I made a trade today. I swapped out a nice big softball size chunk of
pipe organ coral for two large chunks of ready to use drift
wood........so, whats the best method of attaching java ferns etc to
the drift wood, rubber bands? I managed to thread some roots of
java ferns through some splits and holes etc, and stuck other JFerns
here and there with rubber bands.......so is rubber bands the way to
go or what? The rubber bands are not on really tight, to the point
they cut into the roots etc, but sufficient to hold the fern in place.
I had to make space as my Helvola lilly is going crazy in growing in
the display tank, so I had to make some floor space and also space for
light ......I just planted a few onion bulbs in the tank the other day
and already they are approx 6" in length.....




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~Roy~ wrote:
I made a trade today. I swapped out a nice big softball size chunk of
pipe organ coral for two large chunks of ready to use drift
wood........so, whats the best method of attaching java ferns etc to
the drift wood, rubber bands? I managed to thread some roots of
java ferns through some splits and holes etc, and stuck other JFerns
here and there with rubber bands.......so is rubber bands the way to
go or what? The rubber bands are not on really tight, to the point
they cut into the roots etc, but sufficient to hold the fern in place.
I had to make space as my Helvola lilly is going crazy in growing in
the display tank, so I had to make some floor space and also space for
light ......I just planted a few onion bulbs in the tank the other day
and already they are approx 6" in length.....




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I've tried cotton but it didn't really work.....I still get the Java
ferns and anubias drifting off into the great beyond once the cotton
rots down.....maybe the same will apply to rubber bands as they will
also degrade....my best successes have been when I've just plain pinned
down the roots on the substrate with a bit of driftwood or a rock...I
wanted to move some the other day in my 5gall tank and just couldn't
uproot it off the driftwood...but of course some of this depends on the
fish that you keep - my Clowns and Yoyos are b*ggers for sending the
stuff flying.....I have heard very good reports of using fishing line to
do the job....it is clear so not too much of an issue on the eye.....one
day I'll make it into an angling shop and buy some but IIRC as a keen
fisherman you should have some lying around....

Gill

WARNING!!!!!!!!!!

Some people were not warned until too late:

As one of the main "target victims" of Roy "Tristan" Hauer's constant
personal
attacks and endless slander, I feel obliged to warn anyone posting here or
on any of these NGs that the ~Roy~ posting on rec.ponds is the SAME ~Roy~
posting on
other aquarium groups including rec.ponds.moderated.

He also uses the name "Tristan" and he impersonates innocent
people he "has it in for," posting smut and inane messages in their
names/nyms.

Please be advised if you should you say something to him or
someone else on these groups, innocent as it may be that he takes exception
to, you are opening yourself to the worst verbal abuse and vicious slander
imaginable. He will follow you from one group to another to harass, slander
and degrade you - and trash the group. He will nym-shift to avoid
killfiles. It's truly the worst case of "Usenet Rage" I have seen since I
came online 11 years ago. It goes beyond trolling and into the realms of
insanity. No one, male or female is immune from this man's uncontrollable
rage - he's like a bomb, you never know what can set him off. No one
deserves to endure the abuse of this individual so I give you fair warning.

**USE EXTREME CAUTION** if you reply to any of his messages.

These are just a few examples of what you can expect from Mr. Hauer.
Remember, he can be your friend one minute and the next....... well, see
for yourselves. No one can justify what this person posts.

NOTE = X-RATED:

----- Original Message ----- 1
From: "Tristan" Roy "Tristan" Hauer
Newsgroups: rec.ponds
Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 9:46 AM
Subject: Attn: all true rec.ponders -please post to
news.groups.proposals -from ron

Hey Gail , suck my cock you whineing ****head! There how is that if
you think I used provocative language, before, yo lied. Now yu have a
****ing reason to whine, bitch!
---------------------------------- 2
"~Roy~" Roy "Tristan" Hauer
wrote in message ...
Ahhhhhhhhh, so if its not Miss Legale all 350+ pounds of her....whats
a matter there fat ass you like the attention you got before and had
to come back for more.......or do you plan to grab info and then slam
the group again?

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..---------------------------------- 3
"Tristin" Roy "Tristan" Hauer
wrote in message ...

That shit is easily circumvenbted there dipshit Your destined to be a
dumbass all your life Wayne. There is a life besides selling dead pets
and supporting trolls ya know!

------------------------------------ 4

"Dan Rather" wrote in message
... a Roy "Tristan" Hauer
sock.
Hey Ed Alston...do you also wear panties and a dress when you go by
the name of Millie? I bet you do your wife and momma proud! You old
cocksucker you!

Now I am out of here, I do not have time to play with you jerkoffs
that are just small potatoes, who will never amount to anything other
than dog shit between the toes of Carol Gulley......

I'll drop in from time to time just to keep things the way I left
them! hahahahahaha ya ****ing looser, so don't get too comfy!
You can reach -Ed Alston at

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Roy" wrote in message -- Roy "Tristan" Hauer
...

Hey Ron, you can go **** yourself too....and then lick my ass, I could
give a flying **** what yuou google up or google down, it matters not
to me. I am not afraid to own up to anything I posted anywhere


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"~Roy~" wrote in message
...
I made a trade today. I swapped out a nice big softball size chunk of
pipe organ coral for two large chunks of ready to use drift
wood........so, whats the best method of attaching java ferns etc to
the drift wood, rubber bands? I managed to thread some roots of
java ferns through some splits and holes etc, and stuck other JFerns
here and there with rubber bands.......so is rubber bands the way to
go or what? The rubber bands are not on really tight, to the point
they cut into the roots etc, but sufficient to hold the fern in place.
I had to make space as my Helvola lilly is going crazy in growing in
the display tank, so I had to make some floor space and also space for
light ......I just planted a few onion bulbs in the tank the other day
and already they are approx 6" in length.....




-------
I forgot more about ponds and koi than I'll ever know!

Gill Passman wrote:

I've tried cotton but it didn't really work.....I still get the Java
ferns and anubias drifting off into the great beyond once the cotton
rots down.....maybe the same will apply to rubber bands as they will
also degrade....my best successes have been when I've just plain pinned
down the roots on the substrate with a bit of driftwood or a rock...I

I use rubber bands on a log and it works fine. By the time the rubber band
breaks, or I remove it, the java fern has rooted into every crevice on the
log.

I've got one 8"-10" log that started out with one small java fern on it. Now
you can't see the log and I've moved several plants off of it and into other
tanks.

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