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Purchgdss 30-03-2003 04:32 PM

Help identifying.......
 
Looking to identify two trees that I have absolutely fallen in love with.......

One is commonly called a "tulip tree". It's blooming now in Charlotte, nc
(zone 7) and has pink blooms but not leafing out yet.

The other is apparently an indigenous tree. Has a spindly growth habit that
blooms beautiful small purple flowers along it's long branches. Also has not
leafed out yet. It grows EVERYWHERE down here, but I haven't found one small
enough and unclaimed to dig up.

Besides, my son has pointed out that digging up a tree (even unclaimed) is just
a step above stealing and so that is not an option since I must practice what I
preach.

HELP!

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

VoySager 30-03-2003 04:56 PM

Help identifying.......
 
Looking to identify two trees

One is commonly called a "tulip tree". It's blooming now in Charlotte, nc
(zone 7) and has pink blooms but not leafing out yet.



Probably Magnolia x soulangiana

http://www.hort.net/gallery/view/mag/magso/


The other is apparently an indigenous tree. Has a spindly growth habit that
blooms beautiful small purple flowers along it's long branches. Also has not
leafed out yet. It grows EVERYWHERE down here, but I haven't found one small
enough and unclaimed to dig up.



Probably Paulownia tomentosa

http://www.hear.org/pier/patomp.htm

You likely haven't found one "small enough... to dig up"
because of its extremely fast growth when young, "as much as 8 to 10 feet in a
single year". (Dirr, "Manual of Woody Landscape Plants)



spampot 30-03-2003 04:56 PM

Help identifying.......
 
Purchgdss wrote:
Looking to identify two trees that I have absolutely fallen in love with.......

One is commonly called a "tulip tree". It's blooming now in Charlotte, nc
(zone 7) and has pink blooms but not leafing out yet.

The other is apparently an indigenous tree. Has a spindly growth habit that
blooms beautiful small purple flowers along it's long branches. Also has not
leafed out yet. It grows EVERYWHERE down here, but I haven't found one small
enough and unclaimed to dig up.


Sounds exactly like a redbud (cercis canadensis).

Besides, my son has pointed out that digging up a tree (even unclaimed) is just
a step above stealing and so that is not an option since I must practice what I
preach.

HELP!

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine




spampot 30-03-2003 05:32 PM

Help identifying.......
 
VoySager wrote:
Looking to identify two trees



One is commonly called a "tulip tree". It's blooming now in Charlotte, nc
(zone 7) and has pink blooms but not leafing out yet.




Probably Magnolia x soulangiana

http://www.hort.net/gallery/view/mag/magso/



The other is apparently an indigenous tree. Has a spindly growth habit that
blooms beautiful small purple flowers along it's long branches. Also has not
leafed out yet. It grows EVERYWHERE down here, but I haven't found one small
enough and unclaimed to dig up.




Probably Paulownia tomentosa

http://www.hear.org/pier/patomp.htm

You likely haven't found one "small enough... to dig up"
because of its extremely fast growth when young, "as much as 8 to 10 feet in a
single year". (Dirr, "Manual of Woody Landscape Plants)



Paulownia blossoms occur in clusters, rather like chestnut "candles,"
though; not the blooms along the branches before leafing out. I'm sure
it's a redbud (cercis canadensis).


Purchgdss 30-03-2003 07:32 PM

Help identifying.......
 
Looking to identify two trees

One is commonly called a "tulip tree". It's blooming now in Charlotte, nc
(zone 7) and has pink blooms but not leafing out yet.



Probably Magnolia x soulangiana


THAT'S IT! TY!

The other is apparently an indigenous tree. Has a spindly growth habit that
blooms beautiful small purple flowers along it's long branches. Also has

not
leafed out yet. It grows EVERYWHERE down here, but I haven't found one

small
enough and unclaimed to dig up.


Probably Paulownia tomentosa


Nope. 1 for two ain't bad tho. LOL It's not the cercis canadensis either.
That's too red and these are really a pretty light purple.

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

Mike Prager 30-03-2003 08:44 PM

Help identifying.......
 
On 30 Mar 2003 18:23:35 GMT, unya
(Purchgdss) wrote:

Nope. 1 for two ain't bad tho. LOL It's not the cercis canadensis either.
That's too red and these are really a pretty light purple.


They come in numerous varieties, so I woudn't rule it out
based on color.

Mike Prager
Beaufort, NC (on the coast in zone 8a)
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VoySager 30-03-2003 10:20 PM

Help identifying.......
 
spampot wrote:

Paulownia blossoms occur in clusters, rather like chestnut "candles,"
though; not the blooms along the branches before leafing out. I'm sure
it's a redbud (cercis canadensis).



Yep, good call, I like your analysis better than my guess...

Is redbud a prolific self-sower? I'm not aware that it is here in
near-coastal PA.

Bill

spampot 31-03-2003 11:56 PM

Help identifying.......
 
Mike Prager wrote:
On 30 Mar 2003 18:23:35 GMT, unya
(Purchgdss) wrote:


Nope. 1 for two ain't bad tho. LOL It's not the cercis canadensis either.
That's too red and these are really a pretty light purple.



They come in numerous varieties, so I woudn't rule it out
based on color.

Mike Prager
Beaufort, NC (on the coast in zone 8a)
(Remove symbols from email address to reply.)


Most of the ones I've seen are light purple, too, but they vary in
intensity; in fact I've always wondered why they're called REDbud! The
spindly growth habit points to redbud, too. If the leaves are
heart-shaped when they come out, I'll insist that it's a redbud. ;)


spampot 01-04-2003 01:56 AM

Help identifying.......
 
VoySager wrote:
spampot wrote:


Paulownia blossoms occur in clusters, rather like chestnut "candles,"
though; not the blooms along the branches before leafing out. I'm sure
it's a redbud (cercis canadensis).




Yep, good call, I like your analysis better than my guess...

Is redbud a prolific self-sower? I'm not aware that it is here in
near-coastal PA.

Bill


Well, mine came from my grandmother's garden in central Illinois (I'm in
Maryland), and hers always had lots of seedlings growing up around it.
OTOH, hers was huge, probably the biggest redbud I've ever seen in my
life (it's at least 70 years old), so it had a lot of seed-cases to
drop. Mine, and those of my siblings who have them, haven't done any
seeding yet, but the tallest is under six feet.


Purchgdss 03-04-2003 03:44 AM

Help identifying.......
 
I live just 25 miles from Charlotte, NC and the native trees you see
blooming now are the Redbuds. If you drive down I-85 and look to the sides
of the road, you see them in the midst of the dormant tress,
purplish-lavendar flowers on dark, spindly branches.


YES! That's them..... I'm sorry for the assertion otherwise...... K. Now how
"illegal" is it to dig one up that's growing wild and perhaps unclaimed on a
duke power access ramp? I found the perfect size and form one growing there
and I want it sooooooooooooooo bad my teeth hurt.

This is the time of
year in the NC Piedmont when the Magnolia soulangiana and Redbuds are the
most prolific bloomers. Next come the Dogwoods. You may notice after our
cold spell this past weekend that the Magnolias will look a little dingy.
They are quite frost tender.


The one I have at work is BEAUTIFUL still. I work in Clover so maybe it wasn't
"so" bad.



"Purchgdss" wrote in message
...
Looking to identify two trees

One is commonly called a "tulip tree". It's blooming now in Charlotte,

nc
(zone 7) and has pink blooms but not leafing out yet.


Probably Magnolia x soulangiana


THAT'S IT! TY!

The other is apparently an indigenous tree. Has a spindly growth habit

that
blooms beautiful small purple flowers along it's long branches. Also

has
not
leafed out yet. It grows EVERYWHERE down here, but I haven't found one
small
enough and unclaimed to dig up.


Probably Paulownia tomentosa


Nope. 1 for two ain't bad tho. LOL It's not the cercis canadensis

either.
That's too red and these are really a pretty light purple.

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine



Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

Frogleg 03-04-2003 03:20 PM

Help identifying.......
 
On 03 Apr 2003 02:21:57 GMT, unya (Purchgdss) wrote:

Now how
"illegal" is it to dig one up that's growing wild and perhaps unclaimed on a
duke power access ramp? I found the perfect size and form one growing there
and I want it sooooooooooooooo bad my teeth hurt.


There are many rules, regs, and laws regarding digging up "unclaimed"
plants. Some may be "protected" by state law, others by the rights of
property owners. Your best bet would be to take the high road -- try
to find out the ownership of the land, and ask permission. Get it in
writing, so when you're out there digging, you don't have to spend the
afternoon in lockup when someone sees you. :-) There's a dogwood tree
"growing wild" (that is, the birds planted it, not me) in my back
yard, and I'd be pretty irate if someone came around and dug it up.


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