I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?


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DigitalVinyl wrote:
I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?


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There is an improved version of Sweet 100 called Sweet Million FNT
Hybrid. It has much better disease resistance and resists cracking. A
couple others that I like that resist cracking are Sweet Baby Girl
Hybrid T (an early cherry tomato) and Marcellino Hybrid. If you like
small yellow tomatoes try Ildi (also called Yellow Grape) or Dr.
Carolyn, a pale yellow small tomato with very good flavor.

You can get seeds for these varieties from Totally Tomatoes,
http://www.totallytomato.com or Tomato Growers Supply Company,
http://www.tomatogrowers.com
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DigitalVinyl wrote:
I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?

Juliet.

I grew them for the last two years. I had to surround a large tomato cage
with three other cages to hold all the branches, and a single plant provided
me with around a dozen grape-sized tomatoes starting in early August, and
continuing on to early October. Nice, sweet flavor, too. I'm very impressed
with it.

I should mention that as the season went on, I did get more cracking fruit,
but even tossing out the cracked fruit, my yield was high. And part of the
reason for the cracking fruit was I just wasn't harvesting fast enough.

--
Warren H.

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DigitalVinyl wrote:
I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount
of
waste discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the
vine,
tomatoes dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea
of
squirming ants under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more
useful
yield?

Juliet.

I grew them for the last two years. I had to surround a large
tomato cage with three other cages to hold all the branches,
and a
single plant provided me with around a dozen grape-sized
tomatoes
starting in early August, and continuing on to early October.
Nice,
sweet flavor, too. I'm very impressed with it.

I should mention that as the season went on, I did get more
cracking fruit, but even tossing out the cracked fruit, my
yield
was high. And part of the reason for the cracking fruit was I
just
wasn't harvesting fast enough.

One tomato produced a whole 12 tomatoes? WOW.

--

Travis in Shoreline (just North of Seattle) Washington
USDA Zone 8
Sunset Zone 5

I had a similar experience with sweet 100. I liked the red pear
tomatoes better, but I don't recall the name. I know they are bigger
than the grapes, but I didn't get so overwhelmed towards the end of the
season.

FYI, cracked tomatoes can sometimes be caused by uneven watering. If
the plants get dried out and then are given too much water the fruit
expands too fast and cracks the skin open.
Laura


DigitalVinyl wrote:
I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
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I only had room to grow one tomato. I got one from a produce stand which also had
some plants. The first one ripened and it was so bad I pulled the rest of the plant
out and dumped it. the green tomatoes one by one ripened and not even my dogs would
eat them. my mother swore by "sweet millions" but I dont see the plants for sale.
Ingrid


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I only had room to grow one tomato. I got one from a produce stand which also had
some plants. The first one ripened and it was so bad I pulled the rest of the plant
out and dumped it. the green tomatoes one by one ripened and not even my dogs would
eat them. my mother swore by "sweet millions" but I dont see the plants for sale.
Ingrid


I agree with your mother. Sweet Millions is a much improved version of
Sweet 100. No one around here sells the plants either so I start mine
from seeds. I get my seed from Totally Tomatoes,
http://www.totallytomato.com or Tomato Growers Supply Company,
http://www.tomatogrowers.com

Anyone that has a limited area for tomatoes should try growing some
container varieties. There are some that grow to very small plants (6
to 8 inches) but have heavy yields. Some very good ones that I have
grown are Florida Petite (this is a very early tomato, 40 days), Red
Robin (early, 55 days), Tumbler Hybrid (very early, 49 days). Tumbler is
a very good variety for hanging baskets too.
--
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Gardening Since 1969

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:27:51 GMT, DigitalVinyl
wrote:

I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Interesting terminology. Would the Eastern "grape" tomato be the
same as the California "cherry" tomato?

Persephone

"Warren" wrote:

DigitalVinyl wrote:
I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?

Juliet.

I grew them for the last two years. I had to surround a large tomato cage
with three other cages to hold all the branches, and a single plant provided
me with around a dozen grape-sized tomatoes starting in early August, and
continuing on to early October. Nice, sweet flavor, too. I'm very impressed
with it.

I should mention that as the season went on, I did get more cracking fruit,
but even tossing out the cracked fruit, my yield was high. And part of the
reason for the cracking fruit was I just wasn't harvesting fast enough.

I have to say, my yield was tremendous as was the plant. It grew to a
six foot high two foot diameter bush with arms continuing to grow and
flopping down another four feet over the top of the cage. It was the
waste--which I would estimate probably reached 50% that I hated. That
any the moldy, slushy rotten ones sitting on the vine propped right
against good ones. And when you see a big patch of black ground then
notice its moving and then realize it is a million swarming
ants--kinda gross.

Thanks
DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
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"Laura at theGardenPages" wrote:

I had a similar experience with sweet 100. I liked the red pear
tomatoes better, but I don't recall the name. I know they are bigger
than the grapes, but I didn't get so overwhelmed towards the end of the
season.

FYI, cracked tomatoes can sometimes be caused by uneven watering. If
the plants get dried out and then are given too much water the fruit
expands too fast and cracks the skin open.
Laura

It could have been the year--that may have been a rainy year. Other
plants in the patch didn't seem water stressed(too much/too
little)--actually did very well. Last year I had a lot of problem with
cracking on heirlooms, but that was due to my job taking all my time
It was also a new planting ground, although I gave the tomatoes the
best pickings.

They also dropped a lot of ripe fruit. Which was frustrating to see
ripe fruit dropped yet split and moldy fruit still stuck on the vine
squashed against new healthy ones.

DigitalVinyl wrote:
I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
4th year gardener
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Persephone wrote:

On Fri, 10 Mar 2006 23:27:51 GMT, DigitalVinyl
wrote:

I grew a sweet 100 the other year and found the vast amount of waste
discouraging. Lots of popped fruit, rotting on the vine, tomatoes
dropping from the plant as ai harvest, a black sea of squirming ants
under the plant. It reseeded like crazy.

Anybody have a grape-sized tomato plant that has a more useful yield?


DiGiTAL ViNYL (no email)
Zone 6b/7, Westchester Co, NY, 1 mile off L.I.Sound
3rd year gardener
http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/royalf...=/2055&.src=ph

Interesting terminology. Would the Eastern "grape" tomato be the
same as the California "cherry" tomato?

Persephone

They usually call them grape tomatoes in the grocery store. They are
smaller than most cherries.

Cherry tomatoes typically start with the size of a large cherry or
larger, about 1 to 1.5 inches round. As you get to the 2 inch rounds
they usally start calling them slicing tomatoes(unless elongated, then
plum). Grape tomatoes are smaller. Typically they are about 1/2 inch
round, sometimes slightly elongated, but not really longer than .75
inch. They are your average sized grape.



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DigitalVinyl wrote:

Interesting terminology. Would the Eastern "grape" tomato be the
same as the California "cherry" tomato?


They usually call them grape tomatoes in the grocery store. They are
smaller than most cherries.

Cherry tomatoes typically start with the size of a large cherry or
larger, about 1 to 1.5 inches round. As you get to the 2 inch rounds
they usally start calling them slicing tomatoes(unless elongated, then
plum). Grape tomatoes are smaller. Typically they are about 1/2 inch
round, sometimes slightly elongated, but not really longer than .75
inch. They are your average sized grape.

Cherry tomatoes are small and round like a cherry. Grape tomatoes are small
and elongated like a grape. Grape tomatoes can be larger or smaller than
cherry tomatoes. In fact, most grape tomatoes I've seen are larger than the
typical cherry tomato.

So the primary difference between grape and cherry is the shape.

--
Warren H.

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employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
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response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.

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"Warren" wrote:

DigitalVinyl wrote:

Interesting terminology. Would the Eastern "grape" tomato be the
same as the California "cherry" tomato?


They usually call them grape tomatoes in the grocery store. They are
smaller than most cherries.

Cherry tomatoes typically start with the size of a large cherry or
larger, about 1 to 1.5 inches round. As you get to the 2 inch rounds
they usally start calling them slicing tomatoes(unless elongated, then
plum). Grape tomatoes are smaller. Typically they are about 1/2 inch
round, sometimes slightly elongated, but not really longer than .75
inch. They are your average sized grape.

Cherry tomatoes are small and round like a cherry. Grape tomatoes are small
and elongated like a grape. Grape tomatoes can be larger or smaller than
cherry tomatoes. In fact, most grape tomatoes I've seen are larger than the
typical cherry tomato.

That distinction makes sense, although I would think these are more
marketing terms than scientific (tomatus cherrianus). Never seen a
"grape" tomato offered as large as a typical cherry. Sweet 100's were
significantly smaller than average cherry tomato I've grown-but are
usually referred to in catalog as cherry, often with some adjective
adjustment mini-, small, tiny, grape-sized. Until now I've thought of
grape-sized as a multiple-in-the-mouth-at-once size where cherry is
one-at-a-time. YRMV!

So the primary difference between grape and cherry is the shape.



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DigitalVinyl wrote:
That distinction makes sense, although I would think these are more
marketing terms than scientific (tomatus cherrianus).

Absolutely.

Never seen a
"grape" tomato offered as large as a typical cherry. Sweet 100's were
significantly smaller than average cherry tomato I've grown-but are
usually referred to in catalog as cherry, often with some adjective
adjustment mini-, small, tiny, grape-sized. Until now I've thought of
grape-sized as a multiple-in-the-mouth-at-once size where cherry is
one-at-a-time. YRMV!

The "grape" tomatoes at regular supermarkets around here are usually small.
But so are the cherry tomatoes.

But if you go to Costco or one of the upscale supermarkets that prides
itself on the best produce, you can find grape tomatoes that could be
mistaken for small plum tomatoes (although not the plum tomatoes in those
store, which are usually as big as your fist.)

--
Warren H.

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In my experience, what I call cherry tomatoes have a thinner skin and are
more juicy. The grape tomatoes that I buy in the store have a thicker skin
and an interior texture more similar to roma (plum type) tomatoes. So I'm
thinking that they are more closely related to that strain of tomato.
"Warren" wrote in message
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DigitalVinyl wrote:

Interesting terminology. Would the Eastern "grape" tomato be the
same as the California "cherry" tomato?


They usually call them grape tomatoes in the grocery store. They are
smaller than most cherries.

Cherry tomatoes typically start with the size of a large cherry or
larger, about 1 to 1.5 inches round. As you get to the 2 inch rounds
they usally start calling them slicing tomatoes(unless elongated, then
plum). Grape tomatoes are smaller. Typically they are about 1/2 inch
round, sometimes slightly elongated, but not really longer than .75
inch. They are your average sized grape.

Cherry tomatoes are small and round like a cherry. Grape tomatoes are
small and elongated like a grape. Grape tomatoes can be larger or smaller
than cherry tomatoes. In fact, most grape tomatoes I've seen are larger
than the typical cherry tomato.

So the primary difference between grape and cherry is the shape.

--
Warren H.

==========
Disclaimer: My views reflect those of myself, and not my
employer, my friends, nor (as she often tells me) my wife.
Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.

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