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Old 08-12-2005, 07:23 AM posted to rec.gardens
MICHELLE H.
 
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Hello Everyone,

I am new here and am looking for some help or information please.
Unfortunately, I do not live in the country, but I wish I did, I hate
the city. If I could afford it, I would move to the country and away
from all the hustle-bustle, traffic, and people.

I found this group when I was doing a search at Google for "problem
neighbors" so I guess I will post my problem here. I live in a "old"
residential part of the city where the homes in the neighborhood are all
right next to one another. The homes are probably about 30 feet from one
another. Well as you guessed it, my problem is with one of my neighbors.

My neighbor who lives to the right of me is the problem. His driveway is
on the right side of my home where the grassy area is ( my driveway is
on the the left side of my house ). His driveway is about 12 feet wide,
then he has 2 feet of ( grass ) property line, and the rest of the yard
to my house is my property.

On my grassy area, I have some flowers, rose bushes, 2 small dwarf
Alberta trees, a small pine tree and another small decorative tree. One
of the things that really angers me is that I take alot of pride and do
alot of hard work to keep my yard clean and looking nice, and he knows
this because he is always watching me all the time, because he is always
home, 24 hours a day, because he is collecting disability income from
the government because of is "bad back".

Anyway one of the things he does is he stands out on his small back
porch about every ten minutes and smokes his white Marlboro Lights, and
when he gets done, he throws his cigarette butts over into my yard!!! I
will go to bed at nightime, and wake up the next morning and go outside
to water my plants and flowers and there will be like 7 white smoke
butts on my lawn. WHY can't he throw them in his backyard?? WHY can't he
put them in a jar or a bucket?? NO, he throws them in my yard. I usually
pick up the stupid cig. butts and throw them away but what I did a few
weeks ago was start counting how many cig. butts he is throwing into my
yard. I started picking them up on Monday all the way to Sunday. One
week there was 63 in my yard. The next week there were 57, and another
week there were 65. So basically he is throwing about 60 cig. butts a
week into MY yard, not to mention his cigarette wrappers as well!!!

Now I doubt that there is anykind of law to prevent him from doing this,
but hopefully there is for my next question. In the winter he uses his
snowblower and blows all the snow from his driveway into my yard. He
runs the snowblower so high that snow hits the side of my house and my
windows. If we have a big snowstorm, all the snow in my yard, plus his
from his driveway, will bury my basement windows, my flowers, and my two
small dwarf Alberta Spruce trees. I can't understand WHY he has to throw
the snow over into my yard?? WHY can't he blow the snow down his
driveway and into his backyard??

He aims the snowblower toward my home and blows the snow into my yard,
onto my freshly shoveled front stairs, and my freshly shoveled front
sidewalk, where if someone were to fall down in front of my home, I
would be sued because of HIS SNOW!!!

Last year he was blowing the snow over into my yard, and a rock from his
driveway shot out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house!!
Now, I have TRIED to be NICE and have talked to him about this. In the
summer, he complained to me that the branches on my pine tree and my
flowering pear tree were growing toward his driveway, and that he didn't
want them to scratch his mini-van and pickup truck. So I decided to be
nice and I trimmed the branches growing toward his driveway nice and
short so that they were out of his way and there were no more problems.

So the other day when we got 4 inches of snow, he was out there bright
and early blowing the snow into my yard. So I went out there and NICELY
asked him WHY he has to blow the snow into my yard and against my house,
and he said "because he wants to clear his driveway, and doesn't want to
walk in the snow". So then I told him that I don't want him to blow the
snow into my yard and against my house because last year a rock came
flying out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house, and I don't
want to get any broken windows or holes in my new vinyl siding. So then
he said "its only snow, it'll melt, what are you gonna do about it?" So
instead of losing my temper and doing something that I would regret, I
walked away.

So, it was okay when he complained about my trees branches, I was the
nice person and trimmed them right up for him, but when I aksed him to
NOT throw snow into my yard, he was a total JERK about it.

So does anyone know if there are any laws what-so-ever about snowblowing
snow into someone elses yard??

Thanks for reading all this and listening to me vent out my frustration,
and for any info. you might be able to give me.

P.S.
Alot of you are probably thinking why I don't just put up a fence. I
already got a few estimates LAST SPRING and because the property line is
long on the sides of our homes it will be $1700 dollars to install a 6
foot wooden stockade fence right down the property line and
unfortunately I don't have an extra $1700 for a fence right now, but
when I do get it, you can bet there will be one going up. But for now,
WHAT can I do??

Thanks!!


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Old 08-12-2005, 09:20 AM posted to rec.gardens
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"MICHELLE H." wrote in message

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and am looking for some help or information
please.
Unfortunately, I do not live in the country, but I wish I did,
I
hate the city. If I could afford it, I would move to the
country
and away from all the hustle-bustle, traffic, and people.

I found this group when I was doing a search at Google for
"problem
neighbors" so I guess I will post my problem here.


Crawl back under your rock troll bitch.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

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"MICHELLE H." wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and am looking for some help or information please.
Unfortunately, I do not live in the country, but I wish I did, I hate
the city. If I could afford it, I would move to the country and away
from all the hustle-bustle, traffic, and people.

I found this group when I was doing a search at Google for "problem
neighbors" so I guess I will post my problem here. I live in a "old"
residential part of the city where the homes in the neighborhood are all
right next to one another. The homes are probably about 30 feet from one
another. Well as you guessed it, my problem is with one of my neighbors.

My neighbor who lives to the right of me is the problem. His driveway is
on the right side of my home where the grassy area is ( my driveway is
on the the left side of my house ). His driveway is about 12 feet wide,
then he has 2 feet of ( grass ) property line, and the rest of the yard
to my house is my property.

On my grassy area, I have some flowers, rose bushes, 2 small dwarf
Alberta trees, a small pine tree and another small decorative tree. One
of the things that really angers me is that I take alot of pride and do
alot of hard work to keep my yard clean and looking nice, and he knows
this because he is always watching me all the time, because he is always
home, 24 hours a day, because he is collecting disability income from
the government because of is "bad back".

Anyway one of the things he does is he stands out on his small back
porch about every ten minutes and smokes his white Marlboro Lights, and
when he gets done, he throws his cigarette butts over into my yard!!! I
will go to bed at nightime, and wake up the next morning and go outside
to water my plants and flowers and there will be like 7 white smoke
butts on my lawn. WHY can't he throw them in his backyard?? WHY can't he
put them in a jar or a bucket?? NO, he throws them in my yard. I usually
pick up the stupid cig. butts and throw them away but what I did a few
weeks ago was start counting how many cig. butts he is throwing into my
yard. I started picking them up on Monday all the way to Sunday. One
week there was 63 in my yard. The next week there were 57, and another
week there were 65. So basically he is throwing about 60 cig. butts a
week into MY yard, not to mention his cigarette wrappers as well!!!

Now I doubt that there is anykind of law to prevent him from doing this,
but hopefully there is for my next question. In the winter he uses his
snowblower and blows all the snow from his driveway into my yard. He
runs the snowblower so high that snow hits the side of my house and my
windows. If we have a big snowstorm, all the snow in my yard, plus his
from his driveway, will bury my basement windows, my flowers, and my two
small dwarf Alberta Spruce trees. I can't understand WHY he has to throw
the snow over into my yard?? WHY can't he blow the snow down his
driveway and into his backyard??

He aims the snowblower toward my home and blows the snow into my yard,
onto my freshly shoveled front stairs, and my freshly shoveled front
sidewalk, where if someone were to fall down in front of my home, I
would be sued because of HIS SNOW!!!

Last year he was blowing the snow over into my yard, and a rock from his
driveway shot out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house!!
Now, I have TRIED to be NICE and have talked to him about this. In the
summer, he complained to me that the branches on my pine tree and my
flowering pear tree were growing toward his driveway, and that he didn't
want them to scratch his mini-van and pickup truck. So I decided to be
nice and I trimmed the branches growing toward his driveway nice and
short so that they were out of his way and there were no more problems.

So the other day when we got 4 inches of snow, he was out there bright
and early blowing the snow into my yard. So I went out there and NICELY
asked him WHY he has to blow the snow into my yard and against my house,
and he said "because he wants to clear his driveway, and doesn't want to
walk in the snow". So then I told him that I don't want him to blow the
snow into my yard and against my house because last year a rock came
flying out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house, and I don't
want to get any broken windows or holes in my new vinyl siding. So then
he said "its only snow, it'll melt, what are you gonna do about it?" So
instead of losing my temper and doing something that I would regret, I
walked away.

So, it was okay when he complained about my trees branches, I was the
nice person and trimmed them right up for him, but when I aksed him to
NOT throw snow into my yard, he was a total JERK about it.

So does anyone know if there are any laws what-so-ever about snowblowing
snow into someone elses yard??

Thanks for reading all this and listening to me vent out my frustration,
and for any info. you might be able to give me.

P.S.
Alot of you are probably thinking why I don't just put up a fence. I
already got a few estimates LAST SPRING and because the property line is
long on the sides of our homes it will be $1700 dollars to install a 6
foot wooden stockade fence right down the property line and
unfortunately I don't have an extra $1700 for a fence right now, but
when I do get it, you can bet there will be one going up. But for now,
WHAT can I do??

Thanks!!



It sounds like you both have to give in 'a little more'.

The only sin your neighbor has committed is bouncing snow off the side
of your home using his snow blower. The chute can be adjusted
downward..
Ask the neighbor politely.

Every neighbor I know in snow country allows neighbors snow over the
lot line. You seem too picky... Can you overlook minor
items?
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Old 08-12-2005, 02:00 PM posted to rec.gardens
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I'd take videos of him throwing the snow. Then turn them over to the
government agency that is paying him to stay home and make live
miserable for a neighbor.
Perhaps they'll find him a job that requires the same amount of work as
running a snow blower and take him off of his disability payments.
I'm surprised that so far everyone in the group is against you. Now if
his cat was shitting in your yard, everyone would be against him and
his cat!!

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Old 08-12-2005, 02:46 PM posted to rec.gardens
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"Pete Kruzer" wrote in message
oups.com...
I'd take videos of him throwing the snow. Then turn them over to the
government agency that is paying him to stay home and make live
miserable for a neighbor.
Perhaps they'll find him a job that requires the same amount of work as
running a snow blower and take him off of his disability payments.
I'm surprised that so far everyone in the group is against you. Now if
his cat was shitting in your yard, everyone would be against him and
his cat!!


I like this idea, especially if his snow blower doesn't have electric start.
His back's healthy enough to pull the cord?




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Old 08-12-2005, 02:59 PM posted to rec.gardens
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First of all, based on the layout you describe, you're never going to
achieve a 100% no-snow goal here. But:

In most locales, a judge will enforce civil trespass laws to stop someone
from introducing any substance or object onto a neighbor's property.
Trespass does not apply only to the unlawful entry of people. However, it's
usually enforced for such things as pesticides, or a neighbor's kid's
baseball repeatedly coming too close to you while you're at your picnic
table. You're not likely to get anywhere with the police in terms of the
snow. So, find a happy medium he

1) Tell him to aim the chute lower and stop hitting the house. Offer to show
him how some of the controls work on the machine. Explain that if he can't
manage this, then you assume he's prepared to pay for any damage to siding
or windows if a rock is included with the snow. He should be particularly
alarmed with the siding issue because you'd want a perfect color match for
the repaired section, right? If the siding's old, that could mean redoing
the whole house. Oh my. Thousands of dollars.

2) Plants: Do some research and find out if, in your climate, it's a good
thing for your PARTICULAR plants to have some snow cover. Often, it is. If
so, leave the issue alone unless the weight of the snow is damaging
branches. In that case, negotiate. If that doesn't work, call the cops while
he's operating his machine.

3) Your porch/sidewalk: Same as #1. Better aim.

4) Cigarette butts: Buy the cheapest large can of coffee you can find, and a
small bag of cat litter. Use the coffee, or throw it away if it's awful. Put
the cat litter in the can, bring it to him, and tell him to use his new ash
tray. Don't ask. Tell him. If you find one more butt, call the cops.

Beyond this, forget trying to keep ALL his snow off your property. It's not
going to happen. Your only other possible option is to put up snow fence in
the winter. It might be tall enough that his machine won't be able to throw
the snow over it. And, it's cheap & reusable.


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Old 08-12-2005, 03:12 PM posted to rec.gardens
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MICHELLE H. wrote:
Hello Everyone,

I am new here and am looking for some help or information please.
Unfortunately, I do not live in the country, but I wish I did, I hate
the city. If I could afford it, I would move to the country and away
from all the hustle-bustle, traffic, and people.

[...]

The neighbour is committing a nuisance, to use English terminoloy -
there is an equivalent American term, but I don't know what it is. Get
legal advice on what you can do about it.

The question is whether taking legal action will slap down the jerk, or
whether it will, er, inspire him to escalate his boorishness. One of the
responders to your plaint used an obscenity, which indicates he's an
American Wussy - the kind of man who is terrified of women, usually
because of his own ambiguous sexuality. It's quite possible that your
neighbour belongs to same pathetic minority, in which case it will be
difficult to find the best way to deal with him. Such people aren't
rational.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:31 PM posted to rec.gardens
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On 8 Dec 2005 05:00:59 -0800, Pete Kruzer wrote:

I'd take videos of him throwing the snow. Then turn them over to the
government agency that is paying him to stay home and make live
miserable for a neighbor.
Perhaps they'll find him a job that requires the same amount of work as
running a snow blower and take him off of his disability payments.
I'm surprised that so far everyone in the group is against you. Now if
his cat was shitting in your yard, everyone would be against him and
his cat!!


well said.
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Old 08-12-2005, 03:41 PM posted to rec.gardens
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On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:23:13 -0500, MICHELLE H. wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and am looking for some help or information please.
Unfortunately, I do not live in the country, but I wish I did, I hate
the city. If I could afford it, I would move to the country and away
from all the hustle-bustle, traffic, and people.

I found this group when I was doing a search at Google for "problem
neighbors" so I guess I will post my problem here. I live in a "old"
residential part of the city where the homes in the neighborhood are all
right next to one another. The homes are probably about 30 feet from one
another. Well as you guessed it, my problem is with one of my neighbors.

My neighbor who lives to the right of me is the problem. His driveway is
on the right side of my home where the grassy area is ( my driveway is
on the the left side of my house ). His driveway is about 12 feet wide,
then he has 2 feet of ( grass ) property line, and the rest of the yard
to my house is my property.

On my grassy area, I have some flowers, rose bushes, 2 small dwarf
Alberta trees, a small pine tree and another small decorative tree. One
of the things that really angers me is that I take alot of pride and do
alot of hard work to keep my yard clean and looking nice, and he knows
this because he is always watching me all the time, because he is always
home, 24 hours a day, because he is collecting disability income from
the government because of is "bad back".

Anyway one of the things he does is he stands out on his small back
porch about every ten minutes and smokes his white Marlboro Lights, and
when he gets done, he throws his cigarette butts over into my yard!!! I
will go to bed at nightime, and wake up the next morning and go outside
to water my plants and flowers and there will be like 7 white smoke
butts on my lawn. WHY can't he throw them in his backyard?? WHY can't he
put them in a jar or a bucket?? NO, he throws them in my yard. I usually
pick up the stupid cig. butts and throw them away but what I did a few
weeks ago was start counting how many cig. butts he is throwing into my
yard. I started picking them up on Monday all the way to Sunday. One
week there was 63 in my yard. The next week there were 57, and another
week there were 65. So basically he is throwing about 60 cig. butts a
week into MY yard, not to mention his cigarette wrappers as well!!!

Now I doubt that there is anykind of law to prevent him from doing this,
but hopefully there is for my next question. In the winter he uses his
snowblower and blows all the snow from his driveway into my yard. He
runs the snowblower so high that snow hits the side of my house and my
windows. If we have a big snowstorm, all the snow in my yard, plus his
from his driveway, will bury my basement windows, my flowers, and my two
small dwarf Alberta Spruce trees. I can't understand WHY he has to throw
the snow over into my yard?? WHY can't he blow the snow down his
driveway and into his backyard??

He aims the snowblower toward my home and blows the snow into my yard,
onto my freshly shoveled front stairs, and my freshly shoveled front
sidewalk, where if someone were to fall down in front of my home, I
would be sued because of HIS SNOW!!!

Last year he was blowing the snow over into my yard, and a rock from his
driveway shot out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house!!
Now, I have TRIED to be NICE and have talked to him about this. In the
summer, he complained to me that the branches on my pine tree and my
flowering pear tree were growing toward his driveway, and that he didn't
want them to scratch his mini-van and pickup truck. So I decided to be
nice and I trimmed the branches growing toward his driveway nice and
short so that they were out of his way and there were no more problems.

So the other day when we got 4 inches of snow, he was out there bright
and early blowing the snow into my yard. So I went out there and NICELY
asked him WHY he has to blow the snow into my yard and against my house,
and he said "because he wants to clear his driveway, and doesn't want to
walk in the snow". So then I told him that I don't want him to blow the
snow into my yard and against my house because last year a rock came
flying out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house, and I don't
want to get any broken windows or holes in my new vinyl siding. So then
he said "its only snow, it'll melt, what are you gonna do about it?" So
instead of losing my temper and doing something that I would regret, I
walked away.

So, it was okay when he complained about my trees branches, I was the
nice person and trimmed them right up for him, but when I aksed him to
NOT throw snow into my yard, he was a total JERK about it.

So does anyone know if there are any laws what-so-ever about snowblowing
snow into someone elses yard??

Thanks for reading all this and listening to me vent out my frustration,
and for any info. you might be able to give me.

P.S.
Alot of you are probably thinking why I don't just put up a fence. I
already got a few estimates LAST SPRING and because the property line is
long on the sides of our homes it will be $1700 dollars to install a 6
foot wooden stockade fence right down the property line and
unfortunately I don't have an extra $1700 for a fence right now, but
when I do get it, you can bet there will be one going up. But for now,
WHAT can I do??

Thanks!!


What he is doing is not strictly illegal, but very antisocial.
You can ignore it and get a life, or fight fire with fire.

Get yourself a video recorder and video his physical movements (not through
the windows of his property, but him in his yard. Once you have at least
three accounts of his exertions, turn the tapes and a covering ("anon" if
you want) letter to the relevant authority for fraudulent disability
payments.

Or, you can collect up those butts and return them to his porch on a daily
basis. He will soon get fed up picking them all up. Get yourself a sno
blower (or a shovel and a few hours) and send the snow back. Do everything
he does back to him - if it's ok in his mind for him to do it, it should be
ok for you to do it.

Of course, this will antagonise him and you will be at war....
not much fun, I can tell you.
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"bigjon" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:23:13 -0500, MICHELLE H. wrote:

Hello Everyone,

I am new here and am looking for some help or information please.
Unfortunately, I do not live in the country, but I wish I did, I hate
the city. If I could afford it, I would move to the country and away
from all the hustle-bustle, traffic, and people.

I found this group when I was doing a search at Google for "problem
neighbors" so I guess I will post my problem here. I live in a "old"
residential part of the city where the homes in the neighborhood are all
right next to one another. The homes are probably about 30 feet from one
another. Well as you guessed it, my problem is with one of my neighbors.

My neighbor who lives to the right of me is the problem. His driveway is
on the right side of my home where the grassy area is ( my driveway is
on the the left side of my house ). His driveway is about 12 feet wide,
then he has 2 feet of ( grass ) property line, and the rest of the yard
to my house is my property.

On my grassy area, I have some flowers, rose bushes, 2 small dwarf
Alberta trees, a small pine tree and another small decorative tree. One
of the things that really angers me is that I take alot of pride and do
alot of hard work to keep my yard clean and looking nice, and he knows
this because he is always watching me all the time, because he is always
home, 24 hours a day, because he is collecting disability income from
the government because of is "bad back".

Anyway one of the things he does is he stands out on his small back
porch about every ten minutes and smokes his white Marlboro Lights, and
when he gets done, he throws his cigarette butts over into my yard!!! I
will go to bed at nightime, and wake up the next morning and go outside
to water my plants and flowers and there will be like 7 white smoke
butts on my lawn. WHY can't he throw them in his backyard?? WHY can't he
put them in a jar or a bucket?? NO, he throws them in my yard. I usually
pick up the stupid cig. butts and throw them away but what I did a few
weeks ago was start counting how many cig. butts he is throwing into my
yard. I started picking them up on Monday all the way to Sunday. One
week there was 63 in my yard. The next week there were 57, and another
week there were 65. So basically he is throwing about 60 cig. butts a
week into MY yard, not to mention his cigarette wrappers as well!!!

Now I doubt that there is anykind of law to prevent him from doing this,
but hopefully there is for my next question. In the winter he uses his
snowblower and blows all the snow from his driveway into my yard. He
runs the snowblower so high that snow hits the side of my house and my
windows. If we have a big snowstorm, all the snow in my yard, plus his
from his driveway, will bury my basement windows, my flowers, and my two
small dwarf Alberta Spruce trees. I can't understand WHY he has to throw
the snow over into my yard?? WHY can't he blow the snow down his
driveway and into his backyard??

He aims the snowblower toward my home and blows the snow into my yard,
onto my freshly shoveled front stairs, and my freshly shoveled front
sidewalk, where if someone were to fall down in front of my home, I
would be sued because of HIS SNOW!!!

Last year he was blowing the snow over into my yard, and a rock from his
driveway shot out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house!!
Now, I have TRIED to be NICE and have talked to him about this. In the
summer, he complained to me that the branches on my pine tree and my
flowering pear tree were growing toward his driveway, and that he didn't
want them to scratch his mini-van and pickup truck. So I decided to be
nice and I trimmed the branches growing toward his driveway nice and
short so that they were out of his way and there were no more problems.

So the other day when we got 4 inches of snow, he was out there bright
and early blowing the snow into my yard. So I went out there and NICELY
asked him WHY he has to blow the snow into my yard and against my house,
and he said "because he wants to clear his driveway, and doesn't want to
walk in the snow". So then I told him that I don't want him to blow the
snow into my yard and against my house because last year a rock came
flying out from his snowblower and hit the side of my house, and I don't
want to get any broken windows or holes in my new vinyl siding. So then
he said "its only snow, it'll melt, what are you gonna do about it?" So
instead of losing my temper and doing something that I would regret, I
walked away.

So, it was okay when he complained about my trees branches, I was the
nice person and trimmed them right up for him, but when I aksed him to
NOT throw snow into my yard, he was a total JERK about it.

So does anyone know if there are any laws what-so-ever about snowblowing
snow into someone elses yard??

Thanks for reading all this and listening to me vent out my frustration,
and for any info. you might be able to give me.

P.S.
Alot of you are probably thinking why I don't just put up a fence. I
already got a few estimates LAST SPRING and because the property line is
long on the sides of our homes it will be $1700 dollars to install a 6
foot wooden stockade fence right down the property line and
unfortunately I don't have an extra $1700 for a fence right now, but
when I do get it, you can bet there will be one going up. But for now,
WHAT can I do??

Thanks!!


What he is doing is not strictly illegal, but very antisocial.
You can ignore it and get a life, or fight fire with fire.

Get yourself a video recorder and video his physical movements (not
through
the windows of his property, but him in his yard. Once you have at least
three accounts of his exertions, turn the tapes and a covering ("anon" if
you want) letter to the relevant authority for fraudulent disability
payments.

Or, you can collect up those butts and return them to his porch on a daily
basis. He will soon get fed up picking them all up. Get yourself a sno
blower (or a shovel and a few hours) and send the snow back. Do everything
he does back to him - if it's ok in his mind for him to do it, it should
be
ok for you to do it.

Of course, this will antagonise him and you will be at war....
not much fun, I can tell you.


I suppose she could also hire someone with a plow, and have an eight foot
wall of snow moved into his driveway.




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Doug Kanter wrote:

I suppose she could also hire someone with a plow, and have an eight foot
wall of snow moved into his driveway.




That's my favorite idea yet.

Best regards,
Bob
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"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

I suppose she could also hire someone with a plow, and have an eight foot
wall of snow moved into his driveway.




That's my favorite idea yet.

Best regards,
Bob


If she picked the day right, in terms of weather, she could then hose down
the snow pile, thereby creating nice, thick ice crust which would make it a
total pain in the ass to deal with. :-)


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Hey Everyone,

THANKS for ALL of the great responses and info., I really do appreciate
it!! I actually feel a little bit better now that I have "vented". I
think taking pictures and using a video camera is definitely a good
start, so that I have proof. You know, I do know that like he said "its
only snow, and it'll melt", but why run the snowblower so high that it
hits my house? I can let the blowing the snow onto my grass "slide", but
not when it is hitting my siding and windows, landing on my front
stairs, and front sidewalk, or burying my 2-3 foot dwarf Alberta Spruce
trees that I just planted this past spring, or burying my 3 basement
windows.

Why the basement windows? Because my laundry room is in the basement and
I do the laundry down there during the day, and if the windows are
buried, no natural light comes in, and I have to waste electricity
during the day by having the basement lights on.

Also, someone asked where I find the time to pickup and count the
Cigarette butts? Thats because he stands on his small back porch and
faces my house and stares at my house (or at me everytime I am outside)
and almost always throws the cig. butts in the same area, directly
across from where he is standing on his back porch and into my yard.

So what I was doing was when I was raking the leaves this past fall, I
would have 2 barrels/paper leaf bags with me. He doesn't rake his leaves
and so they all blow over into my yard. So I was going out every single
day ( Monday-Sunday ) and raking the leaves and cig. butts up into a
separate piles. I would throw the leaves into 1 barrell/bag and the cig.
butts into the other bag/barrell.

Then each day I would throw them into a mason jar after I picked them
all up. Well like I said, there were at least 7-10 in my yard per day. I
did this for 3 weeks and week #1 there were 63 total, week #2 there were
#57, and week #3 there were 65. So right now there is snow on the
ground, and of course I can't see them, because Marlboro Lights are
White cigarettes, but I figure that by time spring gets here in April (
5 months from now ) and all the snow is melted, ( and at 60 cig. butts a
week that he throws into my yard ) there will be roughly 1,600 cigarette
butts on my property.

I have all his stinky cig. butts that I collected over the 3 weeks in a
mason jar and was thinking of wrapping it up and giving it to him or
mailing it to him as a Christmas present!!!

NO, I am only kidding!!!!!!

Someone also asked me "WHY worry about the cigartte butts, because when
I mow my lawn, they will just get chewed up by the lawnmower". In
regards to the Cigerette butts, they have filters, and they will not
just grind up and disappear as if they were field stripped. You can't
just grind up the cigarette butts with the mower as someone told me.

The cigarettes have those hard cotton filters, and they almost NEVER
break down. With all the cigarette butts that my jerk neighbor throws
over here, I HAVE run them over with my lawnmower to try to get rid of
them, but the hard cotton filters just spit right back out. So unless I
pick them up by hand, they will be there forever.

I like the idea on someone checking on his Disability, because he claims
he has a "bad back" but I have seen him #1 mow his lawn in the summer,
#2 change the oil in his truck and mini-van in the driveway, #3 carry
and stack firewood this past fall in his backyard, #4 carry tables down
his driveway to his front yard to set up a tag sale, #5 dig a vegetable
garden with a garden hoe, and #6 carry bag of grocerys and big bags of
dog food into his home, to name only a few. And both his lawnmower and
snowblower are NOT an electric start, its one of those where he has to
pull the rope.

Thanks Everybody!!!

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Keep in mind that some people are raised as pigs, by older pigs, and are
totally unsocialized. I used to have neighbors whose teenage daughter would
go out for ice cream with her friends almost every night, and as she
returned, she and her pig friends would toss ice cream cups, plastic spoons
and napkins out the car window. When we spoke to her father, who was also a
pig, and explained that we didn't appreciate trash all over the lawn &
street, he acted like this was a revelation.

You may need to train your pig. This process is sometimes more effective if
you lead him by the nose to the conclusion that any behavioral changes were
his idea. If you reach the point of calling the police, they'll probably ask
if you've tried talking to the pig. At least you can say you did.

Try this:

You: Listen, is there a good reason why you keep tossing your cigarette
butts onto my lawn?

That's it. Shut up, and stare at him. It's a totally open-ended question
which requires that he either speak, or slam the door in your face. There is
no possible good reason, so no matter what he says, you respond "I'm sorry.
I must not have made myself clear. I said 'a GOOD reason'. Is there one?" He
may actually stop doing it. If not, call the cops. You've done all you can.


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On Thu, 08 Dec 2005 15:30:25 GMT, Doug Kanter wrote:

"zxcvbob" wrote in message
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Doug Kanter wrote:

I suppose she could also hire someone with a plow, and have an eight foot
wall of snow moved into his driveway.




That's my favorite idea yet.

Best regards,
Bob


If she picked the day right, in terms of weather, she could then hose down
the snow pile, thereby creating nice, thick ice crust which would make it a
total pain in the ass to deal with. :-)


ROFL


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