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Of the many plants of ethnopharmacological interest which I grow in my
yard, I am particularly fond of my Brugmansias. I have several in pots
and a few in the ground. They are perennial in my zone (7b), dying back
to the ground each winter. This one grows to about 8-9 feet tall each
summer and has very large leaves up to 18" long, and big double creamy
white flowers. The flowers are practically odorless in the day, but as
soon as the sun sets they exude a powerfully hypnotic fragrance which is
said to cause intense nightmares if you should have one planted outside
your bedroom window. All parts of this plant are poisonous, containing
tropane alkaloids which have been used by shamans for time immemorial
for divination and healing.


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Mark Herbert wrote:
Of the many plants of ethnopharmacological interest which I grow in my
yard, I am particularly fond of my Brugmansias. I have several in pots
and a few in the ground. They are perennial in my zone (7b), dying back
to the ground each winter. This one grows to about 8-9 feet tall each
summer and has very large leaves up to 18" long, and big double creamy
white flowers. The flowers are practically odorless in the day, but as
soon as the sun sets they exude a powerfully hypnotic fragrance which is
said to cause intense nightmares if you should have one planted outside
your bedroom window. All parts of this plant are poisonous, containing
tropane alkaloids which have been used by shamans for time immemorial
for divination and healing.




And killing rivals....

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Mark Herbert wrote:

Of the many plants of ethnopharmacological interest which I grow in my
yard, I am particularly fond of my Brugmansias. I have several in pots
and a few in the ground. They are perennial in my zone (7b), dying back
to the ground each winter. This one grows to about 8-9 feet tall each
summer and has very large leaves up to 18" long, and big double creamy
white flowers. The flowers are practically odorless in the day, but as
soon as the sun sets they exude a powerfully hypnotic fragrance which is
said to cause intense nightmares if you should have one planted outside
your bedroom window. All parts of this plant are poisonous, containing
tropane alkaloids which have been used by shamans for time immemorial
for divination and healing.

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Datura? :-)

I've not started collecting those yet.
I visited a greenhouse in Houston once that had them in several colors!

Beautiful, and hardy.

Maybe we can do some trading. I have a nice crop of San Pedro "buds"
that are available for cuttings. Also some Peruvian torch seeds if you
are game to try growing cactus from seed.


I have some lovely little baby SP's that I sprouted from them. :-)
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Mark Herbert wrote:
Of the many plants of ethnopharmacological interest which I grow in my
yard, I am particularly fond of my Brugmansias. I have several in pots
and a few in the ground. They are perennial in my zone (7b), dying back
to the ground each winter. This one grows to about 8-9 feet tall each
summer and has very large leaves up to 18" long, and big double creamy
white flowers. The flowers are practically odorless in the day, but as
soon as the sun sets they exude a powerfully hypnotic fragrance which is
said to cause intense nightmares if you should have one planted outside
your bedroom window. All parts of this plant are poisonous, containing
tropane alkaloids which have been used by shamans for time immemorial
for divination and healing.




And killing rivals....


There are more efficient plants for that...
Wild Nightshades come to mind?
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Omelet wrote:
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Mark Herbert wrote:


Of the many plants of ethnopharmacological interest which I grow in my
yard, I am particularly fond of my Brugmansias. I have several in pots
and a few in the ground. They are perennial in my zone (7b), dying back
to the ground each winter. This one grows to about 8-9 feet tall each
summer and has very large leaves up to 18" long, and big double creamy
white flowers. The flowers are practically odorless in the day, but as
soon as the sun sets they exude a powerfully hypnotic fragrance which is
said to cause intense nightmares if you should have one planted outside
your bedroom window. All parts of this plant are poisonous, containing
tropane alkaloids which have been used by shamans for time immemorial
for divination and healing.

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Datura? :-)


IIRC, if they are pointing downwards, they are brugmansia, if they
point upwards, they are datura.

I've found huuuuuuuggggeee brugmansia trees in quite a few places
here on Oahu. No dying back so they just keep growing and growing
and growing and....

Tracey



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Datura? :-)


IIRC, if they are pointing downwards, they are brugmansia, if they
point upwards, they are datura.

I've found huuuuuuuggggeee brugmansia trees in quite a few places
here on Oahu. No dying back so they just keep growing and growing
and growing and....

Tracey


Sounds lovely, thanks for the plant lesson! :-)
I'm always up for an education...

Do they have similar alkaloids?
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Omelet wrote:
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Mark Herbert wrote:


Of the many plants of ethnopharmacological interest which I grow in my
yard, I am particularly fond of my Brugmansias. I have several in pots
and a few in the ground. They are perennial in my zone (7b), dying back
to the ground each winter. This one grows to about 8-9 feet tall each
summer and has very large leaves up to 18" long, and big double creamy
white flowers. The flowers are practically odorless in the day, but as
soon as the sun sets they exude a powerfully hypnotic fragrance which is
said to cause intense nightmares if you should have one planted outside
your bedroom window. All parts of this plant are poisonous, containing
tropane alkaloids which have been used by shamans for time immemorial
for divination and healing.

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[Image]

end



Datura? :-)


IIRC, if they are pointing downwards, they are brugmansia, if they
point upwards, they are datura.

I've found huuuuuuuggggeee brugmansia trees in quite a few places
here on Oahu. No dying back so they just keep growing and growing
and growing and....

Tracey



Chop them down, dig them up, pour on roundup, they come back.

I had two that were breaking up my driveway, got rid on one, the other
came back and is damaging my car port.
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In article , Tracey wrote:

Datura? :-)


IIRC, if they are pointing downwards, they are brugmansia, if they
point upwards, they are datura.

I've found huuuuuuuggggeee brugmansia trees in quite a few places
here on Oahu. No dying back so they just keep growing and growing
and growing and....

Tracey


Sounds lovely, thanks for the plant lesson! :-)
I'm always up for an education...

Do they have similar alkaloids?


Yep. Here's one of my Daturas. This one is several years old. By the
end of the summer it has spread to about 10 feet in diameter. Late in
the summer I pluck at least 20 spent flowers from this plant alone
(sometimes 50-60) each evening in order to prevent seed pod formation
and promote blooming. I have been trying to get night pictures of
hawkmoths feeding on my Daturas, which has proven to be a maddening
exercise in futility.


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Mark Herbert wrote:

In article ,
Omelet wrote:

In article , Tracey wrote:

Datura? :-)

IIRC, if they are pointing downwards, they are brugmansia, if they
point upwards, they are datura.

I've found huuuuuuuggggeee brugmansia trees in quite a few places
here on Oahu. No dying back so they just keep growing and growing
and growing and....

Tracey


Sounds lovely, thanks for the plant lesson! :-)
I'm always up for an education...

Do they have similar alkaloids?


Yep. Here's one of my Daturas. This one is several years old. By the
end of the summer it has spread to about 10 feet in diameter. Late in
the summer I pluck at least 20 spent flowers from this plant alone
(sometimes 50-60) each evening in order to prevent seed pod formation
and promote blooming. I have been trying to get night pictures of
hawkmoths feeding on my Daturas, which has proven to be a maddening
exercise in futility.

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Very nice!!! We used to have those growing wild when I lived in
California in the upper Mojave. I've seen colored Datura plants in
Austin for sale. I don't own any yet but it's in the eventual plans.
They are so pretty!

Those hummingbird moths are skittish. I've seen them feeding on my honey
suckle at dusk, and they really get happy when I plant moonvines and
those huge white flowers start to bloom at night.
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