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Cubit 24-08-2005 01:27 AM

Killing Ants
 
I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen, but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.

When the Grant's failed I bought Raid and Combat bait stations. The ants
took no interest in either product. I then tried Terro ant poison. The
ants loved the stuff. They took their fill out the six poison units that
came in a pack. Unfortunately, the ants just kept coming in a large column
until the bait was gone. They now stream into my garbage disposal, where I
dumped some uneaten dog food.

The Grant's I had used had been on the shelf for a few years, so I bought
new stakes at Wal-Mart today. Occasionally, an ant will go check out the
bait, but they are not interested.

Can someone suggest a brand that is likely to work?



Bert Byfield 24-08-2005 01:35 AM

I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my
kitchen, but they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.


I use Fantastic kitchen cleaner (soap) or a similar product. It's not too
deadly to pets or other living things, and does the job.




helco 24-08-2005 01:38 AM


"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen,
but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants
refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and
mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.

When the Grant's failed I bought Raid and Combat bait stations. The ants
took no interest in either product. I then tried Terro ant poison. The
ants loved the stuff. They took their fill out the six poison units that
came in a pack. Unfortunately, the ants just kept coming in a large
column
until the bait was gone. They now stream into my garbage disposal, where
I
dumped some uneaten dog food.

The Grant's I had used had been on the shelf for a few years, so I bought
new stakes at Wal-Mart today. Occasionally, an ant will go check out the
bait, but they are not interested.

Can someone suggest a brand that is likely to work?

I've had good luck with MaxAttrax, which is a sort of jelly that you goop
onto a surface where the ants will find it; they eat it, bring it home, and
disappear in a few days. The ants in my office ate it and disappeared. The
ants in my mailbox had no interest in the stuff, though -- but a few
mothballs in the mailbox got rid of them. (The mail smells funny, though.)



chaz 24-08-2005 02:35 AM


"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen,
but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants
refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and
mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.

When the Grant's failed I bought Raid and Combat bait stations. The ants
took no interest in either product. I then tried Terro ant poison. The
ants loved the stuff. They took their fill out the six poison units that
came in a pack. Unfortunately, the ants just kept coming in a large
column
until the bait was gone. They now stream into my garbage disposal, where
I
dumped some uneaten dog food.

The Grant's I had used had been on the shelf for a few years, so I bought
new stakes at Wal-Mart today. Occasionally, an ant will go check out the
bait, but they are not interested.

Can someone suggest a brand that is likely to work?



Takea ritz cracker and crumble it, add to the traps and walla, ant hotels!



Cubit 24-08-2005 02:44 AM

Thanks

I have ordered some MaxAttrax on the internet.


"helco" wrote in message
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"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen,
but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants
refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and
mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.

When the Grant's failed I bought Raid and Combat bait stations. The

ants
took no interest in either product. I then tried Terro ant poison. The
ants loved the stuff. They took their fill out the six poison units

that
came in a pack. Unfortunately, the ants just kept coming in a large
column
until the bait was gone. They now stream into my garbage disposal,

where
I
dumped some uneaten dog food.

The Grant's I had used had been on the shelf for a few years, so I

bought
new stakes at Wal-Mart today. Occasionally, an ant will go check out

the
bait, but they are not interested.

Can someone suggest a brand that is likely to work?

I've had good luck with MaxAttrax, which is a sort of jelly that you goop
onto a surface where the ants will find it; they eat it, bring it home,

and
disappear in a few days. The ants in my office ate it and disappeared.

The
ants in my mailbox had no interest in the stuff, though -- but a few
mothballs in the mailbox got rid of them. (The mail smells funny,

though.)





Snooze 24-08-2005 08:27 AM

"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen,
but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants
refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and
mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.


Out here in the silicon valley we have Argentina ants, most consumer ant
bait doesn't work well with Argentina ants. Unfortunately it is very
difficult to kill Argentina ant colonies, because the a single colony can be
support multiple queens, and the ants will eat just about anything, besides
the bait. Hotshot brand bait works occasionally.

Commercial pest control companies use delta dust in the crawl space to kill
foragers, you blow it into the crawl space vents using a bellow, delta dust
lasts approximately 6 months. Attempt to locate where the ants are entering
the house, check window sill cracks, and around door jams. Tap on
baseboards, to locate ant passage ways.

Place dabs MaxForce ant killer bait gel , which uses the pesticide Fipronil
in a sugar gel in all the above mentioned locations.

Clean out your sink drain, push a handful of ice cubes into the drain, turn
on the grinder, flush with water, repeat.

Additionally you need to locate as many of the colonies as possible.
Argentina ants will relocate the colony if their nest is disturbed, so mix
up a batch of contact pesticide in a sprayer and follow ant trails back to
the nests. In particular check along fencelines, the base of trees, and
areas where loose mulch or soil is a few inches thick. Plus check near the
garbage cans.

-S



John Bachman 24-08-2005 12:04 PM

On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:27:48 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:

I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen, but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.

When the Grant's failed I bought Raid and Combat bait stations. The ants
took no interest in either product. I then tried Terro ant poison. The
ants loved the stuff. They took their fill out the six poison units that
came in a pack. Unfortunately, the ants just kept coming in a large column
until the bait was gone. They now stream into my garbage disposal, where I
dumped some uneaten dog food.

The Grant's I had used had been on the shelf for a few years, so I bought
new stakes at Wal-Mart today. Occasionally, an ant will go check out the
bait, but they are not interested.

Can someone suggest a brand that is likely to work?


My favorite ant control is a 50/50 mix (the mix is not critical) sugar
and Boraxo. The borax in Boraxo is toxic to ants. The ants are
attracted to the sugar but cannot tell the difference between it and
the Boraxo. They tote both back to the nest and everyone dies.

John



Cubit 25-08-2005 12:35 AM

Hotshot is the company that makes the MaxAttrax ant bait that helco
recommended.

Thanks for the ideas. I never would have thought of using ice to clean out
the garbage disposal.

The ants come in through the roof vents, then out through the kitchen
cabinets. Attic, as such, is not accessible. They are marching at least
120 feet from I'm-not-sure-where.

"Snooze" wrote in message
...
"Cubit" wrote in message
m...
I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen,
but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants
refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and
mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.


Out here in the silicon valley we have Argentina ants, most consumer ant
bait doesn't work well with Argentina ants. Unfortunately it is very
difficult to kill Argentina ant colonies, because the a single colony can

be
support multiple queens, and the ants will eat just about anything,

besides
the bait. Hotshot brand bait works occasionally.

Commercial pest control companies use delta dust in the crawl space to

kill
foragers, you blow it into the crawl space vents using a bellow, delta

dust
lasts approximately 6 months. Attempt to locate where the ants are

entering
the house, check window sill cracks, and around door jams. Tap on
baseboards, to locate ant passage ways.

Place dabs MaxForce ant killer bait gel , which uses the pesticide

Fipronil
in a sugar gel in all the above mentioned locations.

Clean out your sink drain, push a handful of ice cubes into the drain,

turn
on the grinder, flush with water, repeat.

Additionally you need to locate as many of the colonies as possible.
Argentina ants will relocate the colony if their nest is disturbed, so mix
up a batch of contact pesticide in a sprayer and follow ant trails back to
the nests. In particular check along fencelines, the base of trees, and
areas where loose mulch or soil is a few inches thick. Plus check near the
garbage cans.

-S





Cubit 25-08-2005 12:37 AM

The Terro product I tried had a borax chemical in it.

Thanks for the idea.

"John Bachman" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 00:27:48 GMT, "Cubit" wrote:

I've been trying to poison some ants. They are actually in my kitchen,

but
they come from the garden, so I hope I'm on topic here.

In the past I used Grant's stakes. After a few days of feeding on the
poison the ants would be gone for about a year. This year the ants

refused
to eat the Grant's bait. I even tried removing some from the pod and

mixing
some water with it. The ants just were not interested. These ants want
MEAT. I live in the Silicon Valley, and we have very very tiny ants.
People say they are Argentinean ants.

When the Grant's failed I bought Raid and Combat bait stations. The ants
took no interest in either product. I then tried Terro ant poison. The
ants loved the stuff. They took their fill out the six poison units that
came in a pack. Unfortunately, the ants just kept coming in a large

column
until the bait was gone. They now stream into my garbage disposal, where

I
dumped some uneaten dog food.

The Grant's I had used had been on the shelf for a few years, so I bought
new stakes at Wal-Mart today. Occasionally, an ant will go check out the
bait, but they are not interested.

Can someone suggest a brand that is likely to work?


My favorite ant control is a 50/50 mix (the mix is not critical) sugar
and Boraxo. The borax in Boraxo is toxic to ants. The ants are
attracted to the sugar but cannot tell the difference between it and
the Boraxo. They tote both back to the nest and everyone dies.

John






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