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Old 27-09-2005, 02:40 AM
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I have a 75 gallon planted tank and it is cycling. I have several
pieces of bogwood in the tank and they do cause a yellow tinge to the
water. I have also developed cloudy water in the tank and I can't tell
if it is an algae bloom due to cycling or I may feed too much and it
could be white cloudiness I am seeing. It is hard to tell when the
water is yellow tinged. When I do a water change, I see a white cloudy
tinge to the water so I think I am overfeeding and have cut back to
feeding 1 every 2 days.

Anyway since I started this about 2 days ago, I saw that it appeared the
tank was clearing up. I shut down lighting for about 2 hrs. during
midday to retard any algae growth. When the lights come back on 2 hrs.
later, I see that the water has really clouded up again while the lights
were off. This happens when the lights are OFF! After they are on for
awhile, it clears up somewhat again but is still pretty cloudy. Anyone
have an answer to that one?

Also when I put in the bogwood, (2 pieces), it created a cave underneath
for my clown loaches and whatever else wants to hide under them. There
is probably a lot of waste buildup under the bogwood also because when I
do my water changes, I can't get underneath to clean out. My tank is
pretty well planted in the back also so that when I remove the wood, I
have a heck of a time putting the wood back inside. Is this a problem?
I try to clean up as much waste as I can with my Python water changer.
I took off the big end and just use the hose as I can get to more of the
waste this way and it increases the suction pressure with the smaller
opening of the hose.

Any advice would be appreciated. My ammonia tonight is 0; my nitrites
are 0; and my nitrates are 5. It appears the tank cycled! That is why
it is trying to clear up then. Would I be on the right track here?

Dan
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Old 27-09-2005, 09:53 AM
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Gateway_User wrote:

I have a 75 gallon planted tank and it is cycling. I have several
pieces of bogwood in the tank and they do cause a yellow tinge to the
water. I have also developed cloudy water in the tank and I can't tell
if it is an algae bloom due to cycling or I may feed too much and it
could be white cloudiness I am seeing. It is hard to tell when the
water is yellow tinged. When I do a water change, I see a white cloudy
tinge to the water so I think I am overfeeding and have cut back to
feeding 1 every 2 days.

Anyway since I started this about 2 days ago, I saw that it appeared the
tank was clearing up. I shut down lighting for about 2 hrs. during
midday to retard any algae growth. When the lights come back on 2 hrs.
later, I see that the water has really clouded up again while the lights
were off. This happens when the lights are OFF! After they are on for
awhile, it clears up somewhat again but is still pretty cloudy. Anyone
have an answer to that one?

Also when I put in the bogwood, (2 pieces), it created a cave underneath
for my clown loaches and whatever else wants to hide under them. There
is probably a lot of waste buildup under the bogwood also because when I
do my water changes, I can't get underneath to clean out. My tank is
pretty well planted in the back also so that when I remove the wood, I
have a heck of a time putting the wood back inside. Is this a problem?
I try to clean up as much waste as I can with my Python water changer.
I took off the big end and just use the hose as I can get to more of the
waste this way and it increases the suction pressure with the smaller
opening of the hose.

Any advice would be appreciated. My ammonia tonight is 0; my nitrites
are 0; and my nitrates are 5. It appears the tank cycled! That is why
it is trying to clear up then. Would I be on the right track here?

Dan


If you are getting those test results then the tank is cycled so that is
good. I had a similar problem with my tank and have just lost loads of
fish, after the tank has been established for a long time (like mine is)
cloudy water is normally due to bacterial blooms, if the fish are
gasping at the surface you have problems but yor tank sounds alright to
me. Not sure on the lights thing, the tank will look clearer when the
lights are off as to when they are on.

Regarding the bogwood I would get a small piece of tubing and try and
suck the detrius out of it in that way, removing the bogwood all the
time is going to stress the fish and stir up the water causing more
cloudiness. I have shrimp in my tank also so if I take any bogwood out
invariable there's shrimp hanging on the bottom of weighing up if they
can make a death defying leap onto my dining table!
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Old 03-10-2005, 11:57 PM
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I've had lots of cloudy water problems in the past. I'm not sure what
fixed it though. I had an under gravel filter at one point, and I
think that helped it some what. Although I have removed it as my
loached kept finding their way under it and I could never find them!

About the waste buildup... I usually don't clean up waste that builds
up under anything, as I don't want to move around too much in the tank
when I clean it. I find I don't need to clean it up though. I have
corys and loaches in my tank, along with some other bottom feeders. I
think that these fish help with the waste problem. I think some large
snails would also take care of any waste laying around.

I also think that an underground filter would help get rid of the waste
because it will suck the waste into the bottom where it won't be
visible and will also help create beneficial bacteria that will help
keep the water clear.

Hope this helps!

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Old 04-10-2005, 05:21 AM
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"PokoFish" wrote in message
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I've had lots of cloudy water problems in the past. I'm not sure what
fixed it though. I had an under gravel filter at one point, and I
think that helped it some what. Although I have removed it as my
loached kept finding their way under it and I could never find them!


I experienced that when I was 12. My one kuhli loach would go under the
undergravel filter plate and I only saw the khuli loach a year afterward
when I was rounding up fish to take to the pet store. Boy had it grown!



About the waste buildup... I usually don't clean up waste that builds
up under anything, as I don't want to move around too much in the tank
when I clean it. I find I don't need to clean it up though. I have
corys and loaches in my tank, along with some other bottom feeders. I
think that these fish help with the waste problem. I think some large
snails would also take care of any waste laying around.

I also think that an underground filter would help get rid of the waste
because it will suck the waste into the bottom where it won't be
visible and will also help create beneficial bacteria that will help
keep the water clear.


Undergravel filters still are respectable filters, it does good biological
filtration and mechanical filtration can always be added later (hang on back
power filter), I suspect back when aquarium technology was very primitive
and even until today undergravel filters did a great job at biological
filtration and kept the water clear because of the biological filtration.
Good luck and later!



Hope this helps!



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