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Old 21-08-2003, 08:02 AM
Dave M. Picklyk
 
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Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD, traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now to a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and thick
like.

Thanx for any opinions!!!

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Old 21-08-2003, 04:22 PM
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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message
. ca...
Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is

the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD, traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now to

a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and thick
like.


Same problem - let me know if you find an answer!

I.


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Old 21-08-2003, 05:02 PM
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I was told that it's because of too much blue in the spectrum, or something
similar... One color makes it grow tall, one color makes it bushy, not
tall.... IIRC, blue makes it go tall, red makes it bushy.... Anachris is the
same way, if the light has more reds, it'll be bushier leaves, thicker
between branches, and more blue will make it reach for the top of the
water....

I could be wrong, and I reserve the right to be wrong at anytime without
hesitation... haha....
"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message
. ca...
Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is

the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD, traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now to

a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and thick
like.

Thanx for any opinions!!!

--
Dave Picklyk
www.picklyk.com/aquascape




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Old 21-08-2003, 05:42 PM
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my Caboma always sucks, I always sucker in and buy it because it looks so
nice... at first. Is this a true aquarium plant, anyone know? I know many
"aquarium" plants sold are not really meant to be underwater, people just
sell them for the purpose and they often don't do well.


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Old 21-08-2003, 07:12 PM
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RedForeman wrote:
I was told that it's because of too much blue in the spectrum, or something
similar... One color makes it grow tall, one color makes it bushy, not
tall.... IIRC, blue makes it go tall, red makes it bushy.... Anachris is the


How does the color of CF bulbs change with age? Does it? I got mine in October,
so it's about time to get new bulbs, right? My cabomba used to be very bushy,
but lately it's getting more tall. It could be the lower light quality?

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Old 21-08-2003, 10:33 PM
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For me, the trick is to never top it. Start with a nice, thick, batch, and
never, ever top it. Instead, discard the bottoms and replant the tops

Of course, I don't always have the discipline to do that. :-)


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Old 21-08-2003, 11:04 PM
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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message .ca...
Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD, traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now to a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and thick
like.


It's almost certainly that you don't have enough light. Cabomba really
requires a well-lit tank. For a small tank like a 15g, well-lit
probably means something like 80W. (The watts per gallon rules don't
really work for small or large tanks.)

You might do better with a less light-demanding plant such as
Limnophila, although frankly you might not have enough light for that
to do well either.

- Jim
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Old 21-08-2003, 11:42 PM
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Xref: 127.0.0.1 rec.aquaria.freshwater.plants:75204

Cabomba is a hassle. This cannot be stopped.

Low maintenance plants - Crypt (once over first dieback) Hygro and
Ludwiga. All root well and do not get straggley.

Dave M. Picklyk wrote:

Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD, traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now to a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and thick
like.

Thanx for any opinions!!!




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Old 22-08-2003, 01:42 AM
Dave M. Picklyk
 
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Hmmm...sounds like I might have that problem. I have 18,000K Powerglo bulbs
which are high in the blue spectrum. But I like the colors of the fish and
plants in this light...as I have compared it to redder and greener lights.
So I guess I'll stick with having 5 or 6 stalks of this cabomba instead of
the big nice bush I wanted.

"RedForeman " wrote in message
...
I was told that it's because of too much blue in the spectrum, or

something
similar... One color makes it grow tall, one color makes it bushy, not
tall.... IIRC, blue makes it go tall, red makes it bushy.... Anachris is

the
same way, if the light has more reds, it'll be bushier leaves, thicker
between branches, and more blue will make it reach for the top of the
water....

I could be wrong, and I reserve the right to be wrong at anytime without
hesitation... haha....
"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message
. ca...
Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is

the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD,

traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow

extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch

of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now

to
a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and

thick
like.

Thanx for any opinions!!!

--
Dave Picklyk
www.picklyk.com/aquascape






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Old 22-08-2003, 02:02 AM
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This is the limnophila sessiliflora or ambulia?

"Jim Seidman" wrote in message
om...
"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message

.ca...
Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is

the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD,

traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow

extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch

of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now

to a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and

thick
like.


It's almost certainly that you don't have enough light. Cabomba really
requires a well-lit tank. For a small tank like a 15g, well-lit
probably means something like 80W. (The watts per gallon rules don't
really work for small or large tanks.)

You might do better with a less light-demanding plant such as
Limnophila, although frankly you might not have enough light for that
to do well either.

- Jim





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Actually Red, it's the opposite. The blue spectrum encourages short and
bushy growth while the red spectrum makes plants grow long and leggy.




"RedForeman " wrote in message
...
I was told that it's because of too much blue in the spectrum, or

something
similar... One color makes it grow tall, one color makes it bushy, not
tall.... IIRC, blue makes it go tall, red makes it bushy.... Anachris is

the
same way, if the light has more reds, it'll be bushier leaves, thicker
between branches, and more blue will make it reach for the top of the
water....

I could be wrong, and I reserve the right to be wrong at anytime without
hesitation... haha....
"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message
. ca...
Why does my cabomba grow with big spaces between leafs and straggley? Is

the
trick lots of light? I only have 2wpg in a 15gal wide. I do PPMD,

traces,
and have good values of C02 like 35ppm. All my other plants grow

extremely
fast and lush (I have to prune 2-3 times a week) I used to have a bunch

of
this stuff but got disgusted with the poor growth that I limited it now

to
a
little part of the brightest spot in my aquarium. The stem seems to grow
rapidly but the leaf sections grow wide apart and not condensed and

thick
like.

Thanx for any opinions!!!

--
Dave Picklyk
www.picklyk.com/aquascape






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Old 22-08-2003, 12:42 PM
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It's almost certainly that you don't have enough light. Cabomba really
requires a well-lit tank.


That hasn't been my experience. My Cabomba actually grows bushier in my
moderate-light tank, probably because it grows slower.


Leigh

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Old 22-08-2003, 04:02 PM
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"Dave M. Picklyk" wrote in message .ca...
This is the limnophila sessiliflora or ambulia?


Yes, I was thinking Limnophila sessiliflora, a.k.a. ambulia. Although
Limnophila aquatica might do OK too. Limnophila aromatica would
definitely require more light, however.

Again, I don't know if 30W in a 15g will support L. sessiflora either.
Tbat's pretty low light. But it would be more likely to do well, and
has a similar look to cabomba.

- Jim
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LeighMo ) writes:
It's almost certainly that you don't have enough light. Cabomba

really
requires a well-lit tank.


That hasn't been my experience. My Cabomba actually grows bushier in

my
moderate-light tank, probably because it grows slower.


The original poster has 30W on a 15g, which sounds like pretty low
light to me. I don't know what kind of lighting is on your
"moderate-light" tank, but I suspect that it's much better-lit than
that.

Unfortunately, I don't know of any measurement that's both easy and
accurate for describing the light level in a tank. So your
moderate-light might be something that I would call a high-light.
Someone needs to mass-produce cheap underwater light meters to resolve
the problem. :-)

- Jim
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Old 22-08-2003, 07:12 PM
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Jim Seidman wrote:
The original poster has 30W on a 15g, which sounds like pretty low
light to me. I don't know what kind of lighting is on your


2 watts per gallon is by no means low-light.

"moderate-light" tank, but I suspect that it's much better-lit than
that.


I have cabomba in the 110 gallon tank, which has about 1 gpw of CF light on
it. The darn thing (along with every other plant there) grows like a weed
and requires weekly prunning.

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