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Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? Thank you, New |
Search for Latin (botanical) Names for certain roses
"New Junk" wrote in message om... Hello. Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? The roses you are talking about are likely to be hybrids and may not have latin names but hybrid names like "Peace" Derryl Thank you, New |
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New Junk wrote: Hello. Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? Thank you, New Most of the commonly available roses are hybrids, so their botanical names will simply be Rosa, followed by the cultivar name in single quotes. There are a few species roses commonly planted - like Rosa glauca, R. rugosa, R. chinensis 'Mutabilis', etc. Got any specifics in mind? I'm sure we could help....... pam - gardengal |
Search for Latin (botanical) Names for certain roses
Derryl Killan wrote:
: "New Junk" wrote in message : om... : Hello. : Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific : roses? : The roses you are talking about are likely to be hybrids and may not have : latin names but hybrid names like "Peace" Roses have been hybridized so extensively and for such a very long time that the vast majority are variations on a few basic species. The cultivar 'Peace' would be Rosa 'Peace' but is rarely referred to that way. If you are interested in actual species roses (wild roses), try a search for 'species roses' on Google. A few starting points for roses: http://www.everyrose.com/ http://www.rosarian.com/ Cheers! -- Karen The Garden Gate http://garden-gate.prairienet.org ================================================== ================= "If you have a garden and a library, you have everything you need." ^and cats -- Cicero ================================================== ================= On the Web since 1994 Forbes Best of Web 2002 |
Search for Latin (botanical) Names for certain roses
On Fri, 21 Mar 2003 21:31:18 GMT, "Derryl Killan" wrote:
The roses you are talking about are likely to be hybrids and may not have latin names but hybrid names like "Peace" Roses come in classes. Most classes of roses can be found at www.vintagegardens.com |
RG: Search for Latin (botanical) Names for certain roses
Ok. I don't know what a "cultivar" name is anyway, but I'm looking for
the latin names of the following four roses. I'll give you all the info I have on each and maybe you can help me: 1) Jacqueline aka: Baccarat, Baccará®, MEIger Class: Florists rose, Hybrid Tea, Large-flowered Seed: Happiness Pollen: Independence Breeding: Bred in France (1954) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Orange-red & orange-red blend blooms. No fragrance. 75 petals. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. United States Patent No: USPP002183 2) Jacqueline Du Pré (shrub rose) aka: HARwanna Class: Shrub Seed: Radox Bouquet Pollen: Maigold Breeding: Bred in England (1988) by HARKNESS. Introduced in England (1988) by Harkness & Co. Ltd.. Bloom: White, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Lemon, Musk, Strong fragrance. 15 petals. Average diameter 3". Cupped, large, single-to-semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. 3) Jacqueline Humery(a hybrid musk) aka: LENtapo, LLX8851 Class: Hybrid Musk Seed: Serpent Vert x Tapis Volant® Pollen: Robe Fleurie x Poesie (Hybrid Musk, Lens, 1982) Breeding: Bred in Belgium (1995) by LENS. Introduced in Belgium (1995) by Louis Lens N.V./Pépinières Louis Lens SA. Bloom: Light pink [ARS lp], white and pink, white reverse, white, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Strong fragrance. 12 to 16 petals. Average diameter 2½". Medium, semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. Notes: According to Louis Lens, this rose is descended from 'Tapis Volant', 'Poesie' and 'Maria-Mathilda 4) Jacqueline Nebout aka: City of Adelaide, MEIchoiju, Saulam-Roos Class: Cluster-flowered, Floribunda Breeding: Bred in France (1990) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Medium pink [ARS mp] blooms. Mild fragrance. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. --- P.S. All this info from www.helpmefind.com, but it lists NO latin names! Very frustrating since there is so much room for confusion. At least one of them has a patent number! Thanks, New Pam wrote in message ... New Junk wrote: Hello. Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? Thank you, New Most of the commonly available roses are hybrids, so their botanical names will simply be Rosa, followed by the cultivar name in single quotes. There are a few species roses commonly planted - like Rosa glauca, R. rugosa, R. chinensis 'Mutabilis', etc. Got any specifics in mind? I'm sure we could help....... pam - gardengal |
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most of the roses that you see today have been bred extensively and dont really
have specific botanical names, other than Rosa, and the cultivar name. Cultivar is short for cultivated variety. It basically means that somewhere down the line someone either bred various roses to get that variety, or they stumbled upon a different variety that somehow mutated and had different qualities than the original. Toad |
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Latin names are funny, if I point at a small spring bulb and recite
it's name for a curious friend, "Reticulated Iris", I sound very smart, even pretentious, and get named posseser of a green thumb. These benefactors of gardening awards fear latin names, but if I point at a large leafed perrenial and ask, "what is that?", they respond with the latin, "Hosta", not the common name, Plaintain Lily. Calling something Hosta is certainly easier all around.No one will ever forget either. Call the roses that: "Those are hosta roses." :) TK |
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OK - here is Latin Plant Names 101: Every plant has at least two names - a genus and
species - and they are universally identified by these two names. A number of plants will have an additional name - a cultivar or 'cultivated variety' name, which indicates it is not a naturally occuring plant but has been cultivated for some particular feature - bloom size or color, foliage variegation, fall color, long bloom season, etc., etc. The exception to this two name rule are hybrids or plants which have been bred from two different species and even a good many of them have at least two names - for example, Viburnum x juddii - the 'x' denotes that it is a hybrid. If a plant is very highly hybridized so that its original species parentage is so muddied as to be unclear or unknown, the 'x' and the hybrid name are dropped. This is the case with most modern roses - they have been so highly hybridized that the only Latin they will have is the genus, Rosa. The remaining names are the cultivar names. Therefore, all of your roses will be referred to simply as Rosa 'Jacqueline' or Rosa 'Jacqueline Humery', etc, although most folks just refer to them as roses:-)) HTH pam - gardengal New Junk wrote: Ok. I don't know what a "cultivar" name is anyway, but I'm looking for the latin names of the following four roses. I'll give you all the info I have on each and maybe you can help me: 1) Jacqueline aka: Baccarat, Baccará®, MEIger Class: Florists rose, Hybrid Tea, Large-flowered Seed: Happiness Pollen: Independence Breeding: Bred in France (1954) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Orange-red & orange-red blend blooms. No fragrance. 75 petals. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. United States Patent No: USPP002183 2) Jacqueline Du Pré (shrub rose) aka: HARwanna Class: Shrub Seed: Radox Bouquet Pollen: Maigold Breeding: Bred in England (1988) by HARKNESS. Introduced in England (1988) by Harkness & Co. Ltd.. Bloom: White, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Lemon, Musk, Strong fragrance. 15 petals. Average diameter 3". Cupped, large, single-to-semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. 3) Jacqueline Humery(a hybrid musk) aka: LENtapo, LLX8851 Class: Hybrid Musk Seed: Serpent Vert x Tapis Volant® Pollen: Robe Fleurie x Poesie (Hybrid Musk, Lens, 1982) Breeding: Bred in Belgium (1995) by LENS. Introduced in Belgium (1995) by Louis Lens N.V./Pépinières Louis Lens SA. Bloom: Light pink [ARS lp], white and pink, white reverse, white, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Strong fragrance. 12 to 16 petals. Average diameter 2½". Medium, semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. Notes: According to Louis Lens, this rose is descended from 'Tapis Volant', 'Poesie' and 'Maria-Mathilda 4) Jacqueline Nebout aka: City of Adelaide, MEIchoiju, Saulam-Roos Class: Cluster-flowered, Floribunda Breeding: Bred in France (1990) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Medium pink [ARS mp] blooms. Mild fragrance. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. --- P.S. All this info from www.helpmefind.com, but it lists NO latin names! Very frustrating since there is so much room for confusion. At least one of them has a patent number! Thanks, New Pam wrote in message ... New Junk wrote: Hello. Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? Thank you, New Most of the commonly available roses are hybrids, so their botanical names will simply be Rosa, followed by the cultivar name in single quotes. There are a few species roses commonly planted - like Rosa glauca, R. rugosa, R. chinensis 'Mutabilis', etc. Got any specifics in mind? I'm sure we could help....... pam - gardengal |
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thank you
Pam wrote in message ... OK - here is Latin Plant Names 101: Every plant has at least two names - a genus and species - and they are universally identified by these two names. A number of plants will have an additional name - a cultivar or 'cultivated variety' name, which indicates it is not a naturally occuring plant but has been cultivated for some particular feature - bloom size or color, foliage variegation, fall color, long bloom season, etc., etc. The exception to this two name rule are hybrids or plants which have been bred from two different species and even a good many of them have at least two names - for example, Viburnum x juddii - the 'x' denotes that it is a hybrid. If a plant is very highly hybridized so that its original species parentage is so muddied as to be unclear or unknown, the 'x' and the hybrid name are dropped. This is the case with most modern roses - they have been so highly hybridized that the only Latin they will have is the genus, Rosa. The remaining names are the cultivar names. Therefore, all of your roses will be referred to simply as Rosa 'Jacqueline' or Rosa 'Jacqueline Humery', etc, although most folks just refer to them as roses:-)) HTH pam - gardengal New Junk wrote: Ok. I don't know what a "cultivar" name is anyway, but I'm looking for the latin names of the following four roses. I'll give you all the info I have on each and maybe you can help me: 1) Jacqueline aka: Baccarat, Baccará®, MEIger Class: Florists rose, Hybrid Tea, Large-flowered Seed: Happiness Pollen: Independence Breeding: Bred in France (1954) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Orange-red & orange-red blend blooms. No fragrance. 75 petals. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. United States Patent No: USPP002183 2) Jacqueline Du Pré (shrub rose) aka: HARwanna Class: Shrub Seed: Radox Bouquet Pollen: Maigold Breeding: Bred in England (1988) by HARKNESS. Introduced in England (1988) by Harkness & Co. Ltd.. Bloom: White, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Lemon, Musk, Strong fragrance. 15 petals. Average diameter 3". Cupped, large, single-to-semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. 3) Jacqueline Humery(a hybrid musk) aka: LENtapo, LLX8851 Class: Hybrid Musk Seed: Serpent Vert x Tapis Volant® Pollen: Robe Fleurie x Poesie (Hybrid Musk, Lens, 1982) Breeding: Bred in Belgium (1995) by LENS. Introduced in Belgium (1995) by Louis Lens N.V./Pépinières Louis Lens SA. Bloom: Light pink [ARS lp], white and pink, white reverse, white, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Strong fragrance. 12 to 16 petals. Average diameter 2½". Medium, semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. Notes: According to Louis Lens, this rose is descended from 'Tapis Volant', 'Poesie' and 'Maria-Mathilda 4) Jacqueline Nebout aka: City of Adelaide, MEIchoiju, Saulam-Roos Class: Cluster-flowered, Floribunda Breeding: Bred in France (1990) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Medium pink [ARS mp] blooms. Mild fragrance. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. --- P.S. All this info from www.helpmefind.com, but it lists NO latin names! Very frustrating since there is so much room for confusion. At least one of them has a patent number! Thanks, New Pam wrote in message ... New Junk wrote: Hello. Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? Thank you, New Most of the commonly available roses are hybrids, so their botanical names will simply be Rosa, followed by the cultivar name in single quotes. There are a few species roses commonly planted - like Rosa glauca, R. rugosa, R. chinensis 'Mutabilis', etc. Got any specifics in mind? I'm sure we could help....... pam - gardengal -- |
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They are complex hydrids of garden origin. They are not species nor wild
hybrids so they will not have "Latin names" other than belonging in the genus Rosa. They are cultivars. If you don't know what a cultivar is, then look the term up and find out what it means. Wasn't this question already answered in the botany newsgroup? What more do you want? Why do you want "Latin names" so badly? New Junk wrote in message om... Ok. I don't know what a "cultivar" name is anyway, but I'm looking for the latin names of the following four roses. I'll give you all the info I have on each and maybe you can help me: 1) Jacqueline aka: Baccarat, Baccará®, MEIger Class: Florists rose, Hybrid Tea, Large-flowered Seed: Happiness Pollen: Independence Breeding: Bred in France (1954) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Orange-red & orange-red blend blooms. No fragrance. 75 petals. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. United States Patent No: USPP002183 2) Jacqueline Du Pré (shrub rose) aka: HARwanna Class: Shrub Seed: Radox Bouquet Pollen: Maigold Breeding: Bred in England (1988) by HARKNESS. Introduced in England (1988) by Harkness & Co. Ltd.. Bloom: White, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Lemon, Musk, Strong fragrance. 15 petals. Average diameter 3". Cupped, large, single-to-semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. 3) Jacqueline Humery(a hybrid musk) aka: LENtapo, LLX8851 Class: Hybrid Musk Seed: Serpent Vert x Tapis Volant® Pollen: Robe Fleurie x Poesie (Hybrid Musk, Lens, 1982) Breeding: Bred in Belgium (1995) by LENS. Introduced in Belgium (1995) by Louis Lens N.V./Pépinières Louis Lens SA. Bloom: Light pink [ARS lp], white and pink, white reverse, white, near white & white blend [w] blooms. Strong fragrance. 12 to 16 petals. Average diameter 2½". Medium, semi-double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. Notes: According to Louis Lens, this rose is descended from 'Tapis Volant', 'Poesie' and 'Maria-Mathilda 4) Jacqueline Nebout aka: City of Adelaide, MEIchoiju, Saulam-Roos Class: Cluster-flowered, Floribunda Breeding: Bred in France (1990) by MEILLAND. Bloom: Medium pink [ARS mp] blooms. Mild fragrance. Double bloom form. Repeats its bloom again later in the season. --- P.S. All this info from www.helpmefind.com, but it lists NO latin names! Very frustrating since there is so much room for confusion. At least one of them has a patent number! Thanks, New Pam wrote in message ... New Junk wrote: Hello. Does anyone know where online I can look up the Latin Names of specific roses? Thank you, New Most of the commonly available roses are hybrids, so their botanical names will simply be Rosa, followed by the cultivar name in single quotes. There are a few species roses commonly planted - like Rosa glauca, R. rugosa, R. chinensis 'Mutabilis', etc. Got any specifics in mind? I'm sure we could help....... pam - gardengal |
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Are you a crack baby, Trish? That's the dumbest thing I've ever read.
Considering some of the idiotic things posted here, that's saying a lot!!!! Your curious friends must be easily impressed or mentally challenged. Would say you have a brown nose rather than a green thumb. Why don't "common names" work? "Reticulated Iris" refers to a whole group of species and hybrids rather than a single plant. The same is true for "Plaintain Lily". Simply saying "Hosta" is alomst as bad but at least its a step in the right direction. Its better to think of them as proper names rather than "Latin" names. You surely would rather be called Trish K. than "Stupid Girl", if you get the connection. Trish K. wrote in message ... Latin names are funny, if I point at a small spring bulb and recite it's name for a curious friend, "Reticulated Iris", I sound very smart, even pretentious, and get named posseser of a green thumb. These benefactors of gardening awards fear latin names, but if I point at a large leafed perrenial and ask, "what is that?", they respond with the latin, "Hosta", not the common name, Plaintain Lily. Calling something Hosta is certainly easier all around.No one will ever forget either. Call the roses that: "Those are hosta roses." :) TK |
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Wasn't this question already answered in the botany newsgroup?
Don't know, no one replied to me. What more do you want? Why do you want "Latin names" so badly? Latin names for plants avoid confusion. The name for "jacqueline du pre" in france may be different for the same flower in africa. When everyone uses latin names, there is less confusion. This is the method I use when I buy essential oils fromm botanicals. I just figured the same system applied with roses. I'm planning a wedding and I wouldn't want to order the WRONG flowers because of a name mix up. The flowers are sentimental to me. Thanks, New |
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You have it all mixed up, dude. You figured wrong.
You want fancy named cultivar roses not rose species for your wedding. Cultivar names for roses (and all other plants) published after Jan. 1, 1959 are not allowed to be in Latin form according to the International Code of Nomenclature for Cultivated Plants. New Junk wrote in message om... Wasn't this question already answered in the botany newsgroup? Don't know, no one replied to me. What more do you want? Why do you want "Latin names" so badly? Latin names for plants avoid confusion. The name for "jacqueline du pre" in france may be different for the same flower in africa. When everyone uses latin names, there is less confusion. This is the method I use when I buy essential oils fromm botanicals. I just figured the same system applied with roses. I'm planning a wedding and I wouldn't want to order the WRONG flowers because of a name mix up. The flowers are sentimental to me. Thanks, New |
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