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hau kolas..curious to know what folks here use for dispersal of co2..and which is "best"..the glass/ceramic diffusers or the
powered/passive reactor chambers..or running the co2 gas outlet into the intake of a canister filter? TIA

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Far Thunder wrote:

hau kolas..curious to know what folks here use for dispersal of
co2..and which is "best"..the glass/ceramic diffusers or the
powered/passive reactor chambers..or running the co2 gas outlet into
the intake of a canister filter? TIA

lila pilamaya


The Eheim glass/ceramic diffuser is problematic for may people due to
clogging and the unusually high pressure required to unseat the
checkvalve.


The simple Hagen bubble ladder is easy to use and inexpensive. Also, it
serves the need for a bubble counter. If you can hide one in your tank
it is worth considering. I have experience with one in a 20G and a 125G
tank. The 125G is way beyond the recommended size for this component,
but it is possible to get CO2 up to 20ppm or so with a high flow rate
like 5+ bubbles per second.

A diffuser would be the deluxe solution, especially if you already have
external plumbing. It has the advantages of being completely hidden and
capable of high infusion rates.

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what is a bubble counter and what is its purpose?

"George Pontis" wrote:
Far Thunder wrote:

hau kolas..curious to know what folks here use for dispersal of
co2..and which is "best"..the glass/ceramic diffusers or the
powered/passive reactor chambers..or running the co2 gas outlet into
the intake of a canister filter? TIA

lila pilamaya



The Eheim glass/ceramic diffuser is problematic for may people due to
clogging and the unusually high pressure required to unseat the
checkvalve.


The simple Hagen bubble ladder is easy to use and inexpensive. Also, it
serves the need for a bubble counter. If you can hide one in your tank
it is worth considering. I have experience with one in a 20G and a 125G
tank. The 125G is way beyond the recommended size for this component,
but it is possible to get CO2 up to 20ppm or so with a high flow rate
like 5+ bubbles per second.

A diffuser would be the deluxe solution, especially if you already have
external plumbing. It has the advantages of being completely hidden and
capable of high infusion rates.


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i use the venturri head that came with my Red Sea contraption. I plan
on getting pressurized co2 and still using the venturri. its like a
bubble blender if you will.

"Far Thunder" wrote:
hau kolas..curious to know what folks here use for dispersal of co2..and which is "best"..the glass/ceramic diffusers or the powered/passive reactor chambers..or running the co2 gas outlet into the intake of a canister filter? TIA

lila pilamaya


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Bottom posted.
fusQuanto wrote:
what is a bubble counter and what is its purpose?

"George Pontis" wrote:
Far Thunder wrote:

hau kolas..curious to know what folks here use for dispersal of
co2..and which is "best"..the glass/ceramic diffusers or the
powered/passive reactor chambers..or running the co2 gas outlet
into the intake of a canister filter? TIA

lila pilamaya



The Eheim glass/ceramic diffuser is problematic for may people due to
clogging and the unusually high pressure required to unseat the
checkvalve.


The simple Hagen bubble ladder is easy to use and inexpensive. Also,
it serves the need for a bubble counter. If you can hide one in your
tank it is worth considering. I have experience with one in a 20G
and a 125G tank. The 125G is way beyond the recommended size for
this component, but it is possible to get CO2 up to 20ppm or so with
a high flow rate like 5+ bubbles per second.

A diffuser would be the deluxe solution, especially if you already
have external plumbing. It has the advantages of being completely
hidden and capable of high infusion rates.


I think a bubble counter is a device that lets you calculate how much co2 is
really getting into the water and it allows the bubbles more time to
dissolve when compared to straight emitting the bubble into the bottom of
the tank because with the bubble counter the co2 bubble is in contact with
the water for a much longer amount of time.




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In article ,
fusQuanto wrote:
what is a bubble counter and what is its purpose?


It has nothing to do with bubbles or counting anything, it's actually
an alien propulsion unit from 7 centuries in the future here by mistake.
The aliens trying to recover them insert covert messages into aquarium chat
thingies as a method of communicating in secret.

Or it's a thing that counts bubbles. Your pick.


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"Richard Sexton" wrote in message
...
In article ,
fusQuanto wrote:
what is a bubble counter and what is its purpose?


It has nothing to do with bubbles or counting anything, it's actually
an alien propulsion unit from 7 centuries in the future here by mistake.
The aliens trying to recover them insert covert messages into aquarium

chat
thingies as a method of communicating in secret.


Actually Richard you are wrong, its from 7 centuries in the past. And
contratry to popular belief it was not a mistake, it was the 'Intelligent
Designer' aka Flying Spaghetti Monster that purposely sent it here. Were
still trying to figure out exactly what it does. Religious folks call it a
miracle but more sane people are calling it what it really is, a spade! So
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fusQuanto wrote:

what is a bubble counter and what is its purpose?

"George Pontis" wrote:
Far Thunder wrote:

...

A diffuser would be the deluxe solution, especially if you already
have external plumbing. It has the advantages of being completely
hidden and capable of high infusion rates.



A bubble counter is a clear vessel, often a plastic cylinder, filled
with a liquid through which your CO2 bubbles up before entering the
tubing that will carry it to the diffuser. Most CO2 regulator
assemblies for an aquarium have one after the needle valve. It is
useful to get an quick estimate of your CO2 flow rate since an aquarium
takes a long time to reach equilibrium.

For a pictu

http://www.automatedaquariums.com/mw_ma957.htm
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Old 26-01-2006, 06:33 AM posted to rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants
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"Daniel Morrow" wrote in message
...
Bottom posted.
fusQuanto wrote:
what is a bubble counter and what is its purpose?

"George Pontis" wrote:
Far Thunder wrote:

hau kolas..curious to know what folks here use for dispersal of
co2..and which is "best"..the glass/ceramic diffusers or the
powered/passive reactor chambers..or running the co2 gas outlet
into the intake of a canister filter? TIA

lila pilamaya


The Eheim glass/ceramic diffuser is problematic for may people due to
clogging and the unusually high pressure required to unseat the
checkvalve.


The simple Hagen bubble ladder is easy to use and inexpensive. Also,
it serves the need for a bubble counter. If you can hide one in your
tank it is worth considering. I have experience with one in a 20G
and a 125G tank. The 125G is way beyond the recommended size for
this component, but it is possible to get CO2 up to 20ppm or so with
a high flow rate like 5+ bubbles per second.

A diffuser would be the deluxe solution, especially if you already
have external plumbing. It has the advantages of being completely
hidden and capable of high infusion rates.


I think a bubble counter is a device that lets you calculate how much co2
is
really getting into the water and it allows the bubbles more time to
dissolve when compared to straight emitting the bubble into the bottom of
the tank because with the bubble counter the co2 bubble is in contact with
the water for a much longer amount of time.


slightly different take on the bubble counter.
It's there to measure rate. Find out how many bubbles per minute and keep a
record of bubbles per minute and the Ph level. The more bubbles per minute,
the more Co2 and (hopefully) a corresponding decrease in Ph level. Bubble
counters are inline between the pressure regulator and the reactor or
delivery system in the aquarium. My bubble counter is made from a juice
jug, stopper and some rigid tube. Works GREAT and gives me an accurate
count (rate) of delivery so I can adjust the Co2 in measured amounts.

HTH,

DJay




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