is
longer than the wings and the hard cover over the wings. Does that make
since to anyone?

Anna said:

They were feeding on just one tomato plant which was strange as I have 36
plants in all. The were nibbling on the leaves and blossoms. Didn't bother
the fruit at all.
I still see a few around after spraying once. They are no longer on the
tomato plant.

Other than flea beetles, the only beetles I can think of that would feed on
tomato *leaves* are various blister beetles and potato beetles. We can rule
out one of the potato beetles because they are obviously colored in yellows
and rust or brown.

Blister beetle come in various sizes and colors. They give the appearance
of long 'necks' and often the wing covers (elytra) do not completely cover the
abdomen.

--
Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)

Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
(attributed to Don Marti)

"Pat Kiewicz" wrote in message
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| Anna said:
|
| They were feeding on just one tomato plant which was strange as I have 36
| plants in all. The were nibbling on the leaves and blossoms. Didn't
bother
| the fruit at all.
| I still see a few around after spraying once. They are no longer on the
| tomato plant.
|
| Other than flea beetles, the only beetles I can think of that would feed
on
| tomato *leaves* are various blister beetles and potato beetles. We can
rule
| out one of the potato beetles because they are obviously colored in
yellows
| and rust or brown.
|
| Blister beetle come in various sizes and colors. They give the appearance
| of long 'necks' and often the wing covers (elytra) do not completely cover
the
| abdomen.
|
| --
| Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)
|
| Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
| (attributed to Don Marti)
|
This could very well be what it is, although the ones that I saw were all
very shiny black. I found a picture that looks just like it except for the
color.
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/imagegal/...argblistb.html
Thanks
Anna

Hi Anna,
I'd vote for the blister beetle as well, they come in all colors as well.

susan

Anna wrote:

"Pat Kiewicz" wrote in message
...
| Anna said:
|
| They were feeding on just one tomato plant which was strange as I have 36
| plants in all. The were nibbling on the leaves and blossoms. Didn't
bother
| the fruit at all.
| I still see a few around after spraying once. They are no longer on the
| tomato plant.
|
| Other than flea beetles, the only beetles I can think of that would feed
on
| tomato *leaves* are various blister beetles and potato beetles. We can
rule
| out one of the potato beetles because they are obviously colored in
yellows
| and rust or brown.
|
| Blister beetle come in various sizes and colors. They give the appearance
| of long 'necks' and often the wing covers (elytra) do not completely cover
the
| abdomen.
|
| --
| Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)
|
| Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
| (attributed to Don Marti)
|
This could very well be what it is, although the ones that I saw were all
very shiny black. I found a picture that looks just like it except for the
color.
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/imagegal/...argblistb.html
Thanks
Anna

Hi Anna,
I'd vote for the blister beetle as well, they come in all colors as well.

susan

Anna wrote:

"Pat Kiewicz" wrote in message
...
| Anna said:
|
| They were feeding on just one tomato plant which was strange as I have 36
| plants in all. The were nibbling on the leaves and blossoms. Didn't
bother
| the fruit at all.
| I still see a few around after spraying once. They are no longer on the
| tomato plant.
|
| Other than flea beetles, the only beetles I can think of that would feed
on
| tomato *leaves* are various blister beetles and potato beetles. We can
rule
| out one of the potato beetles because they are obviously colored in
yellows
| and rust or brown.
|
| Blister beetle come in various sizes and colors. They give the appearance
| of long 'necks' and often the wing covers (elytra) do not completely cover
the
| abdomen.
|
| --
| Pat in Plymouth MI ('someplace.net' is comcast)
|
| Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced.
| (attributed to Don Marti)
|
This could very well be what it is, although the ones that I saw were all
very shiny black. I found a picture that looks just like it except for the
color.
http://www.ent.iastate.edu/imagegal/...argblistb.html
Thanks
Anna

anna!!!!! BEWARE!!! that spray made from "chrysanthemums" is NOT!! well,
it's made from pyrethrum daisies which could be thought of as a kind of mum,
but REMEMBER THIS!!!!!!! even though the spray is made from flowers, it is
still VERY POISONOUS!!!!!!! it can do terrible damage to pets, children,
AND ADULTS!!!
PLEASE!! check more into this before using it!

From: "Anna"
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Reply-To: "Anna" akannacatyahoo.com
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 2004 10:48:22 -0700
Subject: Beetles on my tomato Plants

No it doesn't jump. It is about a half inch long, has wings that don't quite
cover the lower end of it's body. It's head is a separate segment like an
ant. It can fly when disturbed. They leave little sand size droppings on
the leaf where they are eating. The nursery gave me some spray made from
chrysanthemums that kills them. I am not getting a picture clear enough to
post. Sorry
Anna
"Not the Karl Orff" wrote in message
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| In article ,
| "Anna" wrote:
|
| I just discovered a black beetle type bug on my tomato leaves. The have
| attacked my cherry tomatoes and none other. I noticed them on
dandelions
| before but not in my garden. What can they be and how can I get rid of
| them?
| I live in southern Oregon if that is of help.
|
| is the beetle about 2mm in length? may Jump away very fast?
| Skelentonises the leaves? If so, it's a flea beetle. Infested my
| tomatoes too. Best seems to be cutting away all the lower leaves and
| those not bearing flowers. I spend time squashig them daily. Not sure
| if I will win the battle.
|
| Some book says they come out in hot dry weater.
|
| http://www.agsolutions.ca/pub/east/r.../gen.cgi/flea_
| beetle
|
| http://www.attra.org/attra-pub/fleabeetle.html

OH MY GOD!!!!!!! is there NO END to all the nasty beetles on the face of the
earth?!??!?!? in my reckonings, the ONLY "good" beetle is the ladybird, of
course, and the lightning beetle (or lightning bug).

there are just some years i cannot take it anymore and i determine to move
to a big city where there are no bugs except politicians; but then, i look
outside at the beauty and i realise i just can't do it (sniff).

From: Steve
Newsgroups: rec.gardens.edible
Date: Tue, 03 Aug 2004 23:16:34 -0400
Subject: Beetles on my tomato Plants



TQ wrote:

........................
Perhaps you have cadelles?

http://www.forestryimages.org/browse...imgnum=1234043
http://www.forestryimages.org/browse...imgnum=1236002


Close, but that doesn't look quite the same as the pictures Anna
posted. cadelles are about 1/3 inch long. Anna, are your bugs that big?
Cadelle larvae are a pest of grain and similar food products. I
admit, I have no idea what the adult beetles eat.

Steve