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Snail Control
OK, I can't pick out the pond snails by hand anymore. Here is the
situation: heavily planted 55 gallon community tank. The smallest things in it are amano shrimp and pygmy cories (1"). I need something to control the snails, prefereably something that won't eat those guys I just mentioned. Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Now, here are the best ideas that I've come up with: 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? 3) Dwarf puffers. Actaully I had them, but I like to take every oppurtunity I can to say these are NOT community fishies, unless you really know what you're doing. There's not many good tankmates for these guys. 4) Any other ideas? I'm open to anything. Anyways, thanks in advance |
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"redled" wrote in message . .. OK, I can't pick out the pond snails by hand anymore. Here is the situation: heavily planted 55 gallon community tank. The smallest things in it are amano shrimp and pygmy cories (1"). I need something to control the snails, prefereably something that won't eat those guys I just mentioned. Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Now, here are the best ideas that I've come up with: 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? Yoyos and Botia Histrionica do a good job. Neither of them are trouble makes in my tanks. My yoyos are up to 3.5" since I got them. Shouldn't get over 5". 3) Dwarf puffers. Actaully I had them, but I like to take every oppurtunity I can to say these are NOT community fishies, unless you really know what you're doing. There's not many good tankmates for these guys. 4) Any other ideas? I'm open to anything. I used to have a small and very agressive swordtail that was death on pnd snails. I also just read a note from someone somewhere about a 4" pleco that ate snails. Bob |
Snail Control
Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and
hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Not a Columbian ramshorn, is it? The ones that get to be 1" or bigger? They are terrible plant-eaters. 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? They will eat snails. But not enough to control the population. They can also be quite predatory with small fish. 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? Kuhli loaches will eat snails. Loaches in general do a great job on snails. Unfortuantely, they won't just eat the pond snails. They can even kill snails much larger than themselves. 4) Any other ideas? I'm open to anything. You could try trapping them. Bait them with a slice of zucchini or lettuce leaf in a jar. Or you could just live with the pond snails. If you don't mind ramshorms and MTS, why not pond snails, too? IME, they don't do any harm, and are terrific algae eaters. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
Snail Control
My yo-yo loaches ate all the snails (_physa_) but two that are managing to stay
above the water line. the loaches also ate the eggs. also, this site has some nice information and options: http://www.tomgriffin.com/aquamag/snail.html#_edn1 AcH redled wrote: OK, I can't pick out the pond snails by hand anymore. Here is the situation: heavily planted 55 gallon community tank. The smallest things in it are amano shrimp and pygmy cories (1"). I need something to control the snails, prefereably something that won't eat those guys I just mentioned. Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Now, here are the best ideas that I've come up with: 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? 3) Dwarf puffers. Actaully I had them, but I like to take every oppurtunity I can to say these are NOT community fishies, unless you really know what you're doing. There's not many good tankmates for these guys. 4) Any other ideas? I'm open to anything. Anyways, thanks in advance |
Snail Control
I have had great success with Pakistani Loaches (Yo-Yo), I have a few bigger
snails which they don't seem to touch. I did have one problem with them: I had so many snails that they were killing them without eating the entire snail, this in turn caused a "slight emergency" with polluted water. I only realised this when I noticed dozens of half eaten snails floating on the surface. It should be noted that I had a "snail plague", the gravel in the tank appeared to move there were so many!!!! I now drop in a few shrimp pallets every now and then to make up for the lack of snails. "redled" wrote in message . .. OK, I can't pick out the pond snails by hand anymore. Here is the situation: heavily planted 55 gallon community tank. The smallest things in it are amano shrimp and pygmy cories (1"). I need something to control the snails, prefereably something that won't eat those guys I just mentioned. Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Now, here are the best ideas that I've come up with: 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? 3) Dwarf puffers. Actaully I had them, but I like to take every oppurtunity I can to say these are NOT community fishies, unless you really know what you're doing. There's not many good tankmates for these guys. 4) Any other ideas? I'm open to anything. Anyways, thanks in advance |
Snail Control
"Robert Flory" wrote in
.com: Mid posted "redled" wrote in message . .. OK, I can't pick out the pond snails by hand anymore. Here is the situation: heavily planted 55 gallon community tank. The smallest things in it are amano shrimp and pygmy cories (1"). I need something to control the snails, prefereably something that won't eat those guys I just mentioned. Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Now, here are the best ideas that I've come up with: 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? Yoyos and Botia Histrionica do a good job. Neither of them are trouble makes in my tanks. My yoyos are up to 3.5" since I got them. Shouldn't get over 5". Thanks. I'll look into those. |
Snail Control
I have a 5 1/2" Pleco, Angilecus, and he has shown no interest in the
small cone shapped snails which have appeared after buying some plants. On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:39:51 GMT, "Robert Flory" wrote: I used to have a small and very agressive swordtail that was death on pnd snails. I also just read a note from someone somewhere about a 4" pleco that ate snails. |
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Predatory ghost shrimp? what do you people have? I had a guppy in a 20g with
50+ ghost shrimp. Guppy is just fine, how much smaller than a guppy can you get? "LeighMo" wrote in message ... Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Not a Columbian ramshorn, is it? The ones that get to be 1" or bigger? They are terrible plant-eaters. 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? They will eat snails. But not enough to control the population. They can also be quite predatory with small fish. 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? Kuhli loaches will eat snails. Loaches in general do a great job on snails. Unfortuantely, they won't just eat the pond snails. They can even kill snails much larger than themselves. 4) Any other ideas? I'm open to anything. You could try trapping them. Bait them with a slice of zucchini or lettuce leaf in a jar. Or you could just live with the pond snails. If you don't mind ramshorms and MTS, why not pond snails, too? IME, they don't do any harm, and are terrific algae eaters. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
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Not a Columbian ramshorn, is it? The ones that get to be 1" or
bigger? They are terrible plant-eaters. I have no idea. Mine is almost 3" in diameter but appears to have stopped growing. I've never seen it eat plants. How long do these things live? Mine is starting to slow down and close his trap door lots. If they're like apple snails, they live 18 months to three years, depending on temperature. The cooler the water, the longer the snail lives. It sounds like you have a Columbian ramshorn. They often have pretty white or yellow stripes that follow the spiral of their brown shells. But they really aren't suited for a planted tank. They eat plants like crazy. Hmm, interesting. They are eating my plants quite a bit right now, but I suspect that's because I've been neglecting some of the plants...I think they are dead before the snails start to eat them. That could be. Or it might be that the Columbian ramshorn is damaging the plants, and the pond snails are moving in to chomp on the leftovers. If you have another tank, you might try moving the ramshorn to it, and see if that helps. IME, Columbian ramshorns cause far more damage to plants than pond snails. If the pond snails are eating healthy plants, then they are very hungry indeed. They should be easy to trap, with a lettuce leaf or slice of zucchini. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
Snail Control
Predatory ghost shrimp? what do you people have? I had a guppy in a 20g with
50+ ghost shrimp. Guppy is just fine, how much smaller than a guppy can you get? Guppy fry. Ghost shrimp can easily hunt and kill livebearer fry. I've also heard reports of them attacking small neon tetras. They bite them behind the head, at the spine, to immoblize them. And Frank Greco recently posted to the Freshwater Shrimp list, warning that he's seen ghost shrimp attack bettas. He's had two male Betta splendens killed by ghost shrimp. The ghost shrimp attach themselves to the betta's fins, rip off pieces, and eat them. (I suspect bettas are more vulnerable than guppies, because they're so slow.) I always thought ghost shrimp were harmless. And so did Frank. I'd heard stories of them attacking fish, but always assumed that it was the similar-looking Macrobrachium species to blame. But Frank knows his shrimp. If he says they're ghost shrimp, they're ghost shrimp. They are far more predatory than I realized. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
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Hmm, I might add a few pennies worth of comment here,
I've recently had great success with peacock gudgeons (gobies) I had a major infestation in the 20G tank, and scored 4 in auction to raise out and within a few days I noticed that I had no more snails left. redled wrote in : "Robert Flory" wrote in .com: Mid posted "redled" wrote in message . .. OK, I can't pick out the pond snails by hand anymore. Here is the situation: heavily planted 55 gallon community tank. The smallest things in it are amano shrimp and pygmy cories (1"). I need something to control the snails, prefereably something that won't eat those guys I just mentioned. Also, I have a large ramshorn snail I'd like to keep and hundreds of MTS that I would really like to keep (I think the population is healthy enough that It would be hard to get rid of them, though.) Now, here are the best ideas that I've come up with: 1) Lots of ghost shrimp. Will these eat snail eggs? 2) Some kind of small loach. I'm having a hard time finding specific references to non-clown loaches abilities to do this. How are kuhlie loaches? Yoyos and Botia Histrionica do a good job. Neither of them are trouble makes in my tanks. My yoyos are up to 3.5" since I got them. Shouldn't get over 5". Thanks. I'll look into those. |
Snail Control
conical eh? Malaysian trumpet snails, great for churning the substrate,
nice nocturnal snails for planted tanks, someone tell my snails that they are out in the day time ontop of the black sand, moving through it etc. Norting will eat them, not my clown's not the pleco's nada. Dick wrote in : I have a 5 1/2" Pleco, Angilecus, and he has shown no interest in the small cone shapped snails which have appeared after buying some plants. On Fri, 25 Apr 2003 00:39:51 GMT, "Robert Flory" wrote: I used to have a small and very agressive swordtail that was death on pnd snails. I also just read a note from someone somewhere about a 4" pleco that ate snails. |
Snail Control
Just as a comment, Ive seen far more bettas eat ghost shrimp then ghost shrimp eat
bettas. LeighMo wrote: Predatory ghost shrimp? what do you people have? I had a guppy in a 20g with 50+ ghost shrimp. Guppy is just fine, how much smaller than a guppy can you get? Guppy fry. Ghost shrimp can easily hunt and kill livebearer fry. I've also heard reports of them attacking small neon tetras. They bite them behind the head, at the spine, to immoblize them. And Frank Greco recently posted to the Freshwater Shrimp list, warning that he's seen ghost shrimp attack bettas. He's had two male Betta splendens killed by ghost shrimp. The ghost shrimp attach themselves to the betta's fins, rip off pieces, and eat them. (I suspect bettas are more vulnerable than guppies, because they're so slow.) I always thought ghost shrimp were harmless. And so did Frank. I'd heard stories of them attacking fish, but always assumed that it was the similar-looking Macrobrachium species to blame. But Frank knows his shrimp. If he says they're ghost shrimp, they're ghost shrimp. They are far more predatory than I realized. Leigh http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/ |
Snail Control
Haywire wrote in
5.104: Hmm, I might add a few pennies worth of comment here, I've recently had great success with peacock gudgeons (gobies) I had a major infestation in the 20G tank, and scored 4 in auction to raise out and within a few days I noticed that I had no more snails left. I think I will try these |
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