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Old 20-02-2003, 02:59 AM
Dave M. Picklyk
 
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I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish? In the last 3 days my betta's fins are all sticking together and
cramped up and looking pale and some neons are dying, a lot are bloated.
This wouldn't be from lack of oxygen would it? (the C02 was 33ppm for the
last several weeks and I just attached a new bottle with 43ppm and it's been
going for 24hours now so I don't think it is the problem)

I have an aquaclear making decent air bubbles from it's flow into the tank.
That should be good for air supply.

I know it's off topic a bit, but I'm trying to rule out the C02 as a cause
for this. (Already tested ammonia levels which are perfect and 0)

Help,
Dave. Thanx!!!


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Old 20-02-2003, 03:15 AM
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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote:

I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish?


According to everything I've read, it's much too high. I don't know if
it's causing the fish problems you're seeing, but it's certainly
possible.

Recommendations tend towards 10-25 ppm as being good for plants
without being harmful to fish.

See for more information:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm


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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote:

I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish?


According to everything I've read, it's much too high. I don't know if
it's causing the fish problems you're seeing, but it's certainly
possible.

Recommendations tend towards 10-25 ppm as being good for plants
without being harmful to fish.

See for more information:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm


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Old 20-02-2003, 04:18 AM
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I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish?


That's a bit high. I never go above 35ppm if there are fish in the tank.

Increase your aeration/surface turbulence, and your CO2 levels will drop.

(Already tested ammonia levels which are perfect and 0)


How about nitrite?



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I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish?


That's a bit high. I never go above 35ppm if there are fish in the tank.

Increase your aeration/surface turbulence, and your CO2 levels will drop.

(Already tested ammonia levels which are perfect and 0)


How about nitrite?



Leigh

http://www.fortunecity.com/lavender/halloween/881/


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My $0.02 here... my co2 has gone up to 60ppm at times and had no ill effect
from the fish (killies and a pleco). that said, it may be a problem in your
case, so I would measure your nitrItes and nitrAtes and increase your areation
just in case. my thoughts anyway. take with a lotta salt

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My $0.02 here... my co2 has gone up to 60ppm at times and had no ill effect
from the fish (killies and a pleco). that said, it may be a problem in your
case, so I would measure your nitrItes and nitrAtes and increase your areation
just in case. my thoughts anyway. take with a lotta salt

Ben
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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message .ca...
I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish? In the last 3 days my betta's fins are all sticking together and
cramped up and looking pale and some neons are dying, a lot are bloated.
This wouldn't be from lack of oxygen would it? (the C02 was 33ppm for the
last several weeks and I just attached a new bottle with 43ppm and it's been
going for 24hours now so I don't think it is the problem)

I have an aquaclear making decent air bubbles from it's flow into the tank.
That should be good for air supply.

I know it's off topic a bit, but I'm trying to rule out the C02 as a cause
for this. (Already tested ammonia levels which are perfect and 0)

Help,


Well it is about 2x what is a good range would be. 20-30ppm is good.
Some fish are funnier about higher CO2 than others.
I do 50% weekly water change and add nutrients back after. I have
never lost a fish in 15 years nor used medications.
Something about good plant growth, good food, non crowded tank and and
basic mainteance that keeps them healthy.

If you measure 30+ ppm you don't need more CO2

Regards,
Tom Barr




Dave. Thanx!!!

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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message .ca...
I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish? In the last 3 days my betta's fins are all sticking together and
cramped up and looking pale and some neons are dying, a lot are bloated.
This wouldn't be from lack of oxygen would it? (the C02 was 33ppm for the
last several weeks and I just attached a new bottle with 43ppm and it's been
going for 24hours now so I don't think it is the problem)

I have an aquaclear making decent air bubbles from it's flow into the tank.
That should be good for air supply.

I know it's off topic a bit, but I'm trying to rule out the C02 as a cause
for this. (Already tested ammonia levels which are perfect and 0)

Help,


Well it is about 2x what is a good range would be. 20-30ppm is good.
Some fish are funnier about higher CO2 than others.
I do 50% weekly water change and add nutrients back after. I have
never lost a fish in 15 years nor used medications.
Something about good plant growth, good food, non crowded tank and and
basic mainteance that keeps them healthy.

If you measure 30+ ppm you don't need more CO2

Regards,
Tom Barr




Dave. Thanx!!!

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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote:

I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish?


According to everything I've read, it's much too high. I don't know if
it's causing the fish problems you're seeing, but it's certainly
possible.

Recommendations tend towards 10-25 ppm as being good for plants
without being harmful to fish.

See for more information:
http://www.csd.net/~cgadd/aqua/art_plant_co2chart.htm


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My $0.02 here... my co2 has gone up to 60ppm at times and had no ill effect
from the fish (killies and a pleco). that said, it may be a problem in your
case, so I would measure your nitrItes and nitrAtes and increase your areation
just in case. my thoughts anyway. take with a lotta salt

Ben
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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message .ca...
I'm getting 43ppm of C02 in my 15 gallon tank. Is that too high for the
fish? In the last 3 days my betta's fins are all sticking together and
cramped up and looking pale and some neons are dying, a lot are bloated.
This wouldn't be from lack of oxygen would it? (the C02 was 33ppm for the
last several weeks and I just attached a new bottle with 43ppm and it's been
going for 24hours now so I don't think it is the problem)

I have an aquaclear making decent air bubbles from it's flow into the tank.
That should be good for air supply.

I know it's off topic a bit, but I'm trying to rule out the C02 as a cause
for this. (Already tested ammonia levels which are perfect and 0)

Help,


Well it is about 2x what is a good range would be. 20-30ppm is good.
Some fish are funnier about higher CO2 than others.
I do 50% weekly water change and add nutrients back after. I have
never lost a fish in 15 years nor used medications.
Something about good plant growth, good food, non crowded tank and and
basic mainteance that keeps them healthy.

If you measure 30+ ppm you don't need more CO2

Regards,
Tom Barr




Dave. Thanx!!!

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