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Skunky 06-05-2003 10:07 PM

Substrate heating
 
Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a compacted substrate, through means of convection?

BuddyGardner 07-05-2003 02:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
dont' waste your money....

Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a compacted
substrate, through means of convection?





Christopher 07-05-2003 05:32 PM

Substrate heating
 
is this the rational behind buying a substrate heater?

"BuddyGardner" wrote in message
...
dont' waste your money....

Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a compacted
substrate, through means of convection?







07-05-2003 05:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
sorry I didn't elaborate, but what I've read is that the current created by
the substrate heaters in concurrance with turbulence created by HOT filters
negate any postive affect a SH can offer...

is that better? I dont' have any reference for this, just what I've read
over the last 2.5 years or so....

"Christopher" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
is this the rational behind buying a substrate heater?

"BuddyGardner" wrote in message
...
dont' waste your money....

Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a

compacted
substrate, through means of convection?









Harry Muscle 07-05-2003 06:56 PM

Substrate heating
 
wrote in message ...
sorry I didn't elaborate, but what I've read is that the current created

by
the substrate heaters in concurrance with turbulence created by HOT

filters
negate any postive affect a SH can offer...

is that better? I dont' have any reference for this, just what I've read
over the last 2.5 years or so....


Are you saying that a HOT filter defeats having a substrate heater, or that
a HOT filter does the same thing a substrate heater is suposed to?

Harry




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07-05-2003 08:56 PM

Substrate heating
 
sorry I didn't elaborate, but what I've read is that the current created
by
the substrate heaters in concurrance with turbulence created by HOT

filters
negate any postive affect a SH can offer...

is that better? I dont' have any reference for this, just what I've

read
over the last 2.5 years or so....


Are you saying that a HOT filter defeats having a substrate heater, or

that
a HOT filter does the same thing a substrate heater is suposed to?


What I read, was saying that the uplifting currents created by a substrate
heater, has to battle the downstream current put off by a HOT filter... heat
rises, HOT flows down.... the uplifting current is only affective for the
lower 1/3 to 1/4 of the tank, which means, what is pulled out of the gravel,
is put back in the gravel somewhere else...



Skunky 07-05-2003 09:25 PM

Well, I guess that saved me a bit more money!

07-05-2003 09:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
I only knew of 1 person that had one.. for about a year, until it went out,
then they lost the whole tank due to a huge temp swing... you can't see that
it's not working... you have to feel the tank... atleast on hers it didn't
have an indicator or light that said, I'm working....


"Skunky" wrote in message
...

Well, I guess that saved me a bit more money!


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Christopher 07-05-2003 09:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
what is a HOT filter?

wrote in message ...
sorry I didn't elaborate, but what I've read is that the current

created
by
the substrate heaters in concurrance with turbulence created by HOT

filters
negate any postive affect a SH can offer...

is that better? I dont' have any reference for this, just what I've

read
over the last 2.5 years or so....


Are you saying that a HOT filter defeats having a substrate heater, or

that
a HOT filter does the same thing a substrate heater is suposed to?


What I read, was saying that the uplifting currents created by a substrate
heater, has to battle the downstream current put off by a HOT filter...

heat
rises, HOT flows down.... the uplifting current is only affective for the
lower 1/3 to 1/4 of the tank, which means, what is pulled out of the

gravel,
is put back in the gravel somewhere else...






DWS 08-05-2003 05:08 AM

Substrate heating
 
Hang On Tank

"Christopher" wrote in message
rthlink.net...
what is a HOT filter?

wrote in message ...
sorry I didn't elaborate, but what I've read is that the current

created
by
the substrate heaters in concurrance with turbulence created by HOT
filters
negate any postive affect a SH can offer...

is that better? I dont' have any reference for this, just what I've

read
over the last 2.5 years or so....

Are you saying that a HOT filter defeats having a substrate heater, or

that
a HOT filter does the same thing a substrate heater is suposed to?


What I read, was saying that the uplifting currents created by a

substrate
heater, has to battle the downstream current put off by a HOT filter...

heat
rises, HOT flows down.... the uplifting current is only affective for

the
lower 1/3 to 1/4 of the tank, which means, what is pulled out of the

gravel,
is put back in the gravel somewhere else...








Harry Muscle 08-05-2003 02:20 PM

Substrate heating
 
"Skunky" wrote in message
...

Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a compacted
substrate, through means of convection?


--
Skunky

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Here's a nice article outlining what heating coils are good for.

http://aquaticconcepts.thekrib.com/Shc/index.htm

Enjoy,
Harry




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Sam Hopkins 08-05-2003 09:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
? I wouldn't think there would be enough temp difference to cause
stratification from either. 8' deep ponds in the summer don't even strat.


wrote in message ...
sorry I didn't elaborate, but what I've read is that the current

created
by
the substrate heaters in concurrance with turbulence created by HOT

filters
negate any postive affect a SH can offer...

is that better? I dont' have any reference for this, just what I've

read
over the last 2.5 years or so....


Are you saying that a HOT filter defeats having a substrate heater, or

that
a HOT filter does the same thing a substrate heater is suposed to?


What I read, was saying that the uplifting currents created by a substrate
heater, has to battle the downstream current put off by a HOT filter...

heat
rises, HOT flows down.... the uplifting current is only affective for the
lower 1/3 to 1/4 of the tank, which means, what is pulled out of the

gravel,
is put back in the gravel somewhere else...





Christopher 09-05-2003 07:20 AM

Substrate heating
 
didn't she have a thermometer?

wrote in message ...
I only knew of 1 person that had one.. for about a year, until it went

out,
then they lost the whole tank due to a huge temp swing... you can't see

that
it's not working... you have to feel the tank... atleast on hers it didn't
have an indicator or light that said, I'm working....


"Skunky" wrote in message
...

Well, I guess that saved me a bit more money!


--
Skunky

'Peace On Earth.....And In The Water'
------------------------------------------------------------------------
posted via www.GardenBanter.co.uk



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BuddyGardner 17-07-2003 08:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
dont' waste your money....

Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a compacted
substrate, through means of convection?





Christopher 17-07-2003 08:44 PM

Substrate heating
 
is this the rational behind buying a substrate heater?

"BuddyGardner" wrote in message
...
dont' waste your money....

Can using substrate heating eliminate Anaerobic activity in a compacted
substrate, through means of convection?








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