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Matt 02-04-2004 08:25 AM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt

Happy'Cam'per 02-04-2004 08:43 AM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Hey Matt

Thoroughly check the bottle and lines for airleaks, especially where the
tube goes through the bottle lid. We have a product over here called
Prestick, looks like gum and is used for sticking up posters etc, a nice
glob of this wrapped around the tube entering the bottle top works well.

If you don't have leaks then your yeast has probably gone off! Yes, it has a
shelf life, buy fresh yeast, keep the packet in the fridge once opened, you
can roll it up and seal it with a clothes peg so no air gets in :o
.........another thing, don't use boiling water, this can kill the yeast
culture.
HTH
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"Matt" wrote in message
...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt




Bruce Abrams 02-04-2004 02:42 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 

"Happy'Cam'per" wrote in message
...
Hey Matt

Thoroughly check the bottle and lines for airleaks, especially where the
tube goes through the bottle lid. We have a product over here called
Prestick, looks like gum and is used for sticking up posters etc, a nice
glob of this wrapped around the tube entering the bottle top works well.

If you don't have leaks then your yeast has probably gone off! Yes, it has

a
shelf life, buy fresh yeast, keep the packet in the fridge once opened,

you
can roll it up and seal it with a clothes peg so no air gets in :o
........another thing, don't use boiling water, this can kill the yeast
culture.


Forget about boiling, at anything over 105 degrees or so you'll kill the
yeast.

HTH
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**




"Matt" wrote in message
...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and

might
be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1

bubble
per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of

a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this

stuff
going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a

tbs
of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing

this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt






Happy'Cam'per 02-04-2004 03:45 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Brilliant insight Bruce,
Would never have thought of that myself......*PLONK*
--
**So long, and thanks for all the fish!**



Tony Kissell 06-04-2004 09:31 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 

"Matt" wrote in message
...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt

Also check your room temperature, my CO2 production decreases over the
Winter months for this reason. Yeast likes to live in water of about blood
temperature or just below.




Tony Kissell 06-04-2004 09:31 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 

"Matt" wrote in message
...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt

Also check your room temperature, my CO2 production decreases over the
Winter months for this reason. Yeast likes to live in water of about blood
temperature or just below.




Matt 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
The room is usually at 75-80 degrees. You think if I put the mix next to my
filter pump it'll produce more CO2? I sure hope so. At this rate I'll need 5
bottles to make a barely adequate amount of gas. And these are 1 gallon jugs!

Matt

Matt 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
The room is usually at 75-80 degrees. You think if I put the mix next to my
filter pump it'll produce more CO2? I sure hope so. At this rate I'll need 5
bottles to make a barely adequate amount of gas. And these are 1 gallon jugs!

Matt

Kenneth Ho 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
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Unless you have a lot of time to spare, I seriously think that the
pressurized bottle is the way to go for a 120 gal tank. And you probably
need a very effective reactor as well.

Cheers
Kenneth

"Matt" ¦b¶l¥ó
¤¤¼¶¼g...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt





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Kenneth Ho 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
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Unless you have a lot of time to spare, I seriously think that the
pressurized bottle is the way to go for a 120 gal tank. And you probably
need a very effective reactor as well.

Cheers
Kenneth

"Matt" ¦b¶l¥ó
¤¤¼¶¼g...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt





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Matt 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
I just don't have extra cash to blow on that kind of hardware. I'd like to,
but it's just not in the cards.

Matt

Matt 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
I just don't have extra cash to blow on that kind of hardware. I'd like to,
but it's just not in the cards.

Matt

Eric Schreiber 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Happy'Cam'per wrote:

Brilliant insight Bruce,
Would never have thought of that myself......*PLONK*


If you consider that a plonkable offense, you probably should
reconsider spending any more time on Usenet, as your skin is far too
thin.

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Eric Schreiber 06-04-2004 09:32 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Happy'Cam'per wrote:

Brilliant insight Bruce,
Would never have thought of that myself......*PLONK*


If you consider that a plonkable offense, you probably should
reconsider spending any more time on Usenet, as your skin is far too
thin.

--
www.ericschreiber.com

Tony Kissell 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 

"Matt" wrote in message
...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt

Also check your room temperature, my CO2 production decreases over the
Winter months for this reason. Yeast likes to live in water of about blood
temperature or just below.




Matt 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
The room is usually at 75-80 degrees. You think if I put the mix next to my
filter pump it'll produce more CO2? I sure hope so. At this rate I'll need 5
bottles to make a barely adequate amount of gas. And these are 1 gallon jugs!

Matt

Kenneth Ho 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
**** Post for FREE via your newsreader at post.usenet.com ****

Unless you have a lot of time to spare, I seriously think that the
pressurized bottle is the way to go for a 120 gal tank. And you probably
need a very effective reactor as well.

Cheers
Kenneth

"Matt" ¦b¶l¥ó
¤¤¼¶¼g...
Hey, all,

Just wanted to see if anyone else out there has had this problem and might

be
able to help. I have a 120 gallon tank with DIY CO2 injected into the

filter
pickup. Problem is, my CO2 production is extremely low... Like 1 bubble

per 3
minutes. The first batch I ran on this tank kicked butt to the tune of a
bubble every 2 seconds for two weeks, but to date all successive batches

have
been duds. I tried adding baking soda, but it didn't help at all. In

fact,
that batch was probably the worst to date. I cant seem to get this stuff

going
well. I use a 1 gallon gatorade jug with 3.5 cups of sugar and half a tbs

of
Fleishmann's active dry yeast. Can anyone figure out what's causing this
problem?

Thanks in advance!

Matt





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Matt 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
I just don't have extra cash to blow on that kind of hardware. I'd like to,
but it's just not in the cards.

Matt

Eric Schreiber 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Happy'Cam'per wrote:

Brilliant insight Bruce,
Would never have thought of that myself......*PLONK*


If you consider that a plonkable offense, you probably should
reconsider spending any more time on Usenet, as your skin is far too
thin.

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Graham Broadbridge 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
"Matt" wrote in message
...
I just don't have extra cash to blow on that kind of hardware. I'd like

to,
but it's just not in the cards.


Really, DIY CO2 is just not workable on a 120 gal tank if you expect magic
plant growth.

Of course, any additional CO2 is usable on any size tank, provided that you
have realistic expectations.

Without CO2 I would not use PMDD, and I

Matt




Graham Broadbridge 06-04-2004 09:34 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
"Matt" wrote in message
...
I just don't have extra cash to blow on that kind of hardware. I'd like

to,
but it's just not in the cards.


Really, DIY CO2 is just not workable on a 120 gal tank if you expect magic
plant growth.

Of course, any additional CO2 is usable on any size tank, provided that you
have realistic expectations.

Without CO2 I would not use PMDD, and I

Matt




Graham Broadbridge 06-04-2004 09:35 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
"Matt" wrote in message
...
I just don't have extra cash to blow on that kind of hardware. I'd like

to,
but it's just not in the cards.


Really, DIY CO2 is just not workable on a 120 gal tank if you expect magic
plant growth.

Of course, any additional CO2 is usable on any size tank, provided that you
have realistic expectations.

Without CO2 I would not use PMDD, and I

Matt




Matt 07-04-2004 11:41 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Why is it not workable? What is the limiting factor? Is it the bubbles per
minute? I don't expect anything magical, just a little boost to the growth
rate. Maybe it would offset the plant eating tinfoil barb *******s' damage. I
swear, as cool as they look, if they don't cut out the plant munching, I'm
going to trade them in!! :/

Matt

RedForeman ©® 08-04-2004 03:37 PM

DIY yeast CO2 problem
 
Why is it not workable? What is the limiting factor? Is it the
bubbles per minute? I don't expect anything magical, just a little
boost to the growth rate. Maybe it would offset the plant eating
tinfoil barb *******s' damage. I swear, as cool as they look, if
they don't cut out the plant munching, I'm going to trade them in!!
Matt


Personally, I _would_ trade them in.... IMO, in a plant tank, they have no
business being there... they're an ornamental fish, they look nice, serve no
other purpose other than to eat your plants...

IIRC, DIY Co2 production is very much maxed out at around 40g-55g mark,
theres a threshold of where saturation levels can't be acheived in such a
large tank for you to even notice it's there. Pressurized CO2, literally,
INJECTS the water with high amounts, that are unobtainable with DIY CO2..
that's why the virtual rule,
5-55g DIY can give you 15-25ppm, any bigger, then forget it...
55g + Pressurized...

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