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wendy7 07-07-2009 06:10 AM

Geranium
 
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Some pieces given to me by a friend.
Cheers Wendy

Basketweaver 07-07-2009 06:28 PM

Geranium
 
Great color! One I have never seen.

"Wendy7" wrote in message
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Some pieces given to me by a friend.
Cheers Wendy




Bob Hobden 07-07-2009 10:58 PM

Geranium
 

"Wendy7" wrote...
Some pieces given to me by a friend.


Reminds me of an old Regal Pelagonium I used to have "Lord Bute" I think was
it's name. Used to grow lots of Regal Pels in our little greenhouse until
they got infested with a Whitefly that nothing seemed to kill, had to throw
the lot on the compost heap.
They can't stand water on the flowers, they turn to mush, so not much chance
of growing them outside in this country. :-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London




wendy7 08-07-2009 12:39 AM

Geranium
 
Thanks Pam,
It is different & very vibrant
Cheers Wendy


"Basketweaver" wrote in message
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Great color! One I have never seen.

"Wendy7" wrote in message
...
Some pieces given to me by a friend.
Cheers Wendy





wendy7 08-07-2009 12:42 AM

Geranium
 
Thanks for the tips Bob, now I shall have to research on the differance
between a
Geranium & a Pelagonium?
Cheers Wendy

"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"Wendy7" wrote...
Some pieces given to me by a friend.


Reminds me of an old Regal Pelagonium I used to have "Lord Bute" I think
was it's name. Used to grow lots of Regal Pels in our little greenhouse
until they got infested with a Whitefly that nothing seemed to kill, had
to throw the lot on the compost heap.
They can't stand water on the flowers, they turn to mush, so not much
chance of growing them outside in this country. :-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London





Bob Hobden 08-07-2009 08:59 AM

Geranium
 

"Wendy7" wrote ...
Thanks for the tips Bob, now I shall have to research on the differance
between a
Geranium & a Pelagonium?


All you need to know here...

http://www.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?PID=338

:-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London




wendy7 08-07-2009 04:15 PM

Geranium
 
Thanks for the info Bob.
It is going to be difficult to call my plants Pelagoniums as I have always
known them to be Geraniums. I have to rename all my photos!
Cheers Wendy
"Bob Hobden" wrote in message
...

"Wendy7" wrote ...
Thanks for the tips Bob, now I shall have to research on the differance
between a
Geranium & a Pelagonium?


All you need to know here...

http://www.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?PID=338

:-)

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London





Bob Hobden 08-07-2009 07:01 PM

Geranium
 

"Wendy7" wrote ...
"Wendy7" wrote ...
Thanks for the tips Bob, now I shall have to research on the differance
between a
Geranium & a Pelagonium?


All you need to know here...

http://www.rhs.org.uk/advicesearch/profile.aspx?PID=338

Thanks for the info Bob.
It is going to be difficult to call my plants Pelargonium as I have always
known them to be Geraniums. I have to rename all my photos!


They were known as Geraniums by Botanists but the S.African frost tender
types were renamed Pelargonium in, I believe, the 1930s but in this instance
the trade always resisted changing the name, strange when they were quick to
change some Datura to Brugmansia quite recently.
Whilst the true geraniums are small hardy perennials there are three that
are quite large and spectacular and well worth growing if you can provide
the required conditions.
G. maderense for example is amazing in flower and has a strange way of
growing with the older leaves pushed hard down to the ground to buttress the
short trunk, but it isn't hardy in the UK and it's monocarpic.
G. palmatum is hardy and seeds itself around my garden (in a rather
civilised way).
G. canariensis I haven't grown yet.

--
Regards
Bob Hobden
just W. of London









Garrapata 09-07-2009 02:52 AM

Geranium
 
.......................now I shall have to research on the differance
between a Geranium & a Pelagonium?
Cheers Wendy


Some ways to tell them apart -

1. Everything you call a Geranium is probably a Pelargonium :)

2. Pelargoniums are mostly tender shrubs with more or less woody stems
sometimes succulent.
Geraniums are herbaceous annuals and perennials.

3. Pels have irregular flowers, three smaller below and two larger above
- usually - and some only have four petals, two larger and two
smaller.
Gers. have regular flowers, five petals -usually- Both can be doubles
and have many petals.

4. Pels have a nectar tube attached to their pedicels - Not always
obvious

A few common examples
Ivy Geraniums are P. peltatum
Zonal Geraniums are P. x hortorum
Lady Washington, Regal and what are here called just "Pelargoniums" are
P. x domesticum
--

09=ix

Garrapata 09-07-2009 03:05 AM

Geranium
 
They were known as Geraniums by Botanists but the S.African frost tender
types were renamed Pelargonium in, I believe, the 1930s but in this instance
the trade always resisted changing the name, strange when they were quick to
change some Datura to Brugmansia quite recently.
Whilst the true geraniums are small hardy perennials there are three that
are quite large and spectacular and well worth growing if you can provide
the required conditions.
G. maderense for example is amazing in flower and has a strange way of
growing with the older leaves pushed hard down to the ground to buttress the
short trunk, but it isn't hardy in the UK and it's monocarpic.
G. palmatum is hardy and seeds itself around my garden (in a rather
civilised way).
G. canariensis I haven't grown yet.


Pelargonium was published in 1789 but it had been Geranium since the
1600s and the name stuck. Another change that still hasn't been
completely accepted is Hebe for Veronica.

A guy I worked for in 1969 got some G. palmatum seeds from the RHS. I
got some and they have followed me through six moves to different
places in Monterey and San Louis Obispo counties. They are quite
aggressive here and have to be pulled up before they set too much seed
or they would take over the whole yard. Actually they did take over at
the first place we grew them. Still their ferny leaves and magenta
flowers are nice in a woodland setting and I always make sure to have
some when we move.

Canariensis is a lot like a perennial palmatum and they form a trunk as
they grow. They aren't as aggressive here.

--
Prunedale California
Prunetuckey-By-The-Slough
Near Monterey Bay and Elkhorn Slough

wendy7 09-07-2009 05:41 AM

Geranium
 
Thanks ever so much for all the data. You are amazing!
Cheers Wendy
"Garrapata" wrote in message
...
.......................now I shall have to research on the differance
between a Geranium & a Pelagonium?
Cheers Wendy


Some ways to tell them apart -

1. Everything you call a Geranium is probably a Pelargonium :)

2. Pelargoniums are mostly tender shrubs with more or less woody stems
sometimes succulent.
Geraniums are herbaceous annuals and perennials.

3. Pels have irregular flowers, three smaller below and two larger above
- usually - and some only have four petals, two larger and two
smaller.
Gers. have regular flowers, five petals -usually- Both can be doubles
and have many petals.

4. Pels have a nectar tube attached to their pedicels - Not always
obvious

A few common examples
Ivy Geraniums are P. peltatum
Zonal Geraniums are P. x hortorum
Lady Washington, Regal and what are here called just "Pelargoniums" are
P. x domesticum
--

09=ix




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