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Old 28-03-2003, 09:21 PM
Carmine J. Ventura JR
 
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Hello everyone,

Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather this
system is good or bad, please reply.

Thanks

Carmine





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Old 28-03-2003, 09:21 PM
Ross Vandegrift
 
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In article , Carmine J. Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather this
system is good or bad, please reply.


Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd skip it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots them.
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Old 28-03-2003, 09:32 PM
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"Carmine J. Ventura JR" wrote:

Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather this
system is good or bad, please reply.


I've got just the diffuser/bubble counter, and I like it a lot. You
can easily see that CO2 is being dissolved into the tank, as the
bubbles get much smaller as they work toward the top of the diffuser.

I'd recommend just get the diffuser by itself (petsolutions item
number 15517698), and use a yeast-in-a-bottle DIY CO2 with it.

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Old 28-03-2003, 09:44 PM
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I have the same one, and I have stopped using the canister and now use my
own bottle. It's best just to buy the diffusor.

"Eric Schreiber" wrote in message
...
"Carmine J. Ventura JR" wrote:

Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in

the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather

this
system is good or bad, please reply.


I've got just the diffuser/bubble counter, and I like it a lot. You
can easily see that CO2 is being dissolved into the tank, as the
bubbles get much smaller as they work toward the top of the diffuser.

I'd recommend just get the diffuser by itself (petsolutions item
number 15517698), and use a yeast-in-a-bottle DIY CO2 with it.

--
www.ericschreiber.com



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Old 29-03-2003, 05:44 AM
linda mar
 
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I understand yeast, but how does the baking soda help prevention of excess
pressure build up?

linda

"Ross Vandegrift" wrote in message
m...
In article , Carmine J.

Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in

the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather

this
system is good or bad, please reply.


Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd skip it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water

Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots

them.




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Old 29-03-2003, 03:32 PM
Wilma Duncan
 
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I use this system and it works great.
Wilma
"Carmine J. Ventura JR" wrote in message
...
Hello everyone,

Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather this
system is good or bad, please reply.

Thanks

Carmine






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Old 30-03-2003, 12:20 AM
Frank Mamone
 
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I don't think the baking soda is meant to do that. I think it's to help keep
your PH stable by adding carbonate to your water.


"linda mar" wrote in message
...
I understand yeast, but how does the baking soda help prevention of excess
pressure build up?

linda

"Ross Vandegrift" wrote in message
m...
In article , Carmine J.

Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in

the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather

this
system is good or bad, please reply.


Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd skip it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water

Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots

them.




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A yeast reactors limiting factor is the level of alcohol that yeast can
handle until it is exhausted. The baking soda buffers the water to prevent
a large swing in PH inside the yeast reactor.

I found that if you visit a local wine shop or brewing shop you can find
alcohol resistant yeast that is much better than brewers yeast that is found
in the store. The trick is to catch your yeast reactor before it has
reached the level that the yeast is "dead" from alcohol poisoning. Remove
the old water retaining the yeast culture at the bottom of the bottle...
add clean water, sugar, baking soda and the yeast reactor is ready for
another 1-2 months.

BTW unless you do something to limit the amount of C02 injected in your
tank, ie add a valve, it is unlikely that you will every have a problem with
"exploding" CO2 reactor. You should however have a one way value to
prevent a siphon from your tank to the floor. I guessing this is really
the "exploding" CO2 bottle...

Da'fishboy


"linda mar" wrote in message
...
I understand yeast, but how does the baking soda help prevention of excess
pressure build up?

linda

"Ross Vandegrift" wrote in message
m...
In article , Carmine J.

Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are in

the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to weather

this
system is good or bad, please reply.


Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd skip it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water

Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He shoots

them.




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Frank Mamone
 
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What could a siphon occur?


"Earl D Fitzgerald" wrote in message
...

A yeast reactors limiting factor is the level of alcohol that yeast can
handle until it is exhausted. The baking soda buffers the water to

prevent
a large swing in PH inside the yeast reactor.

I found that if you visit a local wine shop or brewing shop you can find
alcohol resistant yeast that is much better than brewers yeast that is

found
in the store. The trick is to catch your yeast reactor before it has
reached the level that the yeast is "dead" from alcohol poisoning.

Remove
the old water retaining the yeast culture at the bottom of the bottle...
add clean water, sugar, baking soda and the yeast reactor is ready for
another 1-2 months.

BTW unless you do something to limit the amount of C02 injected in your
tank, ie add a valve, it is unlikely that you will every have a problem

with
"exploding" CO2 reactor. You should however have a one way value to
prevent a siphon from your tank to the floor. I guessing this is really
the "exploding" CO2 bottle...

Da'fishboy


"linda mar" wrote in message
...
I understand yeast, but how does the baking soda help prevention of

excess
pressure build up?

linda

"Ross Vandegrift" wrote in message
m...
In article , Carmine J.

Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY are

in
the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to

weather
this
system is good or bad, please reply.

Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the

assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd skip

it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a Water

Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy Holy-Water

Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He

shoots
them.






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basicly the bottle builds up a pressure to defeat the water pressure... so
bubble if you will. After a burst of CO2 the bubble relaxes and reduction
of pressure could create a siphon to the yeast reactor. I had this problem
before I installed a 1 way valve into my reactors airline.


"Frank Mamone" wrote in message
...
What could a siphon occur?


"Earl D Fitzgerald" wrote in message
...

A yeast reactors limiting factor is the level of alcohol that yeast can
handle until it is exhausted. The baking soda buffers the water to

prevent
a large swing in PH inside the yeast reactor.

I found that if you visit a local wine shop or brewing shop you can find
alcohol resistant yeast that is much better than brewers yeast that is

found
in the store. The trick is to catch your yeast reactor before it has
reached the level that the yeast is "dead" from alcohol poisoning.

Remove
the old water retaining the yeast culture at the bottom of the bottle...
add clean water, sugar, baking soda and the yeast reactor is ready for
another 1-2 months.

BTW unless you do something to limit the amount of C02 injected in your
tank, ie add a valve, it is unlikely that you will every have a problem

with
"exploding" CO2 reactor. You should however have a one way value to
prevent a siphon from your tank to the floor. I guessing this is

really
the "exploding" CO2 bottle...

Da'fishboy


"linda mar" wrote in message
...
I understand yeast, but how does the baking soda help prevention of

excess
pressure build up?

linda

"Ross Vandegrift" wrote in message
m...
In article , Carmine

J.
Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY

are
in
the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to

weather
this
system is good or bad, please reply.

Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the

assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your

house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd skip

it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda

bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a

Water
Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He

shoots
them.










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Old 04-04-2003, 10:32 PM
Frank Mamone
 
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Thanks...I will install one tonight!


"Earl D Fitzgerald" wrote in message
...
basicly the bottle builds up a pressure to defeat the water pressure...

so
bubble if you will. After a burst of CO2 the bubble relaxes and reduction
of pressure could create a siphon to the yeast reactor. I had this

problem
before I installed a 1 way valve into my reactors airline.


"Frank Mamone" wrote in message
...
What could a siphon occur?


"Earl D Fitzgerald" wrote in message
...

A yeast reactors limiting factor is the level of alcohol that yeast

can
handle until it is exhausted. The baking soda buffers the water to

prevent
a large swing in PH inside the yeast reactor.

I found that if you visit a local wine shop or brewing shop you can

find
alcohol resistant yeast that is much better than brewers yeast that is

found
in the store. The trick is to catch your yeast reactor before it has
reached the level that the yeast is "dead" from alcohol poisoning.

Remove
the old water retaining the yeast culture at the bottom of the

bottle...
add clean water, sugar, baking soda and the yeast reactor is ready for
another 1-2 months.

BTW unless you do something to limit the amount of C02 injected in

your
tank, ie add a valve, it is unlikely that you will every have a

problem
with
"exploding" CO2 reactor. You should however have a one way value to
prevent a siphon from your tank to the floor. I guessing this is

really
the "exploding" CO2 bottle...

Da'fishboy


"linda mar" wrote in message
...
I understand yeast, but how does the baking soda help prevention of

excess
pressure build up?

linda

"Ross Vandegrift" wrote in message
m...
In article ,

Carmine
J.
Ventura JR wrote:
Does anyone out there have a nutrafin CO2 system ? What EXACTLY

are
in
the
CO2 stabilizer and CO2 activator packets? Any feed back as to

weather
this
system is good or bad, please reply.

Yeast and baking soda. It's good for tanks when you want the

assurance
that you won't blow up a tank of yeast and sugar all over your

house.

I've gotten good use out of mine, but if I had to go again, I'd

skip
it.
It's just been too easy to do the exact same thing with a soda

bottle
and homemade diffuser.


--
Ross Vandegrift


A Pope has a Water Cannon. It is a

Water
Cannon.
He fires Holy-Water from it. It is a

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He Blesses it. It is a Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He Blesses the Hell out of it. It is a Wholly Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He has it pierced. It is a Holey Wholly Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
He makes it official. It is a Canon Holey Wholly Holy

Holy-Water
Cannon.
Batman and Robin arrive. He

shoots
them.












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