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David Kershaw 21-02-2007 05:27 PM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 
My intention is to maintain a plant display tank, but algie is always doing
to be a problem, so can anyone advise me on the best choice of shrinps or
fish to control the algie?
Regards
David



Richard Sexton 21-02-2007 06:23 PM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 
In article ,
David Kershaw wrote:
My intention is to maintain a plant display tank, but algie is always doing
to be a problem, so can anyone advise me on the best choice of shrinps or
fish to control the algie?


In a properly fertilized tank you won't have algae. The plants will out-compete
them.

Having said that a couple of dozen ammano shrimp never hurt any
planted tank.

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Skip Hollowell 21-02-2007 08:02 PM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 
Richard Sexton wrote:
In article ,
David Kershaw wrote:
My intention is to maintain a plant display tank, but algie is always doing
to be a problem, so can anyone advise me on the best choice of shrinps or
fish to control the algie?


In a properly fertilized tank you won't have algae. The plants will out-compete
them.

Having said that a couple of dozen ammano shrimp never hurt any
planted tank.

What is the recommended 'dosage' of shrimp per gallon? Seems like kind
of a silly question, but assuming a person can't get the tank properly
fertilized (I am sure I get more of an understanding that that means as
the experiment continues) is it just a matter of adding a few at a time
until you notice they are keeping up with their required housekeeping
duties?

I have 6 in my 20 gallon tank, and the little buggers seem to, for the
most part, be content to just hang out on the driftwood all day. It
must have all the eats they need. I'd hate to drop $30 on 6 more just
to find *them* hanging out on the driftwood in one big shrimp ball.

The 2 blueberry shrimp are not quite the homebodies, and are constantly
on the move throughout the tank.

Richard Sexton 21-02-2007 09:23 PM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 
In article ,
Skip Hollowell wrote:
What is the recommended 'dosage' of shrimp per gallon? Seems like kind
of a silly question, but assuming a person can't get the tank properly
fertilized (I am sure I get more of an understanding that that means as
the experiment continues) is it just a matter of adding a few at a time
until you notice they are keeping up with their required housekeeping
duties?


Well, shrimp can add as much to the bioload as equivalent fish. In
a shrimp only tank there's as much, uh, "waste" as if you'd put fish
in there. So the usual stocking rules apply.

Shrimp are deathly sensitive to ammonia and it's ammonia that
algae prefers to feed on. Frequent water changes help.

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Reel McKoi 22-02-2007 01:13 AM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 

"Skip Hollowell" wrote in message
...

I have 6 in my 20 gallon tank, and the little buggers seem to, for the
most part, be content to just hang out on the driftwood all day. It must
have all the eats they need. I'd hate to drop $30 on 6 more just to find
*them* hanging out on the driftwood in one big shrimp ball.

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What are you feeding them? Just curious.
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Richard Sexton 22-02-2007 03:45 AM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 
In article ,
Reel McKoi wrote:

"Skip Hollowell" wrote in message
...

I have 6 in my 20 gallon tank, and the little buggers seem to, for the
most part, be content to just hang out on the driftwood all day. It must
have all the eats they need. I'd hate to drop $30 on 6 more just to find
*them* hanging out on the driftwood in one big shrimp ball.

==========================
What are you feeding them? Just curious.


You don't need to feed them. If you have plants they live off dead leaves,
microrganisms that live on the leaves, you name it.

They eat everything though. I fed mine live white worms and was surprised
to even see filter feeding shrimp eat them as well as ammanos and the
smaller colorfull ones.

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Skip Hollowell 22-02-2007 01:38 PM

Advice on choice of shrimps and/or fish for a plant tank
 
Richard Sexton wrote:
In article ,
Reel McKoi wrote:
"Skip Hollowell" wrote in message
...
I have 6 in my 20 gallon tank, and the little buggers seem to, for the
most part, be content to just hang out on the driftwood all day. It must
have all the eats they need. I'd hate to drop $30 on 6 more just to find
*them* hanging out on the driftwood in one big shrimp ball.

==========================
What are you feeding them? Just curious.


You don't need to feed them. If you have plants they live off dead leaves,
microrganisms that live on the leaves, you name it.

They eat everything though. I fed mine live white worms and was surprised
to even see filter feeding shrimp eat them as well as ammanos and the
smaller colorfull ones.

I'll second that. They eat it all, from the dry micro pellets I put in
for the tetras and dannios, as well as all green matter, and some of
them even bellied up to to one of the dannios that had shuffled off it's
mortal coil.

I guess I really need to test the water and see where I am at, cycle
wise, to get a better picture of what I need to be looking at for
getting things in balance. I did a 20% change this weekend for the
first time with this tank, more to clear up some of the tannin stains in
the water from the driftwood than anything else.

Skip


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