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Old 18-02-2003, 11:36 AM
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I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.



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Old 18-02-2003, 12:27 PM
LeighMo
 
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I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.


Trim it. I trim any leaves that start looking unattractive. The plant will
put out new ones.





Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/
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Old 18-02-2003, 12:27 PM
LeighMo
 
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I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.


Trim it. I trim any leaves that start looking unattractive. The plant will
put out new ones.





Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/
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Old 19-02-2003, 12:54 AM
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When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually start
looking "rotting"

should I worry about this, and try to go back in and trim it closer to base
(I physically have trouble reaching it since the tank is too deep and either
I can't quite see what I'm cutting, or can't reach it)? or leave it as-is?

the sword plant is about 18" in height right now (very tall). tank is about
22" deep..

linda

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and

it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones

near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.


Trim it. I trim any leaves that start looking unattractive. The plant

will
put out new ones.





Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/



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Old 19-02-2003, 12:54 AM
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When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually start
looking "rotting"

should I worry about this, and try to go back in and trim it closer to base
(I physically have trouble reaching it since the tank is too deep and either
I can't quite see what I'm cutting, or can't reach it)? or leave it as-is?

the sword plant is about 18" in height right now (very tall). tank is about
22" deep..

linda

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and

it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones

near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.


Trim it. I trim any leaves that start looking unattractive. The plant

will
put out new ones.





Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/





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Old 19-02-2003, 12:18 PM
Tasslehoff
 
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"linda mar" wrote in message
...
When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually start
looking "rotting"

should I worry about this, and try to go back in and trim it closer to

base
(I physically have trouble reaching it since the tank is too deep and

either
I can't quite see what I'm cutting, or can't reach it)? or leave it as-is?

the sword plant is about 18" in height right now (very tall). tank is

about
22" deep..

linda

If the plant is bigger and greener than when you first got it I probably
wouldn't worry too much about getting the whole stub although mine seemed
woody and almost garden fern like when I snipped the browning leaf. Could
this damage fishes slime coat/scales?


"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and

it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones

near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.


Trim it. I trim any leaves that start looking unattractive. The plant

will
put out new ones.


Leigh


Thanks Leigh.


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Old 19-02-2003, 12:18 PM
Tasslehoff
 
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"linda mar" wrote in message
...
When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually start
looking "rotting"

should I worry about this, and try to go back in and trim it closer to

base
(I physically have trouble reaching it since the tank is too deep and

either
I can't quite see what I'm cutting, or can't reach it)? or leave it as-is?

the sword plant is about 18" in height right now (very tall). tank is

about
22" deep..

linda

If the plant is bigger and greener than when you first got it I probably
wouldn't worry too much about getting the whole stub although mine seemed
woody and almost garden fern like when I snipped the browning leaf. Could
this damage fishes slime coat/scales?


"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
I've had my small compact(when I bought it) sword for 6 months now and

it's
doubled in size and number of leaves but one of the older leaves has
died(completely brown). Should I trim this leaf and future dead ones

near
the base or let it rot and fall off on its own.


Trim it. I trim any leaves that start looking unattractive. The plant

will
put out new ones.


Leigh


Thanks Leigh.


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Old 19-02-2003, 05:53 PM
kush
 
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linda mar wrote ...

When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which ...


What happens, as the plant gets older, is that the new growth from the
center forces the old growth (and old prune scars) outward and downward so
that, eventually, the stubs of the outer leaves end up horizontal.
Typically, the build-up of sediment and detritus (at least in the wild)
covers it, roots emerge, and the crown of the plant is raised to a higher
position.


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Old 19-02-2003, 05:53 PM
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linda mar wrote ...

When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which ...


What happens, as the plant gets older, is that the new growth from the
center forces the old growth (and old prune scars) outward and downward so
that, eventually, the stubs of the outer leaves end up horizontal.
Typically, the build-up of sediment and detritus (at least in the wild)
covers it, roots emerge, and the crown of the plant is raised to a higher
position.


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Old 20-02-2003, 03:58 AM
LeighMo
 
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When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually start
looking "rotting"


It's unattractive, but it's not harmful. I sometimes leave long stubs when I'm
in a hurry (usually in the morning, heading for work). No time to take off my
shirt so it doesn't get wet when I'm up to my armpit in the tank. g
Sometimes I go back and trim them shorter later, sometimes I leave them . If
I'm planning to take a photo of the tank, I usually trim all the stems down as
far as I can, just so it looks nicer.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/


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Old 20-02-2003, 03:58 AM
LeighMo
 
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Default Amazon sword?

When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually start
looking "rotting"


It's unattractive, but it's not harmful. I sometimes leave long stubs when I'm
in a hurry (usually in the morning, heading for work). No time to take off my
shirt so it doesn't get wet when I'm up to my armpit in the tank. g
Sometimes I go back and trim them shorter later, sometimes I leave them . If
I'm planning to take a photo of the tank, I usually trim all the stems down as
far as I can, just so it looks nicer.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/
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Old 21-02-2003, 03:51 AM
LM
 
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Hi everybody,

thanks for the info... one more question on amazon sword while we're still
on the topic... It's been about 3-4 weeks since I planted them in my tank
(37G with 55W CF. tad on the low side). all my new leaves of the amazons
look somewhat translucent. Is this normal? or is it missing some
nutrients?

the color looks a little light green, but that may be due to the lightbulb
color tho.. (5400k). My crypts, java fern, lysmachias, foxtail, E. Ozelot
is doing fairly well (all new leaves are red), so far...

my tank is very soft (based on city water info), and alkaline (pH~8
according to my LFS. I've just ordered my own test kit... hope it will
arrive soon). I've been dropping Flourish about 0.5ml every few days. I
also did order some root tabs, in hopes of giving the root feeders a bit of
a boost.

linda

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the

stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually

start
looking "rotting"


It's unattractive, but it's not harmful. I sometimes leave long stubs

when I'm
in a hurry (usually in the morning, heading for work). No time to take

off my
shirt so it doesn't get wet when I'm up to my armpit in the tank. g
Sometimes I go back and trim them shorter later, sometimes I leave them .

If
I'm planning to take a photo of the tank, I usually trim all the stems

down as
far as I can, just so it looks nicer.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/



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Old 21-02-2003, 03:51 AM
LM
 
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Hi everybody,

thanks for the info... one more question on amazon sword while we're still
on the topic... It's been about 3-4 weeks since I planted them in my tank
(37G with 55W CF. tad on the low side). all my new leaves of the amazons
look somewhat translucent. Is this normal? or is it missing some
nutrients?

the color looks a little light green, but that may be due to the lightbulb
color tho.. (5400k). My crypts, java fern, lysmachias, foxtail, E. Ozelot
is doing fairly well (all new leaves are red), so far...

my tank is very soft (based on city water info), and alkaline (pH~8
according to my LFS. I've just ordered my own test kit... hope it will
arrive soon). I've been dropping Flourish about 0.5ml every few days. I
also did order some root tabs, in hopes of giving the root feeders a bit of
a boost.

linda

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the

stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually

start
looking "rotting"


It's unattractive, but it's not harmful. I sometimes leave long stubs

when I'm
in a hurry (usually in the morning, heading for work). No time to take

off my
shirt so it doesn't get wet when I'm up to my armpit in the tank. g
Sometimes I go back and trim them shorter later, sometimes I leave them .

If
I'm planning to take a photo of the tank, I usually trim all the stems

down as
far as I can, just so it looks nicer.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/



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Old 21-02-2003, 09:15 AM
Tasslehoff
 
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The root tabs will help a lot as your sword is prolly lacking potassium and
iron as they grow massive root systems which are awesome. When I uprooted
mine a month back to convert from a UGF to a planted tank it looked like
white hygrophilia difformis(wisteria) growing under the gravel.
I think it may also depend on the species. The amazon swords at my LFS are
huge and expensive AUS$30 but have a sickly transparent thin look to them
prolly because of inadequate lighting for starters(halogen .4W/G). My mail
order sword $4 from 6 months ago is comparatively small but has many quite
thick lush green leaves at 2.25W/G & Co2 with daily additions of trace/Fe
and K fertiliser and it's getting bigger.
Calcium Carbonate CaCO3 is fairly easy to come by whether it be sold as
granules/crushed coral etc to increase your gH but make sure of your fishies
gH recommendations as discus and some tetra species prefer soft water.

"LM" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody,

thanks for the info... one more question on amazon sword while we're

still
on the topic... It's been about 3-4 weeks since I planted them in my tank
(37G with 55W CF. tad on the low side). all my new leaves of the amazons
look somewhat translucent. Is this normal? or is it missing some
nutrients?

the color looks a little light green, but that may be due to the lightbulb
color tho.. (5400k). My crypts, java fern, lysmachias, foxtail, E.

Ozelot
is doing fairly well (all new leaves are red), so far...

my tank is very soft (based on city water info), and alkaline (pH~8
according to my LFS. I've just ordered my own test kit... hope it will
arrive soon). I've been dropping Flourish about 0.5ml every few days. I
also did order some root tabs, in hopes of giving the root feeders a bit

of
a boost.

linda

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the

stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually

start
looking "rotting"


It's unattractive, but it's not harmful. I sometimes leave long stubs

when I'm
in a hurry (usually in the morning, heading for work). No time to take

off my
shirt so it doesn't get wet when I'm up to my armpit in the tank. g
Sometimes I go back and trim them shorter later, sometimes I leave them

..
If
I'm planning to take a photo of the tank, I usually trim all the stems

down as
far as I can, just so it looks nicer.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/





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Old 21-02-2003, 09:15 AM
Tasslehoff
 
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The root tabs will help a lot as your sword is prolly lacking potassium and
iron as they grow massive root systems which are awesome. When I uprooted
mine a month back to convert from a UGF to a planted tank it looked like
white hygrophilia difformis(wisteria) growing under the gravel.
I think it may also depend on the species. The amazon swords at my LFS are
huge and expensive AUS$30 but have a sickly transparent thin look to them
prolly because of inadequate lighting for starters(halogen .4W/G). My mail
order sword $4 from 6 months ago is comparatively small but has many quite
thick lush green leaves at 2.25W/G & Co2 with daily additions of trace/Fe
and K fertiliser and it's getting bigger.
Calcium Carbonate CaCO3 is fairly easy to come by whether it be sold as
granules/crushed coral etc to increase your gH but make sure of your fishies
gH recommendations as discus and some tetra species prefer soft water.

"LM" wrote in message
...
Hi everybody,

thanks for the info... one more question on amazon sword while we're

still
on the topic... It's been about 3-4 weeks since I planted them in my tank
(37G with 55W CF. tad on the low side). all my new leaves of the amazons
look somewhat translucent. Is this normal? or is it missing some
nutrients?

the color looks a little light green, but that may be due to the lightbulb
color tho.. (5400k). My crypts, java fern, lysmachias, foxtail, E.

Ozelot
is doing fairly well (all new leaves are red), so far...

my tank is very soft (based on city water info), and alkaline (pH~8
according to my LFS. I've just ordered my own test kit... hope it will
arrive soon). I've been dropping Flourish about 0.5ml every few days. I
also did order some root tabs, in hopes of giving the root feeders a bit

of
a boost.

linda

"LeighMo" wrote in message
...
When trimming swords, sometimes I can't quite get to the base of the

stem,
and end up leaving about 1" or so of the stub left, which eventually

start
looking "rotting"


It's unattractive, but it's not harmful. I sometimes leave long stubs

when I'm
in a hurry (usually in the morning, heading for work). No time to take

off my
shirt so it doesn't get wet when I'm up to my armpit in the tank. g
Sometimes I go back and trim them shorter later, sometimes I leave them

..
If
I'm planning to take a photo of the tank, I usually trim all the stems

down as
far as I can, just so it looks nicer.


Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/







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