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videotron 15-03-2003 08:08 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul



jammer 15-03-2003 09:32 PM

spindly seedlings
 
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:56:19 -0500, "videotron"
wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul


I transplanted some of mine to individual pots and buried them almost
all the way. That helped a lot, but they aren't doing much now. I am
throwing them out and doing the walmart thing.
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jammer
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-:¦:- ((¸¸



SugarChile 15-03-2003 09:32 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Yep, lack of light is the main culprit. You need a fluorescent fixture
within a few inches of the top of the plants. The best thing is to put them
out in a spot that is sheltered from the wind, temps. at least 55, on a
sunny day. Even a few hours of real sun now and again works wonders; it
also helps prevent damping off. Of course you have to be around to bring
them right in when the temperature starts to drop.

You can also brush your hand gently over them now and again to help
strengthen them. And, as someone else mentioned, when it's time to
transplant them , you can bury a lot of the stem. Tomato seedlings are
fairly forgiving.

Good luck,
Sue



"videotron" wrote in message
.. .
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





Beecrofter 15-03-2003 10:08 PM

spindly seedlings
 
"videotron" wrote in message ...
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul


Not enough light , too far from the lights, too warm after germination

Cereoid+10+ 16-03-2003 06:44 AM

spindly seedlings
 
Why in the heck are you trying to grow plants from seeds now?

Its too damn early to be doing that!!!


videotron wrote in message
.. .
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





Alice Gamewell 16-03-2003 01:56 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Cereoid is wrong. Its not too early to start your seeds. I start mine 8
weeks before I set them out.
In the lamp department at my walmart, they sell small flourescent light lamps
for ten dollars. I bought two and put them over my tomato seedlings. I grew
some nice transplants from seeds.
Good luck gardening this year.
Alice

videotron wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul



TOM KAN PA 16-03-2003 02:32 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Bamboo wrote:

Not enough light , too far from the lights, too warm after germination.

To do what he suggested, I'll add more lights and move the seelings closer to
them. Wouldn't this result in even more warmth?



videotron 16-03-2003 03:32 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Ok, I've put them in little pots and buried them up to the neck and put a
flourescent light about 6-8 inches above them. Let's see what happens now.
thanks vm for the feedback.

paul


"videotron" wrote in message
.. .
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





Frogleg 16-03-2003 03:44 PM

spindly seedlings
 
On Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:56:19 -0500, "videotron"
wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?


Light, light, light. Where are you growing them? A "sunny window"
provides a few hours of direct sunlight each day. Not enough.
Plentiful artificial light (i.e., gro-light fluorescents *very*
closely positioned) can provide enough to keep the plants happy.

Frogleg 16-03-2003 03:44 PM

spindly seedlings
 
On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:40:56 GMT, "Cereoid+10+"
wrote:

Why in the heck are you trying to grow plants from seeds now?

Its too damn early to be doing that!!!

videotron wrote


Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?


Complete bosh. In the first place, you didn't enquire where the poster
was located. I generally start seeds (over heating mats in a
greenhouse) in USDA zone 8 in January. This allows for either frying
or freezing at least one batch, 'though occasionally I have 2' bushy
tomato plants ready when it's time to set them out (mid April). Amend
"occasionally" to "once".

videotron 16-03-2003 03:56 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Hi Cereoid+10+,
Thank you for your feedback - 'tho it was of no benefit to me either in
its content or in the way it was offered. I won't argue that it might be
considered a tad early to start out but I do have special plans for these
particular plants.

Thanks for your time,
Paul




"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
.. .
Why in the heck are you trying to grow plants from seeds now?

Its too damn early to be doing that!!!


videotron wrote in message
.. .
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would

cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches

tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul







Shadow 16-03-2003 04:08 PM

spindly seedlings
 

"videotron" wrote in message
...
Ok, I've put them in little pots and buried them up to the neck and put a
flourescent light about 6-8 inches above them. Let's see what happens now.
thanks vm for the feedback.

Get the lights even closer than that if you can. My grow-lights are never
more than a couple of inches above my seedlings. What may seem like plenty
of light to you and me is often insufficient for seedlings, and before you
know it, they'll start reachin' for the sky again.

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.




videotron 16-03-2003 05:56 PM

spindly seedlings
 
thanks everyone for all the feedback - think I'll double up on the
flourescent lights and set them closer (2"-3"). This group sure is an
excellent resource.

paul


"videotron" wrote in message
.. .
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





Cereoid+10+ 16-03-2003 11:08 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Bite me, Alice. Wake up and smell the seedlings rotting. You don't know
where he lives or if he can affort to buy plant lights, you dummy. Are you
going to buy them for him?

It certainly is too early if he doesn't have artificial lights and is unable
to keep the seedlings in good health indoors until the threat of frost is
over.


Alice Gamewell wrote in message
...
Cereoid is wrong. Its not too early to start your seeds. I start mine 8
weeks before I set them out.
In the lamp department at my walmart, they sell small flourescent light

lamps
for ten dollars. I bought two and put them over my tomato seedlings. I

grew
some nice transplants from seeds.
Good luck gardening this year.
Alice

videotron wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would

cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches

tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





Tom Jaszewski 16-03-2003 11:20 PM

spindly seedlings
 


Since she doesn't know where he lives how do you ?

Frost is over and it's late for starting seeds in the desert SW.



On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:58:53 GMT, "Cereoid+10+"
wrote:

Bite me, Alice. Wake up and smell the seedlings rotting. You don't know
where he lives or if he can affort to buy plant lights, you dummy. Are you
going to buy them for him?

It certainly is too early if he doesn't have artificial lights and is unable
to keep the seedlings in good health indoors until the threat of frost is
over.


Alice Gamewell wrote in message
...
Cereoid is wrong. Its not too early to start your seeds. I start mine 8
weeks before I set them out.
In the lamp department at my walmart, they sell small flourescent light

lamps
for ten dollars. I bought two and put them over my tomato seedlings. I

grew
some nice transplants from seeds.
Good luck gardening this year.
Alice

videotron wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would

cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches

tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul






"As crude a weapon as a cave man's club the chemical barrage has been hurled at the fabric of life."
Rachel Carson

Beecrofter 17-03-2003 03:32 AM

spindly seedlings
 
c (TOM KAN PA) wrote in message ...
Bamboo wrote:

Not enough light , too far from the lights, too warm after germination.

To do what he suggested, I'll add more lights and move the seelings closer to
them. Wouldn't this result in even more warmth?


Add a dash of airflow, good use for old computer fans

animaux 17-03-2003 04:08 AM

spindly seedlings
 
In lieu of the fact that my plants are almost all in the ground and seeds were
started in January...well, itaint winter everywhere. It's been 80-85 and pretty sure
to stay this way. Of course there's always that killer late freeze, but the last
freeze was a month or so ago.

V

On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 06:40:56 GMT, "Cereoid+10+" wrote:

Why in the heck are you trying to grow plants from seeds now?

Its too damn early to be doing that!!!


videotron wrote in message
. ..
Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





jammer 17-03-2003 04:08 AM

spindly seedlings
 
On Mon, 17 Mar 2003 04:05:36 GMT, animaux wrote:

In lieu of the fact that my plants are almost all in the ground and seeds were
started in January...well, itaint winter everywhere. It's been 80-85 and pretty sure
to stay this way. Of course there's always that killer late freeze, but the last
freeze was a month or so ago.


And i started my seeds in jan and i have some great melons good to go
in a week or 2. 70's here and loving it.
·.·´¨ ¨)) -:¦:-
¸.·´ .·´¨¨))
jammer
((¸¸.·´ ..·´
-:¦:- ((¸¸



mmarteen 17-03-2003 04:44 AM

spindly seedlings
 
It could be too early, it could be too early depending on where he is. I
made the mistake of being over enthusiastic here in zone 4 and starting some
seeds in February one winter and they were way overdue by the time I could
plant them in mid May. They were incredibly "spindly" from lack of natural
light (in spite of the plant light I had on them).

mm

"Alice Gamewell" wrote in message
...
Cereoid is wrong. Its not too early to start your seeds. I start mine 8
weeks before I set them out.
In the lamp department at my walmart, they sell small flourescent light

lamps
for ten dollars. I bought two and put them over my tomato seedlings. I

grew
some nice transplants from seeds.
Good luck gardening this year.
Alice

videotron wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would

cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches

tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





Cereoid+10+ 17-03-2003 10:08 AM

spindly seedlings
 
He lives in the hearts of his fellow countrymen! Don't you wish you did,
Chico?

Never said I knew where he lived.

Now you and Alice both can pitch in to buy Paul plant lights!!!


Tom Jaszewski wrote in message
...


Since she doesn't know where he lives how do you ?

Frost is over and it's late for starting seeds in the desert SW.



On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:58:53 GMT, "Cereoid+10+"
wrote:

Bite me, Alice. Wake up and smell the seedlings rotting. You don't know
where he lives or if he can affort to buy plant lights, you dummy. Are

you
going to buy them for him?

It certainly is too early if he doesn't have artificial lights and is

unable
to keep the seedlings in good health indoors until the threat of frost is
over.


Alice Gamewell wrote in message
...
Cereoid is wrong. Its not too early to start your seeds. I start mine

8
weeks before I set them out.
In the lamp department at my walmart, they sell small flourescent light

lamps
for ten dollars. I bought two and put them over my tomato seedlings. I

grew
some nice transplants from seeds.
Good luck gardening this year.
Alice

videotron wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems

to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would

cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches

tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





"As crude a weapon as a cave man's club the chemical barrage has been

hurled at the fabric of life."
Rachel Carson




Alice Gamewell 17-03-2003 02:32 PM

spindly seedlings
 
Your quotes are stupid. You try hard to impress people as a know it all but
come off looking dumb.
Why do you feel the need to critisize everyone who posts on this site asking for
advice? I have never seen anything come from you with any scientific basis or
common sense. Yet you feel the need to make fun of people. Perhaps you need
to join a different group in which you actually know something.

Cereoid+10+ wrote:

He lives in the hearts of his fellow countrymen! Don't you wish you did,
Chico?

Never said I knew where he lived.

Now you and Alice both can pitch in to buy Paul plant lights!!!

Tom Jaszewski wrote in message
...


Since she doesn't know where he lives how do you ?

Frost is over and it's late for starting seeds in the desert SW.



On Sun, 16 Mar 2003 22:58:53 GMT, "Cereoid+10+"
wrote:

Bite me, Alice. Wake up and smell the seedlings rotting. You don't know
where he lives or if he can affort to buy plant lights, you dummy. Are

you
going to buy them for him?

It certainly is too early if he doesn't have artificial lights and is

unable
to keep the seedlings in good health indoors until the threat of frost is
over.


Alice Gamewell wrote in message
...
Cereoid is wrong. Its not too early to start your seeds. I start mine

8
weeks before I set them out.
In the lamp department at my walmart, they sell small flourescent light
lamps
for ten dollars. I bought two and put them over my tomato seedlings. I
grew
some nice transplants from seeds.
Good luck gardening this year.
Alice

videotron wrote:

Having a problem with spindly tomato seedlings - can't get the stems

to
thicken up. Would it be a lack of light or too much light that would
cause
this? The seedlings are a couple weeks old and about 3 to 4 inches
tall.
Any ideas?

tks
Paul





"As crude a weapon as a cave man's club the chemical barrage has been

hurled at the fabric of life."
Rachel Carson



Shadow 17-03-2003 11:08 PM

spindly seedlings
 

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
...

Never said I knew where he lived.


I'm just curious as to why you assumed it was too early for him to begin his
seedlings when you admit you don't know where he lived?

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.



Cereoid+10+ 18-03-2003 01:56 AM

spindly seedlings
 
Are you curious yellow or are you curious blue?

Unless he live in a climate controlled plastic bubble sealed off from the
world like you do, it still wouldn't be the first day of spring yet.

Spring begins March 20, in case you don't know that.

Do you think he lives in the southern hemisphere instead?


Shadow wrote in message
...

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
...

Never said I knew where he lived.


I'm just curious as to why you assumed it was too early for him to begin

his
seedlings when you admit you don't know where he lived?

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.






Shadow 18-03-2003 04:44 AM

spindly seedlings
 

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
m...
Are you curious yellow or are you curious blue?

Unless he live in a climate controlled plastic bubble sealed off from the
world like you do, it still wouldn't be the first day of spring yet.

Spring begins March 20, in case you don't know that.

Do you think he lives in the southern hemisphere instead?


Silly me, and here all this time I was going by my last frost date when
planning my planting times.

You really do have a hard time admitting you're wrong, don't you?

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.



Cereoid+10+ 18-03-2003 10:44 AM

spindly seedlings
 
Look who's talking!

I answered your question so now you can go back into hibernation,
Canucklehead.

There is no last frost date for permafrost boreal like you.


Shadow wrote in message
...

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
m...
Are you curious yellow or are you curious blue?

Unless he live in a climate controlled plastic bubble sealed off from

the
world like you do, it still wouldn't be the first day of spring yet.

Spring begins March 20, in case you don't know that.

Do you think he lives in the southern hemisphere instead?


Silly me, and here all this time I was going by my last frost date when
planning my planting times.

You really do have a hard time admitting you're wrong, don't you?

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.





Shadow 18-03-2003 11:44 AM

spindly seedlings
 

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
. ..
Look who's talking!

I answered your question so now you can go back into hibernation,
Canucklehead.

There is no last frost date for permafrost boreal like you.


Aww shucks. You say the nicest things.

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.



B & J 19-03-2003 06:56 AM

spindly seedlings
 
"Shadow" wrote in message
...

"Cereoid+10+" wrote in message
. ..
Look who's talking!

I answered your question so now you can go back into hibernation,
Canucklehead.

There is no last frost date for permafrost boreal like you.


Aww shucks. You say the nicest things.

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.


That reminds me of the adage: "Why are there so many more 'orses a**es than
there are 'orses?" You appear to be its latest victim.

BTW, I can relate to those in Canada, for I used to live a short distance
from there in northern MN and have many relatives in the Soo. Taking abuse
from the unwashed used to be called Minnesota nice, and your answer can be
called Canada nice, eh? :-)

John




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