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Mark Trueman 23-02-2003 08:45 PM

dissolving K2So4
 
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400 ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use it as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark



rnj 23-02-2003 10:36 PM

dissolving K2So4
 
I have used K2SO4. The stuff that you usually get at the nursery has a
fair amount of clay like material in it. Pure K2SO4 is a white crystalline
solid. When you mix the fertilizer stuff with water the K2SO4 dissolves
relatively quickly, leaving the clay to settle out with time. I'm a chemist
and out of force of habit I felt compelled to purify it. I mixed a cup of
the fertilizer grade with a quart of water and shook it up a couple of times
during the day, then I let the clay settle out overnight. I then carefully
poured off the clear liquid. You can also siphon off the clear liquid with a
airline hose and filter it with a coffee filter. I then condensed it down by
boiling most of the water off, reducing the volume to roughly two cups. As
it cools you should get pretty crystals to form in the bottom of your pot.
These crystals can be can be separated out if you want. I've added the
"dirty"stuff in my tanks with out too much clouding of the water. I use the
purified stuff with sulfuric acid to make pH buffer, works great.

Potassium sulphate will dissolve at 1 gram into 8.3ml at room temp. 1 gram
into 4ml of boiling water.

Let me know if you want help figuring out the math for your solution. You
may need to dose it in 2ml doses, because of the solubility limits.

Ross F.


"Mark Trueman" wrote in message
.. .
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400 ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use it

as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark





rnj 23-02-2003 10:36 PM

dissolving K2So4
 
I have used K2SO4. The stuff that you usually get at the nursery has a
fair amount of clay like material in it. Pure K2SO4 is a white crystalline
solid. When you mix the fertilizer stuff with water the K2SO4 dissolves
relatively quickly, leaving the clay to settle out with time. I'm a chemist
and out of force of habit I felt compelled to purify it. I mixed a cup of
the fertilizer grade with a quart of water and shook it up a couple of times
during the day, then I let the clay settle out overnight. I then carefully
poured off the clear liquid. You can also siphon off the clear liquid with a
airline hose and filter it with a coffee filter. I then condensed it down by
boiling most of the water off, reducing the volume to roughly two cups. As
it cools you should get pretty crystals to form in the bottom of your pot.
These crystals can be can be separated out if you want. I've added the
"dirty"stuff in my tanks with out too much clouding of the water. I use the
purified stuff with sulfuric acid to make pH buffer, works great.

Potassium sulphate will dissolve at 1 gram into 8.3ml at room temp. 1 gram
into 4ml of boiling water.

Let me know if you want help figuring out the math for your solution. You
may need to dose it in 2ml doses, because of the solubility limits.

Ross F.


"Mark Trueman" wrote in message
.. .
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400 ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use it

as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark





Aqua 24-02-2003 12:28 AM

dissolving K2So4
 
Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

I use warm water to dissolve K2SO4

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua




Aqua 24-02-2003 12:28 AM

dissolving K2So4
 
Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

I use warm water to dissolve K2SO4

--
Thank You

Dominic
http://www.dlink.org/aqua




Dave M. Picklyk 24-02-2003 04:28 AM

dissolving K2So4
 
I've just purchased some pure KNO3, K2SO4, and KH2PO4 from a hydroponics
place. I've opened up all the containers and it's either a fine white powder
or crystal substance...looks like it's going to be easy to dissolve. Can I
just add this stuff directly to the tank or should I pre-mix them in water
and then add the solution?



Any opinions?

Thanx, Dave.



"Mark Trueman" wrote in message
.. .
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400 ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use it

as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark





Dave M. Picklyk 24-02-2003 04:28 AM

dissolving K2So4
 
I've just purchased some pure KNO3, K2SO4, and KH2PO4 from a hydroponics
place. I've opened up all the containers and it's either a fine white powder
or crystal substance...looks like it's going to be easy to dissolve. Can I
just add this stuff directly to the tank or should I pre-mix them in water
and then add the solution?



Any opinions?

Thanx, Dave.



"Mark Trueman" wrote in message
.. .
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400 ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use it

as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark





rnj 24-02-2003 05:33 AM

dissolving K2So4
 
dissolve it in water first, that way your angel fish won't get a belly ache
from swallowing it.


"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message
. ca...
I've just purchased some pure KNO3, K2SO4, and KH2PO4 from a hydroponics
place. I've opened up all the containers and it's either a fine white

powder
or crystal substance...looks like it's going to be easy to dissolve. Can I
just add this stuff directly to the tank or should I pre-mix them in water
and then add the solution?



Any opinions?

Thanx, Dave.



"Mark Trueman" wrote in message
.. .
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400

ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use

it
as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark







rnj 24-02-2003 05:33 AM

dissolving K2So4
 
dissolve it in water first, that way your angel fish won't get a belly ache
from swallowing it.


"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message
. ca...
I've just purchased some pure KNO3, K2SO4, and KH2PO4 from a hydroponics
place. I've opened up all the containers and it's either a fine white

powder
or crystal substance...looks like it's going to be easy to dissolve. Can I
just add this stuff directly to the tank or should I pre-mix them in water
and then add the solution?



Any opinions?

Thanx, Dave.



"Mark Trueman" wrote in message
.. .
Group,

Is there anyone here who uses k2so4 in water to fertilise. I tried to
prepare some, first mixture couldnt get 8 tblspoons to dissolve in 400

ml,
reduced it to 4 tbsp but i still have to shake the bottle before i use

it
as
it seems to separate after being left for a while.

Anyone else have this experience or any tips?

Ideally i wanted to be able to dose 1ppm K per ml of solution in my 160
litre. Currently i can only get .4 ppm per ml.

Mark








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