Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required. You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two, to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have a look at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two, to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

Ahh Nice Idea Aqua.

However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you ever have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

Thanks!

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have a look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two, to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two, to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!


Just shove it up the eheim intake, it works like a charm in my 2213. Every
hour or two the canister filter makes a bit of a swishing noise for a couple
of minutes but thats just the impeller chopping up the CO2 bubbles. It's
never woken me up at night. It's probably a good idea to make sure you
clean out your filter every couple of months to prevent crud build up in the
filter which may possibly cause the impeller to stall when swishing the
bubbles which I've read has been known to occur in very rare instances.

Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required. You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two, to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into the
intake line in the tank?

I have an Eheim diffuser. It's actually not much work to clean the ceramic
disk. Takes only a minute. But I'm incredibly lazy. (My boss loves it. I'm
so lazy he can always count on me to come up with the most efficient way of
doing something. ;-)

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Yes, people have tried it. Many people find that injecting directly into the
filter intake is the most effective and lowest-maintenance way of dissolving
CO2 in the tank. The drawbacks are the noise each bubble makes when it hits
the impeller, and the possibility that gas pockets will form inside the filter.
How much of a problem this is probably depends on how much CO2 you are
injecting, and what kind of filter you have. I've heard Eheim filters are more
tolerant of CO2 injection than others, but I have no personal experience. I've
been reluctant to try it, just in case air pockets *are* a problem, and I end
up burning my motor out or something. Especially since I only clean my filter
once every six months...

Reactors are more efficient than diffusors, and silent. The drawback is they
tend to be big and ugly. But I've seen some that are meant to stay outside the
tank. I might try one of those.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/

However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you ever have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

I have seen thousands of very tiny bubbles (much smaller than perling)
coming out of my DJ50. When they move towards the top surface, they disolve
and disappear.

Dominic

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have a look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two,
to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in
the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

I have a ViaAqua canister filter with a CO2 line inserted into a hole
drilled in the top of the strainer at the end of the intake tube. I have
two soda bottles connected to it which I charge, in alternation, every two
weeks. For a day or so after I change a bottle I get the air rush every
hour or so. After that, 100% gets absorbed on the way through - the filter
is oversized, packed with media, and has a slow flow rate.

I also have bottles hooked up to powerheads which work very well, although
not as perfectly or quietly.

I used to have a Rena (POS) in which the bubbles would cause the impeller to
rattle very annoyingly.

kush

"You can't have everything - where would you put it?"

Tasslehoff wrote in message
u...

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or two, to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!


Just shove it up the eheim intake, it works like a charm in my 2213.
Every
hour or two the canister filter makes a bit of a swishing noise for a
couple
of minutes but thats just the impeller chopping up the CO2 bubbles. It's
never woken me up at night. It's probably a good idea to make sure you
clean out your filter every couple of months to prevent crud build up in
the
filter which may possibly cause the impeller to stall when swishing the
bubbles which I've read has been known to occur in very rare instances.

Aqua, is the amount of bubbles produced by the DJ50 overwhelming, as in so
many they are floating all in your tank all the time, or are they produced
every so often? What size tank do you have? I tried sticking my airtube
into the intake of my Eheim 2028, but the amount of bubbles spit out the
outlet was so many, my entire tank (75) was almost filled with tiny bubbles
rising to the top? So I now just have the airtube bubbling to the top until
I find another way to diffuse the bubbles. I will give the DJ50 a try.
I'll also try adjusting the flow rate of the Eheim to see if that helps. I
DIY jugs are producing at least 3 bubbles per second. Does that sound like
too much or just right?

thanks.

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you ever
have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

I have seen thousands of very tiny bubbles (much smaller than perling)
coming out of my DJ50. When they move towards the top surface, they
disolve
and disappear.

Dominic

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have a
look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance
required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or
two,
to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube
into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket in
the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

Well - in my opinion thats too much. I have about 1 bubble per sec on a 90
gallon tank being fed into the intake of a powerhead (802). The bubble this
produces are REALLY fine, and at this rate don't cloud the tank up at all -
infact a most of it is disolved in the first foot or so of the output swash
of the powerhead. I had a reactor for awhile, but I found it just didn't to
as well as the powerhead method. Without changing the bubble rate, I get
around 19 PPM of CO2 in my tank with the powerhead method and with on of
those spiral reactors (the one everyone has) I get around 8 PPM. Big
difference. I have to keep my KH at 80 to maintain the proper PH for my tank
(6.8-7.0). I myself don't like putting it through a canister filter cause of
air pocket buildup - I had that happen once, and when the filter finally
caught the airpocket (it had gotten rather large) it caused the pH in the
tank to fall by .8 (7.0 to 6.2) - I didn't think that was to good.



"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:jaQR9.568936$P31.197394@rwcrnsc53...
Aqua, is the amount of bubbles produced by the DJ50 overwhelming, as in so
many they are floating all in your tank all the time, or are they produced
every so often? What size tank do you have? I tried sticking my airtube
into the intake of my Eheim 2028, but the amount of bubbles spit out the
outlet was so many, my entire tank (75) was almost filled with tiny
bubbles
rising to the top? So I now just have the airtube bubbling to the top
until
I find another way to diffuse the bubbles. I will give the DJ50 a try.
I'll also try adjusting the flow rate of the Eheim to see if that helps.
I
DIY jugs are producing at least 3 bubbles per second. Does that sound
like
too much or just right?

thanks.

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you ever
have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

I have seen thousands of very tiny bubbles (much smaller than perling)
coming out of my DJ50. When they move towards the top surface, they
disolve
and disappear.

Dominic

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have a
look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance
required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or
two,
to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube
into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air pocket
in
the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

What CO2 tester are you using? The only one I can find in the store is a
little plastic deal that hangs inside the tank just under the surface and
has to be refilled with solution/water every so often. I'd rather have a
different kind.

thanks.

"Mentaloid" wrote in message
...
Well - in my opinion thats too much. I have about 1 bubble per sec on a 90
gallon tank being fed into the intake of a powerhead (802). The bubble
this
produces are REALLY fine, and at this rate don't cloud the tank up at
all -
infact a most of it is disolved in the first foot or so of the output
swash
of the powerhead. I had a reactor for awhile, but I found it just didn't
to
as well as the powerhead method. Without changing the bubble rate, I get
around 19 PPM of CO2 in my tank with the powerhead method and with on of
those spiral reactors (the one everyone has) I get around 8 PPM. Big
difference. I have to keep my KH at 80 to maintain the proper PH for my
tank
(6.8-7.0). I myself don't like putting it through a canister filter cause
of
air pocket buildup - I had that happen once, and when the filter finally
caught the airpocket (it had gotten rather large) it caused the pH in the
tank to fall by .8 (7.0 to 6.2) - I didn't think that was to good.



"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:jaQR9.568936$P31.197394@rwcrnsc53...
Aqua, is the amount of bubbles produced by the DJ50 overwhelming, as in
so
many they are floating all in your tank all the time, or are they
produced
every so often? What size tank do you have? I tried sticking my
airtube
into the intake of my Eheim 2028, but the amount of bubbles spit out the
outlet was so many, my entire tank (75) was almost filled with tiny
bubbles
rising to the top? So I now just have the airtube bubbling to the top
until
I find another way to diffuse the bubbles. I will give the DJ50 a try.
I'll also try adjusting the flow rate of the Eheim to see if that helps.
I
DIY jugs are producing at least 3 bubbles per second. Does that sound
like
too much or just right?

thanks.

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you
ever
have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

I have seen thousands of very tiny bubbles (much smaller than perling)
coming out of my DJ50. When they move towards the top surface, they
disolve
and disappear.

Dominic

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have
a
look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or
injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance
required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or
two,
to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube
into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air
pocket
in
the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

My new mixture is producing about 1 bubble every 3 seconds or so. This
might speed up after the yeast mixture has been running for a day or so. I
have inserted the airtube into a powerhead 301 I have for circulation. The
fine bubbles it blows are much better than yesterday using the Eheim intake.
The powerhead only blows bubbles every couple of seconds and you are right,
Mentaloid, most of them absorb into the water within the first 12 inches or
so.

thanks.

"Mentaloid" wrote in message
...
Well - in my opinion thats too much. I have about 1 bubble per sec on a 90
gallon tank being fed into the intake of a powerhead (802). The bubble
this
produces are REALLY fine, and at this rate don't cloud the tank up at
all -
infact a most of it is disolved in the first foot or so of the output
swash
of the powerhead. I had a reactor for awhile, but I found it just didn't
to
as well as the powerhead method. Without changing the bubble rate, I get
around 19 PPM of CO2 in my tank with the powerhead method and with on of
those spiral reactors (the one everyone has) I get around 8 PPM. Big
difference. I have to keep my KH at 80 to maintain the proper PH for my
tank
(6.8-7.0). I myself don't like putting it through a canister filter cause
of
air pocket buildup - I had that happen once, and when the filter finally
caught the airpocket (it had gotten rather large) it caused the pH in the
tank to fall by .8 (7.0 to 6.2) - I didn't think that was to good.



"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:jaQR9.568936$P31.197394@rwcrnsc53...
Aqua, is the amount of bubbles produced by the DJ50 overwhelming, as in
so
many they are floating all in your tank all the time, or are they
produced
every so often? What size tank do you have? I tried sticking my
airtube
into the intake of my Eheim 2028, but the amount of bubbles spit out the
outlet was so many, my entire tank (75) was almost filled with tiny
bubbles
rising to the top? So I now just have the airtube bubbling to the top
until
I find another way to diffuse the bubbles. I will give the DJ50 a try.
I'll also try adjusting the flow rate of the Eheim to see if that helps.
I
DIY jugs are producing at least 3 bubbles per second. Does that sound
like
too much or just right?

thanks.

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you
ever
have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

I have seen thousands of very tiny bubbles (much smaller than perling)
coming out of my DJ50. When they move towards the top surface, they
disolve
and disappear.

Dominic

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser. Have
a
look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or
injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance
required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week or
two,
to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air tube
into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air
pocket
in
the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!

Aqua, is the amount of bubbles produced by the DJ50 overwhelming, as in so
many they are floating all in your tank all the time, or are they produced
every so often? What size tank do you have? I tried sticking my airtube
into the intake of my Eheim 2028, but the amount of bubbles spit out the
outlet was so many, my entire tank (75) was almost filled with tiny
bubbles
rising to the top? So I now just have the airtube bubbling to the top
until
I find another way to diffuse the bubbles. I will give the DJ50 a try.
I'll also try adjusting the flow rate of the Eheim to see if that helps.
I
DIY jugs are producing at least 3 bubbles per second. Does that sound
like
too much or just right?

I have 55Gal fully planted Tank. I am using a Pressurized CO2
(http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html) and current setting is 55 to 60 bubbles
per minute. My DJ50 at the bottom of the tank and near the DJ50 outlet I
have my Eheim 2013's inlet. Due the Eheim's circulation most of those tiny
bubbles dissolves there itself.

The only drawback with DJ50 is you will hear a chopping sound. As this is an
internal filter that sound is very very minimal.

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

I'm using a CO2 table - I just have to have a fairly accurate PH and KH test
to figure it out - I forget where I got the information.. probably on
thekrib.com somewhere.

"SlimFlem" wrote in message
.net...
What CO2 tester are you using? The only one I can find in the store is a
little plastic deal that hangs inside the tank just under the surface and
has to be refilled with solution/water every so often. I'd rather have a
different kind.

thanks.

"Mentaloid" wrote in message
...
Well - in my opinion thats too much. I have about 1 bubble per sec on a
90
gallon tank being fed into the intake of a powerhead (802). The bubble
this
produces are REALLY fine, and at this rate don't cloud the tank up at
all -
infact a most of it is disolved in the first foot or so of the output
swash
of the powerhead. I had a reactor for awhile, but I found it just didn't
to
as well as the powerhead method. Without changing the bubble rate, I get
around 19 PPM of CO2 in my tank with the powerhead method and with on of
those spiral reactors (the one everyone has) I get around 8 PPM. Big
difference. I have to keep my KH at 80 to maintain the proper PH for my
tank
(6.8-7.0). I myself don't like putting it through a canister filter
cause
of
air pocket buildup - I had that happen once, and when the filter finally
caught the airpocket (it had gotten rather large) it caused the pH in
the
tank to fall by .8 (7.0 to 6.2) - I didn't think that was to good.



"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:jaQR9.568936$P31.197394@rwcrnsc53...
Aqua, is the amount of bubbles produced by the DJ50 overwhelming, as
in
so
many they are floating all in your tank all the time, or are they
produced
every so often? What size tank do you have? I tried sticking my
airtube
into the intake of my Eheim 2028, but the amount of bubbles spit out
the
outlet was so many, my entire tank (75) was almost filled with tiny
bubbles
rising to the top? So I now just have the airtube bubbling to the top
until
I find another way to diffuse the bubbles. I will give the DJ50 a
try.
I'll also try adjusting the flow rate of the Eheim to see if that
helps.
I
DIY jugs are producing at least 3 bubbles per second. Does that sound
like
too much or just right?

thanks.

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
However, How well does it disolve the co2 into the water? do you
ever
have
any wasted bubbles come out of the filter?

I have seen thousands of very tiny bubbles (much smaller than
perling)
coming out of my DJ50. When they move towards the top surface, they
disolve
and disappear.

Dominic

"Aqua" wrote in message
...
I am using Duetto Internal Filter (DJ50) as my CO2 diffuser.
Have
a
look
at
it at
http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua

"Dustin" wrote in message
...
Ok Ive started a new thread

Leigh Stated earlier
"I am considering switching to some kind of reactor, or
injecting
directly
into the filter intake, in hopes of lowering the maintenance
required.
You
do have to rinse the Eheim diffusor's ceramic disk every week
or
two,
to
keep the CO2 bubble size small."

Is the eheim made for this, or are you just putting the air
tube
into
the
intake line in the tank?

I have a Magnum 350, would the gas just create a large air
pocket
in
the
canister, or would it be disolved? Anyone tried this?

Thanks!