We are leading manufacturer and exporter of 100% Natural eco friendly organic certified Neem Oil Bio pesticide, Neem cake organic fertilizer, Neem cake organic manure, Neem karanja oil, spices, Neem oil foliar spray, karanja cake, vermi compost, Coir peat, coco coir peat soap nut powder and neem based agriculture products.
You are invite to visit to our web site http://www.organicneem.com to get more information about our products.

With warm regards

Shakthi vel. C
Exports Manager
PARKER INDIA GROUP
http://www.organicneem.com
Ph : 91-44-24743986
Fax : 91-44-23701103
E-mail :

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:01:41 +0000, parkergroup
wrote:


We are leading manufacturer and exporter of 100% Natural eco friendly
organic certified Neem Oil Bio pesticide, Neem cake organic fertilizer,
Neem cake organic manure, Neem karanja oil, spices, Neem oil foliar
spray, karanja cake, vermi compost, Coir peat, coco coir peat soap nut
powder and neem based agriculture products.
You are invite to visit to our web site
http://www.organicneem.com to get more information about our products.

With warm regards

Shakthi vel. C
Exports Manager
PARKER INDIA GROUP
http://www.organicneem.com
Ph : 91-44-24743986
Fax : 91-44-23701103
E-mail :

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

Thanks

Persephone

Persephone wrote in message
...

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

I jumped onto the neem oil bandwagon several years ago. Had as many pests
as when I didn't use any pesticides of any kind. Am now back to tried and
true vegetable oil (left over from tempura cooking) laced with liquid
kitchen detergent mixed with water. A whole lot less expensive than neem
oil and tons more effective.

In article , Persephone wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:01:41 +0000, parkergroup
wrote:


We are leading manufacturer and exporter of 100% Natural eco friendly
organic certified Neem Oil Bio pesticide, Neem cake organic fertilizer,
Neem cake organic manure, Neem karanja oil, spices, Neem oil foliar
spray, karanja cake, vermi compost, Coir peat, coco coir peat soap nut
powder and neem based agriculture products.
You are invite to visit to our web site
http://www.organicneem.com to get more information about our products.

With warm regards

Shakthi vel. C
Exports Manager
PARKER INDIA GROUP
http://www.organicneem.com
Ph : 91-44-24743986
Fax : 91-44-23701103
E-mail :

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

Thanks

Persephone


"Neem Worship: Myths vs Realities for the Usefulness of Neem Oil"
http://www.paghat.com/neemworship.html

-paggers
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In article ,
Persephone wrote:

On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:01:41 +0000, parkergroup
wrote:


We are leading manufacturer and exporter of 100% Natural
eco
friendly organic certified Neem Oil Bio pesticide, Neem
cake
organic fertilizer, Neem cake organic manure, Neem karanja
oil,
spices, Neem oil foliar spray, karanja cake, vermi compost,
Coir peat, coco coir peat soap nut powder and neem based
agriculture products.
You are invite to visit to our web site
http://www.organicneem.com to get more information about
our
products.

With warm regards

Shakthi vel. C
Exports Manager
PARKER INDIA GROUP
http://www.organicneem.com
Ph : 91-44-24743986
Fax : 91-44-23701103
E-mail :

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

Thanks

Persephone


"Neem Worship: Myths vs Realities for the Usefulness of Neem
Oil"
http://www.paghat.com/neemworship.html

-paggers

Long time no see (?) anyway have you purchased your boat yet?

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:44:25 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote:


Persephone wrote in message
m...

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

I jumped onto the neem oil bandwagon several years ago. Had as many pests
as when I didn't use any pesticides of any kind. Am now back to tried and
true vegetable oil (left over from tempura cooking) laced with liquid
kitchen detergent mixed with water. A whole lot less expensive than neem
oil and tons more effective.

WOW!! Thanks, pal -- I just love hearing about non-commercial
products. Can you give ratio of oil to-detergent-to water?

Also: Where do you recommend it be used? Straight question.
IOW, on food plants (leafy and/or root), or just decorative.

Thanks

Persephone
IOW -

Persephone wrote in message

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:44:25 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote:


Persephone wrote in message
...

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem
products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

I jumped onto the neem oil bandwagon several years ago. Had
as
many pests as when I didn't use any pesticides of any kind.
Am
now back to tried and true vegetable oil (left over from
tempura
cooking) laced with liquid kitchen detergent mixed with
water. A
whole lot less expensive than neem oil and tons more
effective.

WOW!! Thanks, pal -- I just love hearing about non-commercial
products. Can you give ratio of oil to-detergent-to water?

Also: Where do you recommend it be used? Straight question.
IOW, on food plants (leafy and/or root), or just decorative.

Thanks

Persephone
IOW -

I use:

2 tsp dish soap
2 tbsp veg oil
1 gallon water

Shake well and add to hose end sprayer set to 2.5 to 4 oz. Keep
the solution in the sprayer mixed up. A golf ball added to
sprayer helps.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

My tried and true is:

1 cup vegetable oil
1 Tablespoon kitchen detergent

Mix thoroughly and store in container.

For use, dilute 1 to 2 teaspoons of this oi/detergent mix to one cup of
water. That's about 5 - 10 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of water.
Pour diluted mix into a sprayer, shake well, and apply. Non toxic and non
persistent. Great for aphids, scale, mealy bugs, etc. But because it is
non persistent, you need to keep spraying at regular intervals. It works, I
understand, by the oil basically suffocating the pests. The kitchen
detergent serves to emulsify the oil.

I've had success against powdery mildew by adding 2-4 or so teaspoons of
baking soda to one cup of the diluted mix and spraying.

I use on all plants, food or not. If recently sprayed upon with this
mixture, wash/rinse vegetables/fruit thoroughly...but then again, you're
talking basically vegetable oil and kitchen detergent.

"Travis M." wrote in message
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Persephone wrote in message

On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:44:25 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote:


Persephone wrote in message
...

I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

I jumped onto the neem oil bandwagon several years ago. Had as
many pests as when I didn't use any pesticides of any kind. Am
now back to tried and true vegetable oil (left over from tempura
cooking) laced with liquid kitchen detergent mixed with water. A
whole lot less expensive than neem oil and tons more effective.

WOW!! Thanks, pal -- I just love hearing about non-commercial
products. Can you give ratio of oil to-detergent-to water?

Also: Where do you recommend it be used? Straight question.
IOW, on food plants (leafy and/or root), or just decorative.

Thanks

Persephone
IOW -

I use:

2 tsp dish soap
2 tbsp veg oil
1 gallon water

Shake well and add to hose end sprayer set to 2.5 to 4 oz. Keep the
solution in the sprayer mixed up. A golf ball added to sprayer helps.

wups...mistake here. It's 6 tsp per fluid ounce, not 3. So that "about 5 -
10 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of water" should read "about 2
1/5 - 5 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of water" . Apologies for the
goof.

"Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote in message
t...
My tried and true is:

1 cup vegetable oil
1 Tablespoon kitchen detergent

Mix thoroughly and store in container.

For use, dilute 1 to 2 teaspoons of this oi/detergent mix to one cup of
water. That's about 5 - 10 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of
water. Pour diluted mix into a sprayer, shake well, and apply. Non toxic
and non persistent. Great for aphids, scale, mealy bugs, etc. But
because it is non persistent, you need to keep spraying at regular
intervals. It works, I understand, by the oil basically suffocating the
pests. The kitchen detergent serves to emulsify the oil.

I've had success against powdery mildew by adding 2-4 or so teaspoons of
baking soda to one cup of the diluted mix and spraying.

I use on all plants, food or not. If recently sprayed upon with this
mixture, wash/rinse vegetables/fruit thoroughly...but then again, you're
talking basically vegetable oil and kitchen detergent.

On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:14:02 GMT, "Lawrence Akutagawa"
wrote:

wups...mistake here. It's 6 tsp per fluid ounce, not 3. So that "about 5 -
10 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of water" should read "about 2
1/5 - 5 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of water" . Apologies for the
goof.

"Lawrence Akutagawa" wrote in message
et...
My tried and true is:

1 cup vegetable oil
1 Tablespoon kitchen detergent

Mix thoroughly and store in container.

For use, dilute 1 to 2 teaspoons of this oi/detergent mix to one cup of
water. That's about 5 - 10 fluid ounces of the mix to one gallon of
water. Pour diluted mix into a sprayer, shake well, and apply. Non toxic
and non persistent. Great for aphids, scale, mealy bugs, etc. But
because it is non persistent, you need to keep spraying at regular
intervals. It works, I understand, by the oil basically suffocating the
pests. The kitchen detergent serves to emulsify the oil.

I've had success against powdery mildew by adding 2-4 or so teaspoons of
baking soda to one cup of the diluted mix and spraying.

I use on all plants, food or not. If recently sprayed upon with this
mixture, wash/rinse vegetables/fruit thoroughly...but then again, you're
talking basically vegetable oil and kitchen detergent.

Gracias, amigo - I will certainly give it a try. Much obliged for
formula.

--

Persephone

they (neem products) are DEFINITELY not THE tree of the 21st
Century---according to WHO (World Health Organisation) of the UN---THE tree
of the 21st Century and beyond is Moringa oleifera, per an article By MARK
FRITZ, Times Staff Writer
Copyright 2000 Los Angeles Times -- Moringa provides: Food, Decontaminates
pollution from flowing bodies of water, in addition to "still" bodies of
water, provides excellent shade for ruminants, etc.

WHO has been arranging for seeds and 3-yr. old trees to be sent to "third
world" countries---i'm thinking new orleans has qualified to be a "third
world country" for some time now...even BEFORE katrina--AND, Moringa would
thrive quite nicely there---but i guess WHO means the 3rd country from the
sun....or something!


--
With Malus toward none, and Cherry-Trees toward all.



I recently read -- don't remember where -- that neem products
aren't necessarily all they are/were cracked up to be.

Any info out there?

Thanks

Persephone