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Old 20-04-2003, 07:16 AM
Dustin
 
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Hello All -

First Id like to say, THANK YOU - You've all been so helpful the last few
days.
Ive decided to go with a bigger tank then the 29 that i currently own.

Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for the planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck? any mail
orders, or something to that effect?

Thanks In Advance!

Dustin


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Default 75 or 90 for planted?

Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for the planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck? any mail
orders, or something to that effect?


Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with the 75
gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference is the 75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper than 24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You wouldn't think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because light intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank is that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!). I've heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they reached into a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got into the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical. The shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain like PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss in hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc. Call around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge hundreds of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all wanted $700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo asked $325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/
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I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual, gives
excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not then I
appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I find that even
though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank, 25 inches is not
insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to terrace. In addition, I
personally think that less than 24 inches looks a little funny with a
canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a canopy over the top of the
tank-- but assess how you think it may look with the shallower tank in the
event you do want a canopy. Keep in mind also that there may be plants that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain sections of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you may have
trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small person,
then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep for you to reach
into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching the bottom of my 135
gallon tank. I do not have a problem with this depth-- though any deeper
would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25 inches
may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for the

planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck? any

mail
orders, or something to that effect?


Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with the 75
gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference is the

75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper than

24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You wouldn't

think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because light

intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank is that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!). I've

heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they reached into

a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got into

the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical. The

shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain like

PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss in

hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc. Call

around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge hundreds

of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all wanted

$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo asked

$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/



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Dustin
 
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Default 75 or 90 for planted?

Thanks for the input you two

I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs, I got a better discount
since I am friends with the manager, 599.00 Im guessing that is a good
price

Any suggestions for lighting this for plant growth?
Thanks!
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual, gives
excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not then I
appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I find that even
though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank, 25 inches is not
insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to terrace. In addition, I
personally think that less than 24 inches looks a little funny with a
canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a canopy over the top of the
tank-- but assess how you think it may look with the shallower tank in the
event you do want a canopy. Keep in mind also that there may be plants

that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain sections

of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you may have
trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small person,
then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep for you to reach
into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching the bottom of my 135
gallon tank. I do not have a problem with this depth-- though any deeper
would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25 inches
may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for the

planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck? any

mail
orders, or something to that effect?


Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with the 75
gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference is the

75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper than

24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You wouldn't

think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because light

intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank is

that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!). I've

heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they reached

into
a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got into

the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical. The

shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain like

PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss in

hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc. Call

around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge

hundreds
of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all

wanted
$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo asked

$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/





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Jenya
 
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Congratulations on your new toy!
Sounds like fun.
It is good that your original question wasn't 125 or 150 because then you'd
end up with 225

--
Jenya
Computers are useless. They can only give answers.-Pablo Picasso
"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the input you two

I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs, I got a better discount
since I am friends with the manager, 599.00 Im guessing that is a good
price

Any suggestions for lighting this for plant growth?
Thanks!
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual, gives
excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not then I
appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I find that

even
though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank, 25 inches is not
insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to terrace. In addition, I
personally think that less than 24 inches looks a little funny with a
canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a canopy over the top of

the
tank-- but assess how you think it may look with the shallower tank in

the
event you do want a canopy. Keep in mind also that there may be plants

that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain sections

of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you may

have
trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small

person,
then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep for you to

reach
into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching the bottom of my

135
gallon tank. I do not have a problem with this depth-- though any

deeper
would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25

inches
may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for the

planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck?

any
mail
orders, or something to that effect?

Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with the

75
gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference is

the
75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper

than
24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You wouldn't

think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because light

intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank is

that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!). I've

heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they reached

into
a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got

into
the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical. The

shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain

like
PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss in

hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc. Call

around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge

hundreds
of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all

wanted
$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo

asked
$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/









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Haha I KNOW - I go overboard - Oh well - Thank God For Master Card


"Jenya" wrote in message
...
Congratulations on your new toy!
Sounds like fun.
It is good that your original question wasn't 125 or 150 because then

you'd
end up with 225

--
Jenya
Computers are useless. They can only give answers.-Pablo Picasso
"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Thanks for the input you two

I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs, I got a better discount
since I am friends with the manager, 599.00 Im guessing that is a good
price

Any suggestions for lighting this for plant growth?
Thanks!
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual,

gives
excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not then I
appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I find that

even
though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank, 25 inches is not
insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to terrace. In addition,

I
personally think that less than 24 inches looks a little funny with a
canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a canopy over the top of

the
tank-- but assess how you think it may look with the shallower tank in

the
event you do want a canopy. Keep in mind also that there may be

plants
that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain

sections
of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you may

have
trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small

person,
then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep for you to

reach
into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching the bottom of my

135
gallon tank. I do not have a problem with this depth-- though any

deeper
would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25

inches
may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for

the
planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck?

any
mail
orders, or something to that effect?

Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with

the
75
gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference is

the
75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper

than
24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You

wouldn't
think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because

light
intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank

is
that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!).

I've
heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they

reached
into
a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got

into
the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical.

The
shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain

like
PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss

in
hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc. Call
around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge

hundreds
of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all

wanted
$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo

asked
$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/








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Moose
 
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Jeepers. I hope that's not american $... that's a heck of a lot of $ to
spend on a 125g tank. You could've easily made your own for a small tiny
itsy fraction of that cost.

"Dustin" wrote in
:

Thanks for the input you two

I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs, I got a better
discount since I am friends with the manager, 599.00 Im guessing that
is a good price

Any suggestions for lighting this for plant growth?
Thanks!
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual,
gives excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not
then I appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I
find that even though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank, 25
inches is not insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to terrace.
In addition, I personally think that less than 24 inches looks a
little funny with a canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a
canopy over the top of the tank-- but assess how you think it may
look with the shallower tank in the event you do want a canopy. Keep
in mind also that there may be plants

that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain
sections

of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you may
have trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small
person, then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep for
you to reach into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching
the bottom of my 135 gallon tank. I do not have a problem with this
depth-- though any deeper would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25
inches may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for
the

planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck?
any

mail
orders, or something to that effect?

Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with
the 75 gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference
is the

75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper
than

24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You
wouldn't

think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because
light

intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank
is

that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!).
I've

heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they
reached

into
a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got
into

the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical.
The

shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain
like

PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss
in

hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc.
Call

around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge

hundreds
of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all

wanted
$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo
asked

$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/







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Dustin
 
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Yea thats american, hood / canapy / solid oak stand / tank.

Bad price?



"Moose" wrote in message
.159...
Jeepers. I hope that's not american $... that's a heck of a lot of $ to
spend on a 125g tank. You could've easily made your own for a small tiny
itsy fraction of that cost.

"Dustin" wrote in
:

Thanks for the input you two

I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs, I got a better
discount since I am friends with the manager, 599.00 Im guessing that
is a good price

Any suggestions for lighting this for plant growth?
Thanks!
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual,
gives excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not
then I appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I
find that even though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank, 25
inches is not insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to terrace.
In addition, I personally think that less than 24 inches looks a
little funny with a canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a
canopy over the top of the tank-- but assess how you think it may
look with the shallower tank in the event you do want a canopy. Keep
in mind also that there may be plants

that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain
sections

of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you may
have trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small
person, then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep for
you to reach into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching
the bottom of my 135 gallon tank. I do not have a problem with this
depth-- though any deeper would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25
inches may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for
the
planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my buck?
any
mail
orders, or something to that effect?

Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with
the 75 gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference
is the
75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank deeper
than
24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You
wouldn't
think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because
light
intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the tank
is

that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!).
I've
heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they
reached

into
a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant got
into
the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical.
The
shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a chain
like
PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a loss
in
hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc.
Call
around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge

hundreds
of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here all

wanted
$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo
asked
$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/








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Chuck Gadd
 
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 02:38:34 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Yea thats american, hood / canapy / solid oak stand / tank.

Bad price?



Sounds like a reasonable price to me. If you are into DIY, then it's
possible to build your own stand and canopy and save a few bucks.


Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua
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Old 20-04-2003, 07:16 AM
kush
 
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Moose wrote ...

You could've easily made your own ...


I've never attempted to build a big tank because of the bracing - as far as
I'm concerned, if I spend a hundred bucks on a tank, what I'm really paying
for is that molded plastic frame.

Does anyone have a link to a good DIY plan for a big tank?

kush

"You can't have everything - where would you put it?"




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I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs,

Congratulations! A 125 is a nice size for plants, IMO. Six feet long, 18"
wide, just under 2 feet deep. With this size, you can use just about any
lighting you want. Though, price-wise, flourescent tubes might make the most
sense.

Are you getting a compressed CO2 system for the tank, too? If not, it's
probably best to keep your lighting levels down at around 2 wpg. 125 gallon is
sort of large for DIY!

Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/
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Moose
 
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The stand and hood make it a little less ugly. I thought you were talking
just about the tank. I still prefer the DIY method though... Come
January, I'll get to set up 3x100g tanks w/ rack system for nothing more
than time. Oh, and I'll have to buy some silicon. And a couple of
valves probably. But it's not going to cost me thousands like it would if
I bought it from a store

"Dustin" wrote in news:v0t9p199urvoa8
@corp.supernews.com:

Yea thats american, hood / canapy / solid oak stand / tank.

Bad price?



"Moose" wrote in message
.159...
Jeepers. I hope that's not american $... that's a heck of a lot of $

to
spend on a 125g tank. You could've easily made your own for a small

tiny
itsy fraction of that cost.

"Dustin" wrote in
:

Thanks for the input you two

I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs, I got a better
discount since I am friends with the manager, 599.00 Im guessing

that
is a good price

Any suggestions for lighting this for plant growth?
Thanks!
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
I have a 135 gallon tank that is 24 inches high. Leigh, as usual,
gives excellent adivce. She (I hope you are a she Leigh-- if not
then I appologise in advance..) is right about the light, though I
find that even though its tougher to light the bottom of the tank,

25
inches is not insurmoutable-- especially if you are going to

terrace.
In addition, I personally think that less than 24 inches looks a
little funny with a canopy. You may (or may not) choose to place a
canopy over the top of the tank-- but assess how you think it may
look with the shallower tank in the event you do want a canopy.

Keep
in mind also that there may be plants
that
you want to keep that get tall. It may be nice to have certain
sections
of
the tank that are deeper than others. Just keep in mind that you

may
have trouble with high light plants in the deep areas.

Certainly the "long arms" issue is real also. If you are a small
person, then you may want to avoid buying a tank that is too deep

for
you to reach into. I know my wife would have a hard time reaching
the bottom of my 135 gallon tank. I do not have a problem with

this
depth-- though any deeper would become a hassel.

In summay, my cutoff would be about 24 inches-- not 21 inches. 25
inches may be problematic, but its worthy of careful consideration.

For what its worth, that is my 2 cents. -Bruce Geist

LeighMo wrote in message
...
Id like a 75 or 90 from all-glass. Which of these is better for
the
planted
aquarium in yoru optinion, and where is the best tank for my

buck?
any
mail
orders, or something to that effect?

Ordinarily, bigger is better, but for a planted tank, I'd go with
the 75 gallon.
The 90 and the 75 have the same "footprint." The only difference
is the
75 is
21" high, and the 90 is just over 25" high. A planted tank

deeper
than
24" can
be difficult. That depth is hard to light adequately. (You
wouldn't
think
only a few inches would make a difference, but it does, because
light
intensity
falls exponentially with distance.)

A planted tank also requires constant maintenance, and if the

tank
is
that
deep, it will be difficult (unless you have really long arms!).
I've
heard of
people who accidentally poisoned all their fish, because they
reached
into
a
deep tank without showering first, and their underarm deodorant

got
into
the
tank.

As for price...mail order for a tank this size is not economical.
The
shipping
will kill you. Your best bet is probably to order it from a

chain
like
PetCo.
The big chains use tanks as "loss leaders," selling them at a

loss
in
hopes
that they'll make it up by selling you fish, accessories, etc.
Call
around
your LFSs and ask, but IME, the small local shops will all charge
hundreds
of
dollars more than the big chains. The local shops around here

all
wanted
$700
to $800 for an All-Glass 75 gallon economy tank and stand. PetCo
asked
$325
for tank, stand, and glass canopy top.


Leigh

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Moose
 
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I agree, a lot of the cost is the plastic, but they also use thicker
glass than you really need to, as the plastic doesn't add enough
strength. As I said in another post, I'll be making some big tanks in a
couple of weeks here. They'll be 3/8" glass with angle iron frames, and I
plan on fully photo-documenting the whole process. I'll post a link here
later if you like.

"kush" wrote in
:


Moose wrote ...

You could've easily made your own ...


I've never attempted to build a big tank because of the bracing - as
far as I'm concerned, if I spend a hundred bucks on a tank, what I'm
really paying for is that molded plastic frame.

Does anyone have a link to a good DIY plan for a big tank?

kush

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Old 20-04-2003, 07:16 AM
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Im planning on doing a Co2 setup, yes. If so, what types of lighting would
I need. I would like 3 watts per gallon - or close to it. That is alot of
watts, but should I go with ahsupply's compact florescent, or just the
regular 4 or 6 ft shop type florescent?

Im excited haha

Thanks Everyone for your input

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
I bought a 125 gallon today on sale at the lfs,


Congratulations! A 125 is a nice size for plants, IMO. Six feet long,

18"
wide, just under 2 feet deep. With this size, you can use just about any
lighting you want. Though, price-wise, flourescent tubes might make the

most
sense.

Are you getting a compressed CO2 system for the tank, too? If not, it's
probably best to keep your lighting levels down at around 2 wpg. 125

gallon is
sort of large for DIY!

Leigh

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Cannibul
 
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On Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:43:54 -0800, "Dustin"
wrote:

Im planning on doing a Co2 setup, yes. If so, what types of lighting would
I need. I would like 3 watts per gallon - or close to it. That is alot of
watts, but should I go with ahsupply's compact florescent, or just the
regular 4 or 6 ft shop type florescent?

Im excited haha

Thanks Everyone for your input


I would go with AH Supply kits. The 96 watt kits would fit just
fine on this tank. Say four kits for 384 watts, that would give you
over three watts per gallon, and that is a HUGE amount of light for a
large tank. Many large tanks only run about two watts per gallon.
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