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Shazam 03-11-2005 09:24 AM

olives
 
I have a couple in large pots which have grown well. I'm thinking of putting
them in the garden. Does anyone have any knowledge or advice?
thanks
Jon



[email protected] 03-11-2005 01:07 PM

olives
 

Shazam wrote:
I have a couple in large pots which have grown well. I'm thinking of putting
them in the garden. Does anyone have any knowledge or advice?
thanks
Jon


Hi Jon, I don't know exactly what kind of "olive" you write about,
and what state you live in, but here in the State of Arizona they are
outlawed. If you had an olive tree in before the law passed many,many
years ago, you could keep it. But growing new olive trees or importing
trees or seeds, is illegal.

Why? Arizona is known for its healthful climate, so they took as many
steps as they could to keep it that way. Also forbidden, the fruited
mulberry tree, and I'm sure many more such allergenic plants.

Mike


Shazam 03-11-2005 05:10 PM

olives
 

wrote in message
ups.com...

Shazam wrote:
I have a couple in large pots which have grown well. I'm thinking of
putting
them in the garden. Does anyone have any knowledge or advice?
thanks
Jon


Hi Jon, I don't know exactly what kind of "olive" you write about,
and what state you live in, but here in the State of Arizona they are
outlawed. If you had an olive tree in before the law passed many,many
years ago, you could keep it. But growing new olive trees or importing
trees or seeds, is illegal.

Why? Arizona is known for its healthful climate, so they took as many
steps as they could to keep it that way. Also forbidden, the fruited
mulberry tree, and I'm sure many more such allergenic plants.

Mike


so what do you put in your martinis in Arizona?
I'm in England, bought the olives from one of the garden goodies suppliers,
and lost the instruction sheet
People in Italy and Spain don't die of olive poisoning, what are you
Arizonians made of??
:-)



Lar 03-11-2005 09:09 PM

olives
 
On 3 Nov 2005 05:07:59 -0800, wrote:

:) Hi Jon, I don't know exactly what kind of "olive" you write about,
:) and what state you live in, but here in the State of Arizona they are
:) outlawed. If you had an olive tree in before the law passed many,many
:) years ago, you could keep it. But growing new olive trees or importing
:) trees or seeds, is illegal.

I beleive it is only banned in parts of Arizona, rather than the
whole state and fruitless varieties are ok everywhere in the state.


Lar. (to e-mail, get rid of the BUGS!!


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Lar 03-11-2005 09:16 PM

olives
 
In article ws.net,
says...
:) so what do you put in your martinis in Arizona?
:) I'm in England, bought the olives from one of the garden goodies suppliers,
:) and lost the instruction sheet
:) People in Italy and Spain don't die of olive poisoning, what are you
:) Arizonians made of??
:)
:)
Arizona has always been thought of as the place to go for people with
pulmonary concerns and with the allergy-producing pollen of the olive
tree..the two don't mix.
--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

David Hare-Scott 04-11-2005 07:19 AM

olives
 

"Shazam" wrote in message
eenews.net...
I have a couple in large pots which have grown well. I'm thinking of

putting
them in the garden. Does anyone have any knowledge or advice?
thanks
Jon



Hard to say not knowing where you live. They like mediterranean conditions,
warm wet summers and cool dry winters, soil pH neutral to slightly alkaline,
good drainage. They will likely die in heavy soggy soil. I have seen them
grow quite well in a schoolyard, with the tar playground almost to the
trunk, at Newcastle (on Hunter) that has mild damp winters and hot damp
summers and grey sand for soil. They were never tended in any way as they
were planted as shade trees. The local Greek and Italian community used to
gather the fruit annually.

David



Mike 06-11-2005 06:57 PM

olives
 

"Lar" wrote in message
t...
Arizona has always been thought of as the place to go for people with
pulmonary concerns and with the allergy-producing pollen of the olive
tree..the two don't mix.


I have an olive tree over my car and I had a pulmonary thing when I first
moved here... I've never had sneezing problems, though. I would be
interested in hearing more on this alleged connection.

I actually tried to cure the olives - bluck. They do require annual
maintenance (trimming).

- mercenary gardener z10



Lar 06-11-2005 10:46 PM

olives
 
In article ,
says...
:) I have an olive tree over my car and I had a pulmonary thing when I first
:) moved here... I've never had sneezing problems, though. I would be
:) interested in hearing more on this alleged connection.
:)
:)
:)
http://allallergy.net/fapaidfind.cfm?cdeoc=1097
http://www.klastv.com/Global/story.asp?S=1828035

--
Lar

to email....get rid of the BUGS

presley 07-11-2005 10:18 AM

olives
 

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in
Hard to say not knowing where you live. They like mediterranean
conditions,
warm wet summers and cool dry winters, soil pH neutral to slightly
alkaline,
good drainage. They will likely die in heavy soggy soil. I have seen
them
grow quite well in a schoolyard, with the tar playground almost to the
trunk, at Newcastle (on Hunter) that has mild damp winters and hot damp
summers and grey sand for soil.



Well, I have never seen Mediterranean conditions as described above. The
usual description of Mediterranean conditions is cool damp winters with
warm/hot/and dry summers - and these would be the conditions of Greece and
Italy, where olives probably originated.



Snooze 09-11-2005 08:50 AM

olives
 
"Shazam" wrote in message
eenews.net...
I have a couple in large pots which have grown well. I'm thinking of
putting them in the garden. Does anyone have any knowledge or advice?
thanks
Jon


Think very carefully before planting olive trees. Any fruit that falls on
concrete will get smashed and stain the concrete, worse any fruit that you
smash underfoot will end up staining the carpet.

-S



Jonathan Sachs 09-11-2005 11:17 AM

olives
 
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:50:17 GMT, "Snooze" wrote:

Think very carefully before planting olive trees. Any fruit that falls on
concrete will get smashed and stain the concrete, worse any fruit that you
smash underfoot will end up staining the carpet.


Perhaps this is a problem with a particular type of olive, or a
particular type of concrete. When I lived near San Francisco I knew of
several olive trees that were planted as landscaping around Santa
Clara office buildings, and even collected olives from one tree to
experiment with curing them. I do not recall a problem with staining.

Actually, the uncured olives resembled small rocks, and seemed
unlikely to stain anything.

My email address is LLM041103 at earthlink dot net.

Snooze 10-11-2005 10:04 AM

olives
 

"Jonathan Sachs" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:50:17 GMT, "Snooze" wrote:

Think very carefully before planting olive trees. Any fruit that falls on
concrete will get smashed and stain the concrete, worse any fruit that you
smash underfoot will end up staining the carpet.


Perhaps this is a problem with a particular type of olive, or a
particular type of concrete. When I lived near San Francisco I knew of
several olive trees that were planted as landscaping around Santa
Clara office buildings, and even collected olives from one tree to
experiment with curing them. I do not recall a problem with staining.

Actually, the uncured olives resembled small rocks, and seemed
unlikely to stain anything.


I suppose I should have clarified. They aren't permanent stains, just dark
purple olive juice spots. I don't know what type of olive tree it was, but
it's the same type that seems to be common in many areas around the south
bay and san jose area..

The stains are caused by smashed fallen fruit that gets ground into the
sidewalk.

-S





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