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Old 27-08-2003, 08:33 PM
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Hello! I am a beginner's beginner, I got a 90 gallon tank from my friend and
want to set up a planted tank with lots of neons...(look like will be
pretty...)

Anyway, I am getting some easy-grow/medium-easy-grow plants, but after
viewing some articles, I found out that I might need to support CO2. I have
a 220W Jalli light and a canister filter.

I want to ask :

1. What CO2 system should be better for me in this situation? I found
several CO2 SOLENOID DIAPHRAGM VALVE on ebay, sould I need to buy one of
them?

2. If I really need those valves, shoud I also purchase a CO2 tank? Where
could I purchase them, and where could I refill them if they are empty?

3.Even though if I have them all, how can I know the plant got them? I
mean, does the CO2 automacilly go into water???

4. Do I really can turn off the CO2 at night?

5. Would the Co2 affect neons? Or could you recommand some article about
CO2 and fishes?

Thanks a lot! Any information will be helpful!

Doreen



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Old 27-08-2003, 11:04 PM
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#1
Make sure to have a solenoid if you want it to be hooked up to a timer
or want it to be used with a controller to stop the co2 if the ph
drops to much. Bubble counters are really nice but not a must.
If you but just a solenoid you WILL HAVE to buy a REGULATOR seperatly
attach it.
#2 You can get tanks used locally @ a fire ext shop or such. I am
having a sale @ http://www.AQUATIC-STORE.com on used tanks

#3 co2 needs to be dissapated in the water via a reactor or such see
the website for pics.
#4 with a solenoid hook it up to a standard houshold timer unit you
can get @ the hardware store

#5 as long as the plants are producing o2 and the co2 is not cranked
up and the co2 remains stable you will be fine.
Ph tend to drop with co2 but neons like lower co2 anyway

Marcus

http://www.aquatic-store.com/

Co2 tanks on sale
Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

WEBBOARD

http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php


Hello! I am a beginner's beginner, I got a 90 gallon tank from my friend and
want to set up a planted tank with lots of neons...(look like will be
pretty...)

Anyway, I am getting some easy-grow/medium-easy-grow plants, but after
viewing some articles, I found out that I might need to support CO2. I have
a 220W Jalli light and a canister filter.

I want to ask :

1. What CO2 system should be better for me in this situation? I found
several CO2 SOLENOID DIAPHRAGM VALVE on ebay, sould I need to buy one of
them?

2. If I really need those valves, shoud I also purchase a CO2 tank? Where
could I purchase them, and where could I refill them if they are empty?

3.Even though if I have them all, how can I know the plant got them? I
mean, does the CO2 automacilly go into water???

4. Do I really can turn off the CO2 at night?

5. Would the Co2 affect neons? Or could you recommand some article about
CO2 and fishes?

Thanks a lot! Any information will be helpful!

Doreen


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Old 28-08-2003, 03:22 PM
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Hello! I am a beginner's beginner, I got a 90 gallon tank from my friend
and
want to set up a planted tank with lots of neons...(look like will be
pretty...)


Have a look at http://www.dlink.org/aqua/CO2.html
You can consider clippard needle valve with the above setup.

Regards
Dominic


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Old 29-08-2003, 08:02 PM
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"DOREEN" wrote in message ...
Hello! I am a beginner's beginner, I got a 90 gallon tank from my friend and
want to set up a planted tank with lots of neons...(look like will be
pretty...)

Anyway, I am getting some easy-grow/medium-easy-grow plants, but after
viewing some articles, I found out that I might need to support CO2. I have
a 220W Jalli light and a canister filter.


Doreen, you should realize that you can get by just fine with no CO2
at all. There are really two very different approaches to
plant-growing, and you have to decide what sounds good to you:

"High tech": CO2 injection increases plant growth rate, which
necessitates regular fertilizing. Rapid plant growth means that things
look beautiful but require frequent pruning. High nutrient levels let
you grow pretty much anything.

"Natural aquarium": No CO2 injection, and plants grow slowly enough
that fish food usually provide all the fertilization necessary. Plants
that usually have emergent (above the water) growth in the wild may
have trouble living completely submerged in these setups.

If you decide to go with CO2, realize that you'll have to research
fertilizer as well, may need an enriched substrate, etc. Adding CO2
without doing those other things can lead to your plants becoming
starved of nutrients, which is bad.

Also, understand that the "slower" growth in a non-CO2 enriched
aquarium doesn't necessarily seem slow by terrestrial plant standards.
For example, in my no-CO2 tank, Limnophila sessiliflora doubles in
size every two weeks. Plants can do this even living off of the
nutrients in fish food because typical submerged growth is about 93%
water.

- Jim
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Old 29-08-2003, 09:12 PM
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Default Beginner's questions - regarding CO2

I agree with his statemen,
You may want to check out Diane Walsteads
Ecology of a planted aquarium for low tech setups.
Awesome book

Marcus

http://www.aquatic-store.com/

Co2 tanks on sale
Eheim 2026 $143
Co2 regulator and bubble counter with needle valve $75

WEBBOARD

http://aquatic.yupapa.com/phpbb/index.php






On 29 Aug 2003 11:50:05 -0700, (Jim Seidman) wrote:

"DOREEN" wrote in message ...
Hello! I am a beginner's beginner, I got a 90 gallon tank from my friend and
want to set up a planted tank with lots of neons...(look like will be
pretty...)

Anyway, I am getting some easy-grow/medium-easy-grow plants, but after
viewing some articles, I found out that I might need to support CO2. I have
a 220W Jalli light and a canister filter.


Doreen, you should realize that you can get by just fine with no CO2
at all. There are really two very different approaches to
plant-growing, and you have to decide what sounds good to you:

"High tech": CO2 injection increases plant growth rate, which
necessitates regular fertilizing. Rapid plant growth means that things
look beautiful but require frequent pruning. High nutrient levels let
you grow pretty much anything.

"Natural aquarium": No CO2 injection, and plants grow slowly enough
that fish food usually provide all the fertilization necessary. Plants
that usually have emergent (above the water) growth in the wild may
have trouble living completely submerged in these setups.

If you decide to go with CO2, realize that you'll have to research
fertilizer as well, may need an enriched substrate, etc. Adding CO2
without doing those other things can lead to your plants becoming
starved of nutrients, which is bad.

Also, understand that the "slower" growth in a non-CO2 enriched
aquarium doesn't necessarily seem slow by terrestrial plant standards.
For example, in my no-CO2 tank, Limnophila sessiliflora doubles in
size every two weeks. Plants can do this even living off of the
nutrients in fish food because typical submerged growth is about 93%
water.

- Jim




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