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At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes),
anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Bob Williams wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams I set mine at 800 x600 pixels because I have trouble reading small print. Bob |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:52:53 -0700, Bob Williams
wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1600 X 1200 |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
"Charles" wrote in message ... On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:52:53 -0700, Bob Williams wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1600 X 1200 1024 x 768 Mary |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
"Bob Williams" wrote in message ... Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1024 x 768 on a 17" LCD. Anything smaller makes my icons too small and the print too small. But what I really want is a wide screen 22". No more scrolling on web pages, and those humongous photos some people continue to post would then fit on my screen. |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
On Wed, 2 May 2007 07:28:13 -0400, "3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina"
3putt@PawleysIslandSC wrote: "Bob Williams" wrote in message ... Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1024 x 768 on a 17" LCD. Anything smaller makes my icons too small and the print too small. But what I really want is a wide screen 22". No more scrolling on web pages, and those humongous photos some people continue to post would then fit on my screen. Oh for goofy lines. Get the free image viewer irfanview and set it to display the pictures the size of your screen. Good grief, what is so hard about asking for a little advice before complaining about the wonderful posters on this great garden group. |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
On Tue, 01 May 2007 22:55:42 -0700, Bob Williams
wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams I set mine at 800 x600 pixels because I have trouble reading small print. Bob Same here. I don't like to have to put on big glasses. |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Mine is set at the "Native Resolution" for my 19" LCD which is 1280 x1024
Cheers Wendy "Bob Williams" wrote in message ... Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
"joevan" wrote in message ... On Wed, 2 May 2007 07:28:13 -0400, "3Putt from CoastalSouth Carolina" 3putt@PawleysIslandSC wrote: "Bob Williams" wrote in message ... Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1024 x 768 on a 17" LCD. Anything smaller makes my icons too small and the print too small. But what I really want is a wide screen 22". No more scrolling on web pages, and those humongous photos some people continue to post would then fit on my screen. Oh for goofy lines. Get the free image viewer irfanview and set it to display the pictures the size of your screen. Good grief, what is so hard about asking for a little advice before complaining about the wonderful posters on this great garden group. I would say "humongous" falls outside what is normally posted here. Who wants to open a 3meg photo? Is that a complaint? Resizing is no problem. First you would have to download it before you resize it.. How did I upset you? If the original poster can mention optimum size, it should be fair to mention posting size. And I believe that is an oft mentioned subject in most photo newsgroups. Some of us actually do need some advice on dpi, pixels and percents. Not everyone wants to use Ifanview as it doesn't satisfy (yet) all photo editing criteria. |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Bob Williams wrote:
Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. Not true -- see below. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1280x768 an a 19" LCD monitor. This is its "native" (ie, actual, physical) resolution. This gives the sharpest letters, the clearest images, and the least blurring when scrolling. I don't mind scrolling for larger images, since I keep few of them, and those I keep, I'll look at with the image viewer anyway. I prefer larger images, but I realise they pose a problem for people on dial-up. IMO 1200x800 is a good all round size. Some notes on resolution and image quality (tech talk): Every monitor, even cathode ray ones (CRTs), has a physical resolution. On a CRT that resolution is set by the the steel grille between the glass screen and the electron gun at the back of the monitor. On an LCD, it's set by the size of the LCD elements that make up the screen. Setting the monitor to other resolutions will always produce a worse image and fuzzier letters. I recommend that you set the monitor to its physical ("native") resolution. Windows and MAC-OSX do this automatically with all recent monitors, BTW, so when you plug in a new monitor, just let it do its setup thing, and then leave it alone. With other OSs you may have to run a separate setup utility: make sure you set the monitor to the recommend specs. If you need larger type, you can set the Windows scheme to a larger typeface; and you can increase the type size displayed by Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. (for example.) Windows also has an applet for setting the display to show extra large type for visually impaired people. All image viewers worth using can automatically resize the images to fit the display area. If your doesn't do this, dump it, and get a better one. I recommend Irfanview, which is free; or PMView, which costs about $30. Both also do a surprising amount of basic image processing, and do it well. Windows' built-in viewer up to at least Windows 2000 is limited -- not recommended. Irfanview distinguishes between oversize images, which can be reduced to fit; and undersized images, which can be enlarged. I don't recommend enlarging images to fit, as enlarged images often get the jaggies. BTW, there are also colour balance ("colour temperature") settings. That's a whole 'nother post. ;-) HTH -- Wolf "Don't believe everything you think." (Maxine) |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Wolf wrote:
Bob Williams wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. Not true -- see below. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1280x768 an a 19" LCD monitor. [...] Sorry, that should've been 1280x1024. |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
1Bob Williams wrote:
Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1024x768 |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
"Bob Williams" wrote... Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1280 x 1024 -- Regards Bob H 17mls W. of London.UK |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Wolf wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. Not true -- see below. By "OPTIMUM SIZE" I did not mean highest image quality. Highest image quality is obviously the largest size and the lowest compression that your camera offers. However, many folks on this NG use cameras of 6-8 MP or even larger, set for finest quality (lowest compression). If an image of this size was posted it would contain around 3000x 2300 pixels and would typically have a file size of around 2.0-2.5 MB. The picture may be magnificent but very few people on this NG will dare open it, especially folks with telephone modems. And those few who did open it would be treated to such a huge image that they could not view it in its entirety without scrolling widthwise and heightwise, big time! With images of this size, the amount viewable at one time is typically so small that it is almost impossible to discern and appreciate the composition of the image. Perfect examples of this are your posts of the Crocus and the Begonia. Both are very nice pictures but you could not tell it by looking at the large, high resolution images you posted. It is certainly not my intention to tell you how to send your images. That is your business. But I strongly suspect that you would get more viewers if you would post images that were significantly smaller. Otherwise, in the words of the famous English Poet, Thomas Gray, "Full many a flower is born to blush unseen....." IMHO, OPTIMUM size is the best compromise between image quality, image size, and file size. The image should be viewable by a majority of our members without a lot of scrolling when using conventional email and newsgroup readers. It should also be compressed sufficiently so the file size is reasonably available to members who have telephone modems. That is just common courtesy. Every once in a while when I see a "killer" picture, I will ask the original poster to send me a full size, high resolution image so I can print it for my personal collection. Usually they are happy to do so. That is the only time that I send or accept a multi-MP, hi-res image. Of course, YMMV. Bob Williams In order to send pictures at the optimum size for good viewing it is necessary to know how each of us sets his/her monitor resolution. What size (resolution) do you have your monitor set for? Bob Williams 1280x768 an a 19" LCD monitor. This is its "native" (ie, actual, physical) resolution. This gives the sharpest letters, the clearest images, and the least blurring when scrolling. I don't mind scrolling for larger images, since I keep few of them, and those I keep, I'll look at with the image viewer anyway. I prefer larger images, but I realise they pose a problem for people on dial-up. IMO 1200x800 is a good all round size. Some notes on resolution and image quality (tech talk): Every monitor, even cathode ray ones (CRTs), has a physical resolution. On a CRT that resolution is set by the the steel grille between the glass screen and the electron gun at the back of the monitor. On an LCD, it's set by the size of the LCD elements that make up the screen. Setting the monitor to other resolutions will always produce a worse image and fuzzier letters. I recommend that you set the monitor to its physical ("native") resolution. Windows and MAC-OSX do this automatically with all recent monitors, BTW, so when you plug in a new monitor, just let it do its setup thing, and then leave it alone. With other OSs you may have to run a separate setup utility: make sure you set the monitor to the recommend specs. If you need larger type, you can set the Windows scheme to a larger typeface; and you can increase the type size displayed by Firefox, Thunderbird, etc. (for example.) Windows also has an applet for setting the display to show extra large type for visually impaired people. All image viewers worth using can automatically resize the images to fit the display area. If your doesn't do this, dump it, and get a better one. I recommend Irfanview, which is free; or PMView, which costs about $30. Both also do a surprising amount of basic image processing, and do it well. Windows' built-in viewer up to at least Windows 2000 is limited -- not recommended. Irfanview distinguishes between oversize images, which can be reduced to fit; and undersized images, which can be enlarged. I don't recommend enlarging images to fit, as enlarged images often get the jaggies. BTW, there are also colour balance ("colour temperature") settings. That's a whole 'nother post. ;-) HTH |
At what resolution do you set your Monitor?
Bob Williams wrote:
Wolf wrote: Bob Williams wrote: Most monitors can be set at any of several screen resolutions (sizes), anywhere from 800x600 pixels to 1400x1050 pixels or even greater. Many photo editors can resize images to any desired size. When sending pictures to this group, the optimum size is the largest that can be viewed by the majority of viewers without scrolling. Not true -- see below. By "OPTIMUM SIZE" I did not mean highest image quality. I interpret that to mean file size. If that's what you have in mind, we agree. I suggest about 200KB, which is small enough for dial up users to get in a reasonable time, and large enough to allow for large but not overly large images, thus permitting for good to very good image quality. At the usual dial-up rate of 56Kbits/second, a 200KB image will download in about 30 to 45 seconds, allowing for repeated packets. ** Assuming that optimum file size is somewhere around 200KB, then JPEGs of quite large images will easily fit into that optimum size - see the images I posted, half of which are which are 300KB or less. *** The fact is that image size has a rather complicated relationship to file size. That's why I suggested that we agree on an acceptable file size. ** Since getting broadband, I've noticed that demand on the server has more effect on the actual download time than transmission speed. I've waited 10 seconds and longer before a download even started when the host server is busy. Also, the download may pause for seconds at a time. On dial up, I rarely noticed this - the slow transmission speed masked these effects of server overload. *** Keep in mind that the JPEG file size is determined by the amount of detail in the image. Many of the closeup images posted here have large areas of the same colour, so that they will compress very well indeed without noticeable loss of quality. The picture may be magnificent but very few people on this NG will dare open it, especially folks with telephone modems. And those few who did open it would be treated to such a huge image that they could not view it in its entirety without scrolling widthwise and heightwise, big time! With images of this size, the amount viewable at one time is typically so small that it is almost impossible to discern and appreciate the composition of the image. Perfect examples of this are your posts of the Crocus and the Begonia. Both are very nice pictures but you could not tell it by looking at the large, high resolution images you posted. [...] Yes, you're quite right. I will repost a series of the same picture at different image sizes. Let the group decide which one(s) work best. [...] BTW, you can set pretty well any newsreader to automatically use an external program to view pictures. If this is done, scrolling isn't necessary, since the external viewer can display to fit the screen. That external program stays open once invoked, and it takes an extra couple of clicks to switch between reader and viewer. IMO that's a small price to pay. -- Wolf "Don't believe everything you think." (Maxine) |
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