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How do i soften my water
"Eoghan" wrote in message ... I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. You can mix your water with distilled water from the store but that can get costly. You can buy products online that soften water that are cleaned/recharged with salt and used over and over. You can by an Reverse Osmosis unit and make your own soft water. The best thing to do in many people's opinion is try and acclimate them to your water or keep fish that thrive in your water's hardness instead. My Tank has been set up now for over a year, even when I out weekly partcial water changes the hair grass algae has not subsided. My stocking levels are low and I have even used remedies to combat the problem but nothing seems to work I've always kept plants in my tanks that competed with hair algae so it's not much of a problem. More partial water changes or larger water changes should help. Feed carefully so there's no excess food rotting on the gravel or in the filter. If you're using an UGF try and remove the mulm that's under it with a siphon hose. Remove as much of the hair algae as you can with a clean old toothbrush. -- Koi-Lo.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
How do i soften my water
Listening to Koi Lo aka Carol Gulley can and usually does result in
havingproblems with yur fish i the long run as she does ot have a clue what she is talking about. She has given out nfo on more than one occassion that cost folks their fish and plants. A simple google search of Koi-Lo or Carol Gulley will reveal the person for what she really is........trouble with a capitol "T" no matter where she goes or whatever info she gives. On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 15:56:36 -0500, "Koi-Lo" wrote: "Eoghan" wrote in message .. . I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. You can mix your water with distilled water from the store but that can get costly. You can buy products online that soften water that are cleaned/recharged with salt and used over and over. You can by an Reverse Osmosis unit and make your own soft water. The best thing to do in many people's opinion is try and acclimate them to your water or keep fish that thrive in your water's hardness instead. My Tank has been set up now for over a year, even when I out weekly partcial water changes the hair grass algae has not subsided. My stocking levels are low and I have even used remedies to combat the problem but nothing seems to work I've always kept plants in my tanks that competed with hair algae so it's not much of a problem. More partial water changes or larger water changes should help. Feed carefully so there's no excess food rotting on the gravel or in the filter. If you're using an UGF try and remove the mulm that's under it with a siphon hose. Remove as much of the hair algae as you can with a clean old toothbrush. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
How do i soften my water
I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. Any solutions? Thanks Eoghan(It's the irish way of spellin owen) -- Eoghan |
How do i soften my water
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:03:39 +0100, Eoghan
wrote: I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. Any solutions? Thanks Eoghan(It's the irish way of spellin owen) Reverse Osmosis is the most reliable. |
How do i soften my water
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:03:39 +0100, Eoghan
wrote: I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. Any solutions? Thanks Eoghan(It's the irish way of spellin owen) Why do you want to soften your water? What problem are you trying to solve? Hard water is not a problem, it is a condition. You can change the condition or you can change the plants or fish to suit the condition. dick |
How do i soften my water
Why are you dissagreeing with the information Koi Lo aka Carol Gulley put out. Its of no concern to you why he wants the water soft, only to answer how and Carol Gulley already came to his rescue. Dick you are a dumbass. On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 05:17:44 -0500, Dick wrote: On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:03:39 +0100, Eoghan wrote: I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. Any solutions? Thanks Eoghan(It's the irish way of spellin owen) Why do you want to soften your water? What problem are you trying to solve? Hard water is not a problem, it is a condition. You can change the condition or you can change the plants or fish to suit the condition. dick -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
How do i soften my water
"Dick" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:03:39 +0100, Eoghan wrote: I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. Any solutions? Thanks Eoghan(It's the irish way of spellin owen) Why do you want to soften your water? What problem are you trying to solve? Hard water is not a problem, it is a condition. You can change the condition or you can change the plants or fish to suit the condition. dick ==================== He want's to keep the tetras that do best in soft water, but his water is hard. Some aquarists will just keep fish that thrive in their particular water conditions as you know. Others try and acclimate their fish to their conditions if not ideal. I've had angelfish and fish like bettas adapt to my 300+ calcium rich hard alkaline water but they don't breed or the eggs don't hatch. The smaller sof****er, lower PH fish don't live very long for me, usually less than 6 months, so I don't get them anymore. -- KL....... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
How do i soften my water
yet more bull shit from Carol Gulley On Fri, 16 Jun 2006 11:18:51 -0500, Köi-Lö ¤1¤ôx@ôÜ1Ô.ôôô wrote: "Dick" wrote in message .. . On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 23:03:39 +0100, Eoghan wrote: I was wondering if there was an easy way of softening my water. Maybe fiter media or anythin, except rainwater(dont trust it). I want to keep cardinal tetra, rams and rummy-nosed tetra but my water is to hard. Any solutions? Thanks Eoghan(It's the irish way of spellin owen) Why do you want to soften your water? What problem are you trying to solve? Hard water is not a problem, it is a condition. You can change the condition or you can change the plants or fish to suit the condition. dick ==================== He want's to keep the tetras that do best in soft water, but his water is hard. Some aquarists will just keep fish that thrive in their particular water conditions as you know. Others try and acclimate their fish to their conditions if not ideal. I've had angelfish and fish like bettas adapt to my 300+ calcium rich hard alkaline water but they don't breed or the eggs don't hatch. The smaller sof****er, lower PH fish don't live very long for me, usually less than 6 months, so I don't get them anymore. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
How do i soften my water
Sof****er fish live and breed fine in hard water. The eggs will not
be fertile though. If you're not breeding them it is of no concern. I could be wrong of course, but that's what I've noticed in 30 years of doing exactly this. Just another data point. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
How do i soften my water
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Sof****er fish live and breed fine in hard water. Everyone's experience may be different Richard. Small soft-water acid-water tetras have seldom lived longer than 6 months for me. Our water is off the scale for hardness and the PH can reach 7.8 - 8. The larger more robust fish would adapt. The eggs will not be fertile though. If you're not breeding them it is of no concern. This is true but I have yet to get bettas to even spawn in these waters, whereas in NYs soft acid water it was a snap. Many males don't even make a bubble nest to speak of. I never had tetras to spawn here in TN but they did (in the tank's plants) in NY. But again - this is just MY experience. Bettas do adapt and live fine in my water otherwise. If a person is not interested in breeding then they should give it a go. I believe their electrolyte balance goes off then forced to live in hard alkaline water and that eventually causes their deaths. I could be wrong of course, but that's what I've noticed in 30 years of doing exactly this. Just another data point. And it goes to show you how different things can be from one person's aquarium to another's aquarium..... :-) -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
How do i soften my water
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Köi-Lö ¤1¤ôx@ôÜ1Ô.ôôô wrote: "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Sof****er fish live and breed fine in hard water. (snipped: but they need soft water to produce fertils eggs) Everyone's experience may be different Richard. Charlie Drew has been breeding neons for 30 years this way. His tapwater is 375ppm carbonate. He breeds them in soft peat water. JJ Scheel documented the same thing in _Rivulins of the Old World_. The McInnery book also says the same thing. The Authors have bred thouands of neons anf other sof****er fish this way. And I've noticed it's true too. Ron Harlan who used to sell RO filters back in the 80's had 20 years of similar experiences. Just because you can't keep them alive for six months doesn't really invalidate this 150 man years, just a small slice, of empirical evidence. -- Need Mercedes parts? http://parts.mbz.org Richard Sexton | Mercedes stuff: http://mbz.org 1970 280SE, 72 280SE | Home pages: http://rs79.vrx.net 633CSi 250SE/C 300SD | http://aquaria.net http://killi.net |
How do i soften my water
Hi Richard..
Nice to read you.. [...] No doubt about it: (Red) Neons _are_ soft water fish(es)..! -- cu Marco |
How do i soften my water
"Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... In article , Köi-Lö ¤1¤ôx@ôÜ1Ô.ôôô wrote: "Richard Sexton" wrote in message ... Sof****er fish live and breed fine in hard water. (snipped: but they need soft water to produce fertils eggs) Everyone's experience may be different Richard. Charlie Drew has been breeding neons for 30 years this way. His tapwater is 375ppm carbonate. He breeds them in soft peat water. But we're talking about HARD ALKALINE water. JJ Scheel documented the same thing in _Rivulins of the Old World_. The McInnery book also says the same thing. The Authors have bred thouands of neons anf other sof****er fish this way. And I've noticed it's true too. Ron Harlan who used to sell RO filters back in the 80's had 20 years of similar experiences. Just because you can't keep them alive for six months doesn't really invalidate this 150 man years, just a small slice, of empirical evidence. Exactly! That's why I said everyone's experience is different. I'm sure somewhere out there someone bred neons in water even harder than 375ppm softened and acidified by peat. I didn't soften the water or lower it's PH with peat. I hoped the tetra's would adapt to my "natural" water conditions. But while all those fish that preferred harder more alkaline water flourished and thrived, the low-PH, soft-water fish faded away. Again I'm talking about *MY* natural water conditions without bothering with peat to soften and acidify the water. -- KL.... Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
How do i soften my water
"Marco Schwarz" wrote in message ... Hi Richard.. Nice to read you.. [...] No doubt about it: (Red) Neons _are_ soft water fish(es)..! -- cu Marco ======================== And although the soft water fish thrived for me when I had soft acidic water, they did not when I tried keeping them in hard alkaline water. Breeding them was not the reason I bought them. -- KL.... Frugal ponding since 1995. Aquariums since 1952. My Pond & Aquarium Pages: http://tinyurl.com/9do58 ~~~~ }((((* ~~~ }{{{{(ö ~~~~ }((((({* |
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