Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant leaves and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products once my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com says for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice improvements in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state now that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse

SlimFlem wrote:

Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant leaves and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

While all the stem plants and riccia grow like crazy in my tank, the swords
develop holes in their leaves, mostly at the tips. Because I dose two forms of
K, I am pretty sure that's not it in my case. I solve it by placing Jobes
Palm/Fern root spikes under the swords. Nothing else in the tank gets root tabs,
just the swords.

If you have a place or other sucker-mouth fish, this may be the cause of
holes in your broadleaf plants..

-Bruce Geist
"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:by6T9.488021$pN3.53908@sccrnsc03...
Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant leaves
and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products once
my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com says for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of
results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice improvements
in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state now that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse

My spell checker got the best of me.. replace the word "place" with "pleco".

If you have a pleco, beware. -Bruce
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message news:...
If you have a place or other sucker-mouth fish, this may be the cause of
holes in your broadleaf plants..

-Bruce Geist
"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:by6T9.488021$pN3.53908@sccrnsc03...
Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant leaves
and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of
you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products
once
my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com says
for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well
about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of
results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice improvements
in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state now
that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse

I have 4 adult Otto's, 3 SAE, and 1 large Whiptail. Do you think the
Whiptail could be doing this? I didn't think they would do this. Also,
once a hole appears, the Clown Loaches start eating at it and make it
bigger. I think a lot of this will go away when I get my PMDD going as soon
as the rest of my ingredients come in. I got the Plantex CSM today. )

My melon sword put up a new marron'ish/red leave over the past couple of
days and it too has some small holes in it. About 4 days ago, I put some
SeaChem Florish tablets under the roots of all 4 of my Swords hoping that
helps.

"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
My spell checker got the best of me.. replace the word "place" with
"pleco".

If you have a pleco, beware. -Bruce
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message news:...
If you have a place or other sucker-mouth fish, this may be the cause of
holes in your broadleaf plants..

-Bruce Geist
"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:by6T9.488021$pN3.53908@sccrnsc03...
Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant
leaves
and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of
you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I
have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products
once
my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com says
for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well
about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of
results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice
improvements
in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state now
that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse

It's the ottos. Mine are incorrigible - I beg and I plead, but the little
*******s WILL keep at it.

SlimFlem wrote in message
news:P1JT9.3757$Dn.482@sccrnsc03...
I have 4 adult Otto's, 3 SAE, and 1 large Whiptail. Do you think the
Whiptail could be doing this? I didn't think they would do this. Also,
once a hole appears, the Clown Loaches start eating at it and make it
bigger. I think a lot of this will go away when I get my PMDD going as
soon
as the rest of my ingredients come in. I got the Plantex CSM today. )

My melon sword put up a new marron'ish/red leave over the past couple of
days and it too has some small holes in it. About 4 days ago, I put some
SeaChem Florish tablets under the roots of all 4 of my Swords hoping that
helps.

"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
My spell checker got the best of me.. replace the word "place" with
"pleco".

If you have a pleco, beware. -Bruce
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message news:...
If you have a place or other sucker-mouth fish, this may be the cause
of
holes in your broadleaf plants..

-Bruce Geist
"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:by6T9.488021$pN3.53908@sccrnsc03...
Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant
leaves
and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some
of
you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I
have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the
recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products
once
my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com
says
for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well
about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of
results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice
improvements
in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state
now
that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse

PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO, PLECO,
PLECO!!!!!!

Hahahahahaha die pleco die die die!!!!!

Bruce Geist wrote in message
...
My spell checker got the best of me.. replace the word "place" with
"pleco".

If you have a pleco, beware. -Bruce
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message news:...
If you have a place or other sucker-mouth fish, this may be the cause of
holes in your broadleaf plants..

-Bruce Geist
"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:by6T9.488021$pN3.53908@sccrnsc03...
Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant
leaves
and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of
you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I
have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products
once
my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com says
for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well
about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of
results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice
improvements
in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state now
that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse

On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:43:49 GMT, "kush"
wrote:

It's the ottos. Mine are incorrigible - I beg and I plead, but the little
*******s WILL keep at it.

I've never seen otos damage any plants. They are too small to do any
damage. I've got plenty of big broad-leafed crypts, and they never
get any damage.



Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

Mine never eat crypts, either (actually, come to think of it, nothing eats
my crypts - why don't I just grow crypts?). But the ottos make pinholes in
the swords and large H. corymbosa leaves and, very occasionally, the sags.
These are the only three things (so far as I've noticed) that they damage.

kush

Chuck Gadd wrote in message
...
On Sat, 11 Jan 2003 00:43:49 GMT, "kush"
wrote:

It's the ottos. Mine are incorrigible - I beg and I plead, but the little
*******s WILL keep at it.

I've never seen otos damage any plants. They are too small to do any
damage. I've got plenty of big broad-leafed crypts, and they never
get any damage.



Chuck Gadd
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua

On Thu, 09 Jan 2003 04:05:28 GMT, "SlimFlem"
wrote:

Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant leaves and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some of you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products once my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com says for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice improvements in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state now that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse



Go here for my thoughts on PMDD
http://www.aquabotanic.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2360

And then go here for help with fertilizers
http://www.aquabotanic.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=2198

In general the PMDD formula doesn't provide near enough Potassium.
Potassium should be at around 20 ppm. That means 20 ml of the Seachem
product for every 10 gallons. Use dry K2SO4 to dose Potassium.

I am pretty sure that if you are not now having trouble with your Whiptail
(Rineloricaria lanceolata), you soon will. I would seriously consider
getting this guy a new home. At the very least, check on him at night to see
if he is on the plants.. I have heard that this fish will eat plants,
especially as they get larger.

I have not ever observed my ottos damaging my plants, though I have the very
small variety of Ottos commonly called Golden Ottos (Otocinclus affinis).
It is possible the larger Ottos are more prone to damaging plants.

I have a bristlenose pleco (Ancistrus sp.) that is quite destructive to my
large Amazon swords. Some people report that their bristlenose plecos do
fine in a planted tank. I have not been so lucky.

By the way, I have 3 clown loaches (Botia macracanthus) as well. Some
participants in this newsgroup claim clowns can be destructive to plants.
This has not been my experience, so far anyway. It is interesting that you
are having trouble with your clowns. Possibly as my loaches get bigger, I
will have trouble. My loaches are now about 4 inches or less in length.
These are very close to my favorite fish around, so I hope they remain well
behaved. -Bruce

"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:P1JT9.3757$Dn.482@sccrnsc03...
I have 4 adult Otto's, 3 SAE, and 1 large Whiptail. Do you think the
Whiptail could be doing this? I didn't think they would do this. Also,
once a hole appears, the Clown Loaches start eating at it and make it
bigger. I think a lot of this will go away when I get my PMDD going as
soon
as the rest of my ingredients come in. I got the Plantex CSM today. )

My melon sword put up a new marron'ish/red leave over the past couple of
days and it too has some small holes in it. About 4 days ago, I put some
SeaChem Florish tablets under the roots of all 4 of my Swords hoping that
helps.

"Bruce Geist" wrote in message
...
My spell checker got the best of me.. replace the word "place" with
"pleco".

If you have a pleco, beware. -Bruce
"Bruce Geist" wrote in message news:...
If you have a place or other sucker-mouth fish, this may be the cause
of
holes in your broadleaf plants..

-Bruce Geist
"SlimFlem" wrote in message
news:by6T9.488021$pN3.53908@sccrnsc03...
Hi.

I am seeing some holes developing in some of my older Sword plant
leaves
and
have read this is due to K deficiency. Is this accurate? Can some
of
you
please share your experience of dosing with Potassium? Currently I
have
SeaChem's Potassium Supplement and use it at not quite the
recommended
dosage. What other factors could lead to a low K level?

Can you recommend a good, accurate K test kit?

Also, I am planning on stopping to use SeaChem's fertilizer products
once
my
ingridients for PMDD comes in. I have followed what thekrib.com
says
for
what to get and will be following the advice from this site as well
about
how to dose. Any experience here will be appreciated.

For anyone that is using the PMDD mixing from The Krib, what kind of
results
are you getting, and how long did it take for you to notice
improvements
in
your plants? What was there before state and what is there state
now
that
you have been dosing PMDD?

When dosing PMDD, did you stop other 3rd party fertilizers?

Thanks,
Jesse