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higgledy 21-02-2006 08:19 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Doug Kanter 21-02-2006 08:27 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"higgledy" wrote in message
oups.com...
I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Crazy compared to whom?



George Shirley 21-02-2006 09:05 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
higgledy wrote:
I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Pinetree Seeds and Burpee's.

George


higgledy 22-02-2006 01:48 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Well, they charge the same prices as does my local Homoe Depot. So why
pay for shipping? That is crazy


Doug Kanter 22-02-2006 03:18 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"higgledy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, they charge the same prices as does my local Homoe Depot. So why
pay for shipping? That is crazy


Variety, maybe. And, a month from now, the Home Depot morons will be doing
everything they can to murder their nursery stock. :-)



KCnRichmond 22-02-2006 11:28 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Easy moron. Not all HD stores are the same.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"higgledy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, they charge the same prices as does my local Homoe Depot. So why
pay for shipping? That is crazy


Variety, maybe. And, a month from now, the Home Depot morons will be doing
everything they can to murder their nursery stock. :-)




Cereus-validus-........... 22-02-2006 11:54 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
You tell 'em, Moroni.

Some HD managers are worse than the others.

Don't get you hopes up expecting any of them giving a damn about some silly
plants. They're in the hardware business not florists. They get their
gardening experts straight out of high school!!!!


"KCnRichmond" wrote in message
...
Easy moron. Not all HD stores are the same.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"higgledy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Well, they charge the same prices as does my local Homoe Depot. So why
pay for shipping? That is crazy


Variety, maybe. And, a month from now, the Home Depot morons will be
doing everything they can to murder their nursery stock. :-)






Mel M Kelly 22-02-2006 02:23 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
We have a contest around here to see if Home Depot or Wal-Mart can get
the most ideots working with the plants. Plus they don't pay any
attention to what area plants should be sent to. You are better off
going to a good greenhouse in your area.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids


Doug Kanter 22-02-2006 03:12 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
We have a contest around here to see if Home Depot or Wal-Mart can get
the most ideots working with the plants. Plus they don't pay any
attention to what area plants should be sent to. You are better off
going to a good greenhouse in your area.


Here, they can't seem to hire anyone who notices that six-packs dry out in
about 23 on a warm day. The plants look like crap within 2 weeks of being
put on display.



Doug Kanter 22-02-2006 04:16 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
We have a contest around here to see if Home Depot or Wal-Mart can get
the most ideots working with the plants. Plus they don't pay any
attention to what area plants should be sent to. You are better off
going to a good greenhouse in your area.


Here, they can't seem to hire anyone who notices that six-packs dry out in
about 23 on a warm day. The plants look like crap within 2 weeks of being
put on display.


23 MINUTES! (typo)



Wild Bill 22-02-2006 05:07 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
higgledy wrote:
I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Pinetree Seeds and Burpee's.

George


Both good choices, George. I also like Territorial, Johnny's, and Nichol's
Garden Nursery. Three years ago I placed a large order with Gurney's, and
they botched it up so badly that I have sworn to never buy from them again.

Regards,
Bill





George Shirley 22-02-2006 05:23 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Wild Bill wrote:
"George Shirley" wrote in message
...

higgledy wrote:

I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Pinetree Seeds and Burpee's.

George



Both good choices, George. I also like Territorial, Johnny's, and Nichol's
Garden Nursery. Three years ago I placed a large order with Gurney's, and
they botched it up so badly that I have sworn to never buy from them again.

Regards,
Bill




I've got a couple of seedsmen on my blacklist. Gurney's is just one of
them. Pinetree and Burpee's have never screwed up an order of mine,
neither has Johnny's, haven't ordered from the others. Thanks for the
advice though. We've downsized our gardens of late, only plant about
half what we used too, except for hot chiles. Gotta make that hot sauce
you know.

George


higgledy 22-02-2006 07:11 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Here in Maryland the HD workers don't have time to worry about dried up
plants. It is a shame, they work those people like slaves.


Doug Kanter 22-02-2006 07:23 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"higgledy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Here in Maryland the HD workers don't have time to worry about dried up
plants. It is a shame, they work those people like slaves.


There should an ASPCP - for prevention of cruelty to plants.



Cereus-validus-........... 22-02-2006 08:19 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
How true that is.

Its really shameful how they force their employees to work in chains.

If it wasn't for the occasional rain, the plants would never get watered.


"higgledy" wrote in message
oups.com...
Here in Maryland the HD workers don't have time to worry about dried up
plants. It is a shame, they work those people like slaves.




[email protected] 23-02-2006 12:04 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
higgledy wrote:
I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Actually, I've been thinking of buying some non-hybrid seeds to
begin growing my own seed plants... cut out the middle man so
to speak. Anyone else have experience with that?

Thad


Persephone 23-02-2006 09:56 AM

Monsanto and hybrid seeds {was: Don't buy from Gurneys]
 
On Thu, 23 Feb 2006 00:04:55 +0000 (UTC),
wrote:

higgledy wrote:
I am sure you expereinced gardners already know this, but Gurney's is
crazy with thier prices. Which mail order places do you buy from?


Actually, I've been thinking of buying some non-hybrid seeds to
begin growing my own seed plants... cut out the middle man so
to speak. Anyone else have experience with that?

Thad


Perfect segue into the plight of poor Third World farmers who
used to save seek and replant each year -- until Monsanto starte
forcing them to buy "Terminator" seeds, genetically engineered
so they couldn't be saved and replanted.

Interested gardeners (and people with a world view) might
be interested in this cri de coeur on the subject, and might want
to send on to your Lists.

Persephone

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Monsanto, the global agritech company [1[ is about to reneg on its
pledge NOT to force indigenous farmers to buy new seed every year
by selling sterile "terminator" seed that can't be saved. Farmers
saved their seed every year for millennia, and replanted the next
year -- until Monsanto came along and commodified seed.

[1] BTW - they also seek to commodify WATER in these poor countries!
See
http://newtimes.rway.com, as well as numerous URLs
quoting Ken Silverstein's research in Mother Jones Magazine on
Monsanto's drive to make the poorest people on earth buy their bottled
water. Keywords such as "Mother Jones Magazine - Monsanto -
indigeneous farmers- water" will get you a load of URLs on this and
related subjects.]

For example, http://www.radford.edu/~wkovarik/env...2oughties.html
will get you a timeline from 2000 to the present on the worldwide
politics of environmental destruction.

===

So -- Why should our fat and comfortable nation worry about the ruin
of indigenous farmers in Third World Countries? YOU know the answer
to THAT one! Even if we have no moral obligation to protect the weak
and helpless, and prevent the destruction of our only home, the Earth,
there's self-interest in not ruining our own agricultu

As Pastor Niemoeller famously said in 1945 the Nazi regime:

"First they came for the Communists,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Communist.
Then they came for the Jews,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I wasn’t a Jew.
Then they came for the Catholics,
and I didn’t speak up,
because I was a Protestant.
Then they came for me,
and by that time there was no one
left to speak up for me."

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Monsanto Turns About on Terminator
By Jim Thomas and Lucy Sharratt
t r u t h o u t | Report

Wednesday 22 February 2006

Biotech giant revises pledge on sterile seed technology as global
alliance calls for a ban.

It turns out you can't trust Monsanto. The world's largest seed
and agbiotech company made a landmark public promise in 1999 not to
commercialize "Terminator Technology" - plants that are genetically
engineered to produce sterile seeds. Now, seven years later, Monsanto
seems to have changed its mind. It says it may develop or use the
so-called "suicide seeds" after all. A newly revised pledge from
Monsanto now suggests that it would use Terminator seeds in non-food
crops and does not rule out other uses of Terminator in the future.

Monsanto's modified stance comes to light as the biotech and seed
industry confronts peasant and farmer movements, indigenous peoples
and their allies, in an escalating battle at the United Nations over
the future of Terminator that will come to a head next month.

It's the latest in a seven-year struggle over what has been called
"the neutron bomb of agriculture" - genetically modified seeds that
can't be saved. In 2000, the United Nations Convention on Biological
Diversity (CBD) adopted a de facto moratorium on sterile seed
technologies (known in UN-speak as Genetic Use Restriction
Technologies or GURTs). But, at next month's high-level meeting of the
CBD in Curitiba, Brazil (March 20-31, 2006), the biotechnology
industry will intensify its push to undermine the six-year-old de
facto moratorium.

In response, over 300 organizations have declared their support
for a global ban on Terminator Technology this week, asserting that
sterile seeds threaten biodiversity and will destroy the livelihoods
and cultures of the 1.4 billion people who depend on farm-saved seed.

"The world's farmers and Indigenous peoples cannot trust
Monsanto," declared Alejandro Argumedo from Asociación ANDES - Potato
Park in Cusco, Peru, one of many indigenous groups backing the Ban
Terminator call. "Monsanto's broken promise is a deadly betrayal
because indigenous peoples and farmers depend on seed saving for food
security and self-determination."

Terminator technology was first developed by the United States
Department of Agriculture and the US seed company Delta & Pine Land to
prevent farmers from saving and re-using harvested seed, forcing them
to buy new seeds each season. Delta and Pine Land refer to Terminator
as Technology Protection System (TPS) and are currently testing the
crops in greenhouses. Delta and Pine Land's Harry Collins has vowed
that his company will commercialize Terminator within the next few
years

A few years ago, Terminator's fortunes weren't looking so good. In
October 1999, in response to worldwide opposition, Monsanto publicly
pledged not to commercialize Terminator seeds. Then-CEO, Robert
Shapiro, wrote an open letter to the Rockefeller Foundation stating,
"I am writing to let you know that we are making a public commitment
not to commercialize sterile seed technologies, such as the one dubbed
'Terminator.'"

Now it turns out that Monsanto has quietly revised that
commitment, pledging to keep Terminator only out of food crops. Their
new wording opens the door to the use of Terminator in cotton,
tobacco, pharmaceutical crops and grass with sterility genes.
Referring to new versions of GURTs, Monsanto's "pledge" now says,
"Monsanto does not rule out the potential development and use of one
of these technologies in the future. The company will continue to
study the risks and benefits of this technology on a case-by-case
basis."

"Monsanto's revised pledge resonates closely with the actions of a
few rich governments that have been promoting Terminator at the UN
recently," points out Chee Yoke Ling of Third World Network. "It looks
like Monsanto and other corporations are behind the strategy to
unleash Terminator at the upcoming meetings of the CBD."

Indeed, Monsanto's new stance on Terminator is part of a wider
industry attempt to undermine the de facto moratorium that was
established six years ago. In the past year, government delegates from
Canada, Australia and New Zealand, working hand in hand with the
biotech industry, have used UN meetings to introduce new text that
will be considered at next month's CBD meeting in Brazil. This text
recommends Terminator technologies be approached on a "case by case
risk assessment" basis - echoing the language of Monsanto's new
"pledge." The intention behind the "case by case" approach is to
regulate Terminator just like any other genetically modified crop -
looking only at health and environmental impacts. This would ignore
the uniquely devastating societal impacts of genetic seed sterility.

"Terminator is a direct assault on farmers, indigenous cultures
and on the food sovereignty and well-being of all rural people,
primarily the very poorest," said Chukki Nanjundaswamy of India from
La Via Campesina, an organization representing hundreds of millions of
peasant farmers worldwide. "If Monsanto bullies the UN into allowing
'case by case' assessment of Terminator, it means farmers will be
carried off the land coffin by coffin."

"These companies have a clear and simple vision that nothing
should be grown without a license from Monsanto and a few other
masters of sterility and reproduction," explains Benny Haerlin of
Greenpeace International. "They pursue this strategy step by step or
'case by case' as they now call it. If governments at the CBD give in
to Monsanto and erode the Terminator moratorium we will all have to
pay the bill tomorrow - and the collateral damage will be the
integrity and fertility of nature."

The Ban Terminator campaign this week announced the names of over
300 organizations worldwide that are demanding a ban on Terminator
technology and encouraged others to join the alliance. The list of
organizations is available at www.banterminator.org/endorsements These
organizations are from every region of the world and include peasant
farmer movements and farm organizations, indigenous peoples'
organizations, civil society and environmental groups, unions, faith
communities, international development organizations, women's
movements, consumer organizations and youth networks.

"We are particularly alarmed that Monsanto's edited pledge no
longer rejects commercialization of this dangerous technology," said
Lucy Sharratt, who is coordinating the International Ban Terminator
Campaign. "We invite all civil society and social movements to join
with us for the battle against Terminator next month in Brazil."
++++++++++++++++++++++++++


--

"An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile,
hoping it will eat him last."

Winston Churchill

KCnRichmond 23-02-2006 10:22 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
The HD I shop at has irrigation.. I know, I know that sounds stupid, but
they have like 5 dudes that dote over the plants like children. Everything
from annuals to the largest trees. I'm sorry your box store doesn't have
anyone worth a damn. They even carry pruners and I've seen them use
them...Correctly. They can even tell you what type they are. Maybe you all
should do that voice of the people thing with your receipt at their website
and complain/compliment the HD you shop at.




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
We have a contest around here to see if Home Depot or Wal-Mart can get
the most ideots working with the plants. Plus they don't pay any
attention to what area plants should be sent to. You are better off
going to a good greenhouse in your area.


Here, they can't seem to hire anyone who notices that six-packs dry out in
about 23 on a warm day. The plants look like crap within 2 weeks of being
put on display.




Doug Kanter 23-02-2006 12:06 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
"KCnRichmond" wrote in message
...
The HD I shop at has irrigation.. I know, I know that sounds stupid, but
they have like 5 dudes that dote over the plants like children. Everything
from annuals to the largest trees. I'm sorry your box store doesn't have
anyone worth a damn. They even carry pruners and I've seen them use
them...Correctly. They can even tell you what type they are. Maybe you all
should do that voice of the people thing with your receipt at their
website and complain/compliment the HD you shop at.


Their "voice of the people" thing does not work, at least not the way it
should. Matter of fact, if you call their home office and try to reach a
district manager, you'll never get a call back. HD funtions behind a wall of
silence.



Cereus-validus-........... 23-02-2006 12:12 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Sadly, Big Brother doesn't give a fig.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"KCnRichmond" wrote in message
...
The HD I shop at has irrigation.. I know, I know that sounds stupid, but
they have like 5 dudes that dote over the plants like children.
Everything from annuals to the largest trees. I'm sorry your box store
doesn't have anyone worth a damn. They even carry pruners and I've seen
them use them...Correctly. They can even tell you what type they are.
Maybe you all should do that voice of the people thing with your receipt
at their website and complain/compliment the HD you shop at.


Their "voice of the people" thing does not work, at least not the way it
should. Matter of fact, if you call their home office and try to reach a
district manager, you'll never get a call back. HD funtions behind a wall
of silence.




Mark Anderson 23-02-2006 05:19 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
In article says...
We have a contest around here to see if Home Depot or Wal-Mart can get
the most ideots working with the plants. Plus they don't pay any
attention to what area plants should be sent to. You are better off
going to a good greenhouse in your area.


The garden section in the 2 HDs by me totally suck. It's not just the
dead plants, and I'd never ever ever buy something perennial like an
evergreen from them, it's their total lack of selection compared with
the nurseries. For $2, the price of a single basil plant at HD, I can
get a 4 pack of sweet basil. Same goes for the fennels, hot peppers,
tomatoes, etc.

The Menards by me doesn't even attempt to run a garden center. They
sell garden stuff and soil but they outsource the actual plant selling
to a local nursery who sets up a temporary shop in Menards' parking lot.
It works quite well and the parking lot nursery setup has a good
selection, they keep everything watered, and they don't try to gouge.




madgardener 24-02-2006 04:21 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"Cereus-validus-..........." wrote in message
om...
You tell 'em, Moroni.

Some HD managers are worse than the others.

Don't get you hopes up expecting any of them giving a damn about some
silly plants. They're in the hardware business not florists. They get
their gardening experts straight out of high school!!!!



well I didn't work for the orange box, but I worked for Lowes knows how to
aggrivate their employees and I resemble that remark! Only with me, they
got a high school educated, life and road educated old middle aged master
gardener who cared about the plants and the customers. And you're right, C.
they're in the hardware business, but they also take their gardening
center's fairly serious. It's about to be the "100 days of madness", I
always tell people that the only thing they need look for is diseased and
insects, and unless they need landscaping trees or shrubs, to avoid the
perennials now since they're so over grown and root bound. I HATE how they
have convinced the nurseries that grow the stock that the bigger the plant
the better. Give me a small plant that has been bumped up for three years
and has ample soil and not all packed fulla roots and I'll purchase it
quickly. The diversity doesn't count if the roots are the shape of the
freaking pots........I'm starting to be more than fed up with the practices
of nurseries and such. and today I'm just fed up with the govn't and corn
industry. I gotta stop reading Grist......it's depressing the hell outa
me.....I'll be posting an update on the doings in Fairy Holler soon. pardon
my ranting and mumblings.
madgardener



higgledy 24-02-2006 05:51 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
madgardener: Lowe's nursery stock so expensive compared to HD.
Although I try to frequent small, local nurseries rather than the big
boxes, especially for shrubs and tress. Annuals I do hit the big boxes.
The best is to ask which days the trucks deliver and stop by that
evening after work.


KCnRichmond 24-02-2006 10:27 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Again "Mr. Down everything because you know nothing" Kanter.. The HD I shop
at actually during their opening meeting once, as I walked by, the ASM was
actually READING the vop to the associates and they KNEW who each statement
was about without names mentioned.. I thought that was info coming down from
The Great Wall of Silence as you call it and it was doing some good.
I'll reiterate my statement from before. Not all box stores are the same.
From blue to orange, it depends on who's there now. Hell the one 6 miles
down the road from the one I shop, well I can't say enough bad things of
them.. That's where to get the discount perennials in the late summer...
By the way this HD is in Short Pump Va. Excellent nursery choices.
The better Lowes here is the one closest to the other HD I mentioned.
The district Lowes home office is in the same mall as the HD I Shop and they
SUCK OUT LOUD!






"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"KCnRichmond" wrote in message
...
The HD I shop at has irrigation.. I know, I know that sounds stupid, but
they have like 5 dudes that dote over the plants like children.
Everything from annuals to the largest trees. I'm sorry your box store
doesn't have anyone worth a damn. They even carry pruners and I've seen
them use them...Correctly. They can even tell you what type they are.
Maybe you all should do that voice of the people thing with your receipt
at their website and complain/compliment the HD you shop at.


Their "voice of the people" thing does not work, at least not the way it
should. Matter of fact, if you call their home office and try to reach a
district manager, you'll never get a call back. HD funtions behind a wall
of silence.




Garden Viking 24-02-2006 10:35 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Judging by your post and command of the English language, I would bet you
two are leading in the contest, no?


"Mel M Kelly" wrote in message
...
We have a contest around here to see if Home Depot or Wal-Mart can get
the most ideots working with the plants. Plus they don't pay any
attention to what area plants should be sent to. You are better off
going to a good greenhouse in your area.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids




Doug Kanter 24-02-2006 01:41 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
"KCnRichmond" wrote in message
...
Again "Mr. Down everything because you know nothing" Kanter.. The HD I
shop at actually during their opening meeting once, as I walked by, the
ASM was actually READING the vop to the associates and they KNEW who each
statement was about without names mentioned.. I thought that was info
coming down from The Great Wall of Silence as you call it and it was doing
some good.
I'll reiterate my statement from before. Not all box stores are the same.
From blue to orange, it depends on who's there now. Hell the one 6 miles
down the road from the one I shop, well I can't say enough bad things of
them.. That's where to get the discount perennials in the late summer...
By the way this HD is in Short Pump Va. Excellent nursery choices.
The better Lowes here is the one closest to the other HD I mentioned.
The district Lowes home office is in the same mall as the HD I Shop and
they SUCK OUT LOUD!


Deciphering your 3rd grade writing isn't really worth the trouble, but I get
the general idea of what you tried to say.

A month ago, I walked into the store to buy two simple fluorescent fixtures
for my basement. The signs on the wall next to the display fixtures contain
HD SKU numbers. The actual product boxes have no numbers which match the
signs on the wall. It took almost 90 minutes to find someone who could match
the thing on the wall to the correct boxes.

That shopping trip should've been over in 15 minutes. I could've had one of
the two fixtures installed if I hadn't wasted time with their defective
display system. The receipt contains a code number you can use to take a
survey. I asked to be called about the problem in that store. Hasn't
happened yet. I called the home office directly and left a message for the
district manager. No response.

When I tell you the company is unresponsive, you have no choice but to
accept what I say.



KCnRichmond 24-02-2006 09:59 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
90 minutes!!!! You are an idiot...Holy crap, 90 friggin minutes for 2
florescent light fixtures? Holy crap again!.
Understand this writing you self entwined twit? I've heard it all now. You
shouldn't even have a drivers license and be let out on the road. What a
moron. How do you even eat? I mean tell me dude, If there are 2 forks in the
drawer, how do you figure out which one will stuff food in that hole over
your chin? Aw crap, now I've told you where food goes. Son of a .... Holy
Crap!! 90 minutes? And you admitted it? Maybe the "box" store mentality is
just escaping you on Home Improvement, I dunno... Maybe you could just shop
at the Dollar Tree for those hard to figure things..


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"KCnRichmond" wrote in message
...
Again "Mr. Down everything because you know nothing" Kanter.. The HD I
shop at actually during their opening meeting once, as I walked by, the
ASM was actually READING the vop to the associates and they KNEW who each
statement was about without names mentioned.. I thought that was info
coming down from The Great Wall of Silence as you call it and it was
doing some good.
I'll reiterate my statement from before. Not all box stores are the same.
From blue to orange, it depends on who's there now. Hell the one 6 miles
down the road from the one I shop, well I can't say enough bad things of
them.. That's where to get the discount perennials in the late summer...
By the way this HD is in Short Pump Va. Excellent nursery choices.
The better Lowes here is the one closest to the other HD I mentioned.
The district Lowes home office is in the same mall as the HD I Shop and
they SUCK OUT LOUD!


Deciphering your 3rd grade writing isn't really worth the trouble, but I
get the general idea of what you tried to say.

A month ago, I walked into the store to buy two simple fluorescent
fixtures for my basement. The signs on the wall next to the display
fixtures contain HD SKU numbers. The actual product boxes have no numbers
which match the signs on the wall. It took almost 90 minutes to find
someone who could match the thing on the wall to the correct boxes.

That shopping trip should've been over in 15 minutes. I could've had one
of the two fixtures installed if I hadn't wasted time with their defective
display system. The receipt contains a code number you can use to take a
survey. I asked to be called about the problem in that store. Hasn't
happened yet. I called the home office directly and left a message for the
district manager. No response.

When I tell you the company is unresponsive, you have no choice but to
accept what I say.




Doug Kanter 24-02-2006 10:17 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Wow. This game is easy. :-)



Mel M Kelly 25-02-2006 03:07 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley





http://community.webtv.net/MelKelly/TheKids


George Shirley 25-02-2006 05:13 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley



Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips" and
those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's basically what
slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop for Toronto,
they're normally grown much farther south.

George


[email protected] 25-02-2006 05:14 PM

Monsanto and hybrid seeds {was: Don't buy from Gurneys]
 
Persephone wrote:

Perfect segue into the plight of poor Third World farmers who
used to save seek and replant each year -- until Monsanto starte
forcing them to buy "Terminator" seeds, genetically engineered
so they couldn't be saved and replanted.

Interested gardeners (and people with a world view) might
be interested in this cri de coeur on the subject, and might want
to send on to your Lists.

Persephone


Yup, this is an issue that my girfriend and I were discussing
just the other day. Hybridization and genetic manipulation for
the sole purpose of maintaining a monopoly can hardly be a good
thing for farmers or the greater public, particularly when it
puts our food supply at risk because of reduced genetic
diversity and potential genetic crossover to other plants.

Thad


Doug Kanter 26-02-2006 02:45 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley



Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips" and
those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's basically what
slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop for Toronto,
they're normally grown much farther south.

George


I grew them very successfully in Rochester NY, right across the lake from
Toronto. He'll have no problem with them, unless deer attack the leaves, in
which case the potatoes will be more like fat carrots than the sweet
potatoes we see in grocery stores.



Pondinfo 26-02-2006 10:15 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Isn't there a plant-by-the-moon thing with sweet taters?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley



Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips" and
those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's basically what
slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop for Toronto,
they're normally grown much farther south.

George


I grew them very successfully in Rochester NY, right across the lake from
Toronto. He'll have no problem with them, unless deer attack the leaves,
in which case the potatoes will be more like fat carrots than the sweet
potatoes we see in grocery stores.




Doug Kanter 26-02-2006 02:39 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
There's a plant by the moon thing with all crops, if you look hard enough.
Consult a Wiccan. :-)

"Pondinfo" wrote in message
...
Isn't there a plant-by-the-moon thing with sweet taters?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley


Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips" and
those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's basically what
slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop for Toronto,
they're normally grown much farther south.

George


I grew them very successfully in Rochester NY, right across the lake from
Toronto. He'll have no problem with them, unless deer attack the leaves,
in which case the potatoes will be more like fat carrots than the sweet
potatoes we see in grocery stores.






Cereus-validus-........... 26-02-2006 05:28 PM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
Kinky!

Suspiciously sounds like an excuse for making whoopee in the garden.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
There's a plant by the moon thing with all crops, if you look hard enough.
Consult a Wiccan. :-)

"Pondinfo" wrote in message
...
Isn't there a plant-by-the-moon thing with sweet taters?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a
roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley


Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips" and
those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's basically what
slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop for Toronto,
they're normally grown much farther south.

George


I grew them very successfully in Rochester NY, right across the lake
from Toronto. He'll have no problem with them, unless deer attack the
leaves, in which case the potatoes will be more like fat carrots than
the sweet potatoes we see in grocery stores.








Doug Kanter 27-02-2006 01:33 AM

Don't buy from Gurneys
 
An old friend of mine believed that if she dripped menstrual blood in her
garden, it would be a good thing. Wiccan thing.

"Cereus-validus-..........." wrote in message
. net...
Kinky!

Suspiciously sounds like an excuse for making whoopee in the garden.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
There's a plant by the moon thing with all crops, if you look hard
enough. Consult a Wiccan. :-)

"Pondinfo" wrote in message
...
Isn't there a plant-by-the-moon thing with sweet taters?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a
roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew
they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and
the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley


Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips" and
those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's basically
what slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop for
Toronto, they're normally grown much farther south.

George


I grew them very successfully in Rochester NY, right across the lake
from Toronto. He'll have no problem with them, unless deer attack the
leaves, in which case the potatoes will be more like fat carrots than
the sweet potatoes we see in grocery stores.










Cereus-validus-........... 27-02-2006 04:34 AM

Wiccan garden party?
 
How sad that is.

She sounds like a Debbie Downer, a real party pooper.

She must not get invited to any garden parties.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
An old friend of mine believed that if she dripped menstrual blood in her
garden, it would be a good thing. Wiccan thing.

"Cereus-validus-..........." wrote in
message . net...
Kinky!

Suspiciously sounds like an excuse for making whoopee in the garden.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
There's a plant by the moon thing with all crops, if you look hard
enough. Consult a Wiccan. :-)

"Pondinfo" wrote in message
...
Isn't there a plant-by-the-moon thing with sweet taters?

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...

"George Shirley" wrote in message
...
Mel M Kelly wrote:
I can beat the 90 min. thing. We was looking for a handle for a
roofing
brush and they never did find them. About 5 clerks said they knew
they
had them but none could find them. They could find the brushes and
the
roofing but no handles. Call me what you want but our local HD is a
joke. Even Wal-Mart has better service.


From Mel & Donnie in Bluebird Valley


Sweet potatoes aren't grown from seeds, they're grown from "slips"
and those are transplanted. Vine cuttings work too as that's
basically what slips are. Doubt that sweet potatoes are a normal crop
for Toronto, they're normally grown much farther south.

George


I grew them very successfully in Rochester NY, right across the lake
from Toronto. He'll have no problem with them, unless deer attack the
leaves, in which case the potatoes will be more like fat carrots than
the sweet potatoes we see in grocery stores.












higgledy 27-02-2006 05:08 PM

Wiccan garden party?
 
Cereus-validus wrote:
She must not get invited to any garden parties.


LOL



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