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hair algea
I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to
broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day |
hair algea
"John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day I have a similar problem, I'm treating mine by doing bleach dips to the plants, when it gets outta hand, and reducing tyhe phospates in the tank. I have also added a CO2 injector. The growth has slowed, so hopefully its the start of getting rid of the stuff :) bear in mind some plants don't like the bleach and it kills them, I use less than 5% dip, to be sure, I've lost a lot of plants to the 5% bleach dips. §tudz |
hair algea
"John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. |
hair algea
"Bill Stock" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I think my CO2 is at about 1 bbl/2sec or so, not much. Water in my area is fairly soft, from the tap the kh is 10. I add some peat to soften it more for my discus. I wonder if that algea got in from the peat I'm using?? Its the stuff from Fluval? I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. |
hair algea
"§tudz" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day I have a similar problem, I'm treating mine by doing bleach dips to the plants, when it gets outta hand, and reducing tyhe phospates in the tank. I have also added a CO2 injector. The growth has slowed, so hopefully its the start of getting rid of the stuff :) bear in mind some plants don't like the bleach and it kills them, I use less than 5% dip, to be sure, I've lost a lot of plants to the 5% bleach dips. §tudz So you pull the plants out of the tank? and then dip them in the diluted bleach soln then re-plant them? |
hair algea
"John H." wrote in message ... "Bill Stock" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I think my CO2 is at about 1 bbl/2sec or so, not much. Water in my area is fairly soft, from the tap the kh is 10. I add some peat to soften it more for my discus. I wonder if that algea got in from the peat I'm using?? Its the stuff from Fluval? Go here to check your CO2 levels (ppm). http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm My Hair Algae came in on some pond plants, before I changed my tank to Tropicals. I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. |
hair algea
"John H." wrote in message ... "§tudz" wrote in message ... "John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day I have a similar problem, I'm treating mine by doing bleach dips to the plants, when it gets outta hand, and reducing tyhe phospates in the tank. I have also added a CO2 injector. The growth has slowed, so hopefully its the start of getting rid of the stuff :) bear in mind some plants don't like the bleach and it kills them, I use less than 5% dip, to be sure, I've lost a lot of plants to the 5% bleach dips. §tudz So you pull the plants out of the tank? and then dip them in the diluted bleach soln then re-plant them? Don't forget to rinse and treat them with a heavy dose of dechlorinator before returning them to the tank. I recently dipped my BBA covered Anubias in some 5% bleach. Did a great job. |
hair algea
"Bill Stock" wrote in message ... My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. Platies are also noted to eat hair algae, as well as a similar LB but Im bot sure of its name, it looks like a platy, BUT is a rare find. I have one baby platy in the Tank with the problem and he eats the HA and BA. §tudz |
hair algea
"§tudz" wrote in message ... "Bill Stock" wrote in message ... My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. Platies are also noted to eat hair algae, as well as a similar LB but Im bot sure of its name, it looks like a platy, BUT is a rare find. I have one baby platy in the Tank with the problem and he eats the HA and BA. §tudz Thanks, I wonder how they would do outdoors in the pond? It's a hair algae bonanza. |
hair algea
"Bill Stock" wrote in message ... "§tudz" wrote in message ... "Bill Stock" wrote in message ... My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. Platies are also noted to eat hair algae, as well as a similar LB but Im bot sure of its name, it looks like a platy, BUT is a rare find. I have one baby platy in the Tank with the problem and he eats the HA and BA. §tudz Thanks, I wonder how they would do outdoors in the pond? It's a hair algae bonanza. =========================== There's some hair algae in one of my platy tanks and they don't touch it. :-( -- Koi-Lo.... frugal ponding since 1995... Aquariums since 1952 My Pond & Aquarium Pages: NEW PAGE: Aquariums: http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastada...ium-Page4.html http://bellsouthpwp.net/s/h/shastadaisy ~~~ }((((o ~~~ }{{{{o ~~~ }(((((o |
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§tudz wrote: "Bill Stock" wrote in message ... My setup is very similar to yours, except I have more light. I had a bout with hair algae too, before I added more plants. I just kept pulling it off and I finally got rid of it. Then I got BGA (a real scourge) and now some minor BBA. Do you add PO4 or traces? How much CO2 do you use, quite a bit based on your PH and KH? I've seen Florida Flag fish recommended for HA or a blackout if it's really bad. Platies are also noted to eat hair algae, as well as a similar LB but Im bot sure of its name, it looks like a platy Are you thinking of mollies? They eat some algae if I am not mistaken. Good luck and later! , BUT is a rare find. I have one baby platy in the Tank with the problem and he eats the HA and BA. §tudz -- You can find my public key at https://keyserver1.pgp.com |
hair algea
"Daniel Morrow" wrote in message ... Are you thinking of mollies? They eat some algae if I am not mistaken. Good luck and later! , BUT is a rare find. No, not Mollies, I'll have to try and remember, they look almost identical to Platies (in the wild form) they are grey in colour, I'm not sure they have the fin adapation that most male LBs have. I could be talking a load of rubbish with that last statement, lol, my memory fails me, too many hours working. §tudz |
hair algea
"John H." wrote in message . .. I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? thanks John 55gal pH 6.5-7 kH 8-9 eheim canister filter CO2 no2 & nh4 nil no3 20 96 watts light X 12 hr/day This is probably an insane idea but I'm going to ask you guys anyway... I was wondering, my hair algae problem is so bad, if I relocate my fish and disconnect my pumps, could I just add enough bleach directly to the tank to make 5%, then add declorinator to the tank to neutralize the bleach? Is there anything else in bleach that would be toxic to either the fish or the beneficial bacteria other that clorine? I suppose it would kill all the bacteria in the water and gravel... however after neutralizing I still have the bacteria in the pumps? just a thought? |
hair algea
"John H." wrote in message ... This is probably an insane idea but I'm going to ask you guys anyway... I was wondering, my hair algae problem is so bad, if I relocate my fish and disconnect my pumps, could I just add enough bleach directly to the tank to make 5%, then add declorinator to the tank to neutralize the bleach? Is there anything else in bleach that would be toxic to either the fish or the beneficial bacteria other that clorine? I suppose it would kill all the bacteria in the water and gravel... however after neutralizing I still have the bacteria in the pumps? just a thought? That would indeed kill all the algae, also your bacteria and possibly your plants, if you add too much. you would need to empty the tank after doing it, rinse with water and declorinator, then let the tank cycle again, but yeah in theory it would work. but remember it would be a new tank setup situation. §tudz |
hair algea
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"John H." wrote in message ... This is probably an insane idea but I'm going to ask you guys anyway... I was wondering, my hair algae problem is so bad, if I relocate my fish and disconnect my pumps, could I just add enough bleach directly to the tank to make 5%, then add declorinator to the tank to neutralize the bleach? Is there anything else in bleach that would be toxic to either the fish or the beneficial bacteria other that clorine? I suppose it would kill all the bacteria in the water and gravel... however after neutralizing I still have the bacteria in the pumps? just a thought? That would indeed kill all the algae, also your bacteria and possibly your plants, if you add too much. you would need to empty the tank after doing it, rinse with water and declorinator, then let the tank cycle again, but yeah in theory it would work. but remember it would be a new tank setup situation. §tudz Another thing to bear in mind is even if you do set the tank up again after the bleaching there is nothing to stop the algae from returning as it is present in all water..... I would think the better way of going would be to add more plants to compete with the algae and maybe invest in some algae eaters.... Gill |
hair algea
"Gill Passman" wrote in message .. . Another thing to bear in mind is even if you do set the tank up again after the bleaching there is nothing to stop the algae from returning as it is present in all water..... I would think the better way of going would be to add more plants to compete with the algae and maybe invest in some algae eaters.... Gill I recently bought a CO2 system for my planted tank, the algae growth has all but stopped, but it hasn't disapeared yet, and my plants are going mad, growing SO fast :) §tudz |
hair algea
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"Gill Passman" wrote in message .. . Another thing to bear in mind is even if you do set the tank up again after the bleaching there is nothing to stop the algae from returning as it is present in all water..... I would think the better way of going would be to add more plants to compete with the algae and maybe invest in some algae eaters.... Gill I recently bought a CO2 system for my planted tank, the algae growth has all but stopped, but it hasn't disapeared yet, and my plants are going mad, growing SO fast :) §tudz I've not used a CO2 system on my tanks as yet...one sits in a Conservatory with constant light....but now has no algae problem...defeated by over planting (and plant food weekly) and a combination of clean up guys (Flying Foxes, a Plec and some otos)....occassionally I need to manually pull some hair algae but we are talking once a month at max....the whole thing is reaching a balance...I have some very pretty algae that is trimmed by the fish and so not a problem...bit like a lawn on the driftwood....I've never cut the light to the tank... I think the whole answer is reaching a balance between plant growth and fish and accepting that a little algae is OK....of course massive growth is not acceptable but IME it was defeated by the planting and the clean up crew, a little bit of manual labour and patience....chemical solutions are just temporary...we have one tank that used to be full of green "candyfloss" the over planting has defeated it along with the weekly pulling it out...hasn't taken long (less than a month) and IMO far better than any chemical intervention JME Gill |
hair algea
"Gill Passman" wrote in message .. . I've not used a CO2 system on my tanks as yet...one sits in a Conservatory with constant light....but now has no algae problem...defeated by over planting (and plant food weekly) and a combination of clean up guys (Flying Foxes, a Plec and some otos)....occassionally I need to manually pull some hair algae but we are talking once a month at max....the whole thing is reaching a balance...I have some very pretty algae that is trimmed by the fish and so not a problem...bit like a lawn on the driftwood....I've never cut the light to the tank... I think the whole answer is reaching a balance between plant growth and fish and accepting that a little algae is OK....of course massive growth is not acceptable but IME it was defeated by the planting and the clean up crew, a little bit of manual labour and patience....chemical solutions are just temporary...we have one tank that used to be full of green "candyfloss" the over planting has defeated it along with the weekly pulling it out...hasn't taken long (less than a month) and IMO far better than any chemical intervention JME Gill yeah very true, I did think about chemical usage, but the effects it may have long term on my plants and fish, were not a risk I wanted to take. after the hair algae died back, I had some hard silica-algae on my bogwood, I put the wood in almost boiling tap water, and then scraped it off, the algae that was left, has gone form bright green to a dull grey, so hopefully the silica-algae is dead now to :) I have a bulldog plec, 2 otos (was 4, but you know how it goes) I did have an ancisturs to but he is in a larger tank at the moment. I also have a baby platy which loves eating the hair algae, lol. §tudz |
hair algea
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John H. wrote: I've got a bad case of hair algea in my 55gal. Its mostly attached itself to broad leaf plants, my amazon swords. It reminds me of that fine hair you have to clean of corn, its its much finer than that. There isnt any on the grass I use in forground. ITs really ugly. Not sure where it came from. I've read that you have to use a 5% bleach soln to kill it... thats before you put the plants into your tank, right? What can I do now, trim the affected leaves? Flourish Excel. Use as directed. -- Need Mercedes parts ? - http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home page: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
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