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Old 13-04-2006, 01:30 PM posted to rec.gardens
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"George.com" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"George.com" wrote in message
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"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
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Think about the purpose of using peat moss this way. It is not to
improve
the soil. It is to help establish fresh additional grass in an

existing
sparse lawn that will not be dug up. The purpose of the peat moss

is
to
retain moisture as the seeds germinate and develop.

if the plan is to retain moisture and reduce watering surely a far

simpler
way of doing it is to peg some form of cloth across the soil until the
seeds
start to germinate.


Good idea, but the OP said she has an 8000 sq ft area. That's a lot of
burlap!


you can get waste stuff if you look in the right places. Sure, it will be

a
bit of work however simply spreading seed on an 8000 sq ft area will be

work
in itself, as well as watering, as well as blowing peat fluff all over it.
With something that large there is work there all rightregardless of what
direction you go.

rob


ps a great area for dogs to go and poo on or to bend your garden fork
levering out roots.

rob


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"George.com" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"George.com" wrote in message
...

"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
Think about the purpose of using peat moss this way. It is not to
improve
the soil. It is to help establish fresh additional grass in an

existing
sparse lawn that will not be dug up. The purpose of the peat moss is

to
retain moisture as the seeds germinate and develop.

if the plan is to retain moisture and reduce watering surely a far

simpler
way of doing it is to peg some form of cloth across the soil until the
seeds
start to germinate.


Good idea, but the OP said she has an 8000 sq ft area. That's a lot of
burlap!


you can get waste stuff if you look in the right places. Sure, it will be
a
bit of work however simply spreading seed on an 8000 sq ft area will be
work
in itself, as well as watering, as well as blowing peat fluff all over it.
With something that large there is work there all rightregardless of what
direction you go.

rob



I agree. If it were my lawn, I'd do the job during a vacation week so I
could be out there misting it whenever necessary.


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"George.com" wrote in message
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"George.com" wrote in message
...

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
"George.com" wrote in message
...

"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
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Think about the purpose of using peat moss this way. It is not to
improve
the soil. It is to help establish fresh additional grass in an

existing
sparse lawn that will not be dug up. The purpose of the peat moss

is
to
retain moisture as the seeds germinate and develop.

if the plan is to retain moisture and reduce watering surely a far

simpler
way of doing it is to peg some form of cloth across the soil until
the
seeds
start to germinate.

Good idea, but the OP said she has an 8000 sq ft area. That's a lot of
burlap!


you can get waste stuff if you look in the right places. Sure, it will be

a
bit of work however simply spreading seed on an 8000 sq ft area will be

work
in itself, as well as watering, as well as blowing peat fluff all over
it.
With something that large there is work there all rightregardless of what
direction you go.

rob


ps a great area for dogs to go and poo on or to bend your garden fork
levering out roots.

rob



Don't get me started about dogs and their mentally retarded owners. Just
don't.


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Old 14-04-2006, 07:14 AM posted to rec.gardens
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In article ,
says...

snip
I wonder about those slurries I've heard about, where you can
spray the seed all over, in a mix of stuff that keeps it moist
and helps it germinate. But that's probably big expensive
government stuff.





You mean?:

http://www.turfmaker.com./

Bill
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Good! When you can explain your theories, and why they fly in the face of
virtually ALL other professional recommendations, including those on the
peat moss packages, I'll be happy to change my opinion. But, all you've done
is said "I think this should work and the facts are of no important". You
may as well be telling someone to stick a gun in his mouth and pull the
trigger because you think the history of bullet wounds is nonsense.


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
I am tremendously amused. You remarks were most entertaining. Thank you.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Your observations are at best the products of delusion. Please accept
that

I
mean this in a good way. You have no idea what you saw. The only possible
exception to what I've said is that you are home all day long, and are

able
to hose down the lawn's surface every couple of hours. Aside from that
possibility, or living in a climate where it rains lightly and endlessly
every day, there are no other explanations.







"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
Think about the purpose of using peat moss this way. It is not to

improve
the soil. It is to help establish fresh additional grass in an
existing
sparse lawn that will not be dug up. The purpose of the peat moss is

to
retain moisture as the seeds germinate and develop.

My evidence is my own observation that peat moss remains moist much

longer
than the surface of my lawn. Thus a lawn with peat moss on top will

need
less frequent watering, perhaps twice a day to keep the grass seed
moist
instead of every hour during midday. It will also shield the seeds
from
the
direct sunlight, which could dry them out no matter what they're on.

The claims of you and your authorities that mixing peat moss into soil

is
the best way to use it to improve the soil, and just leaving it on top

is,
at best, useless, seem undeniable. But that is not the goal here or
the
situation. The moss will be kept moist until the grass is established.
The
fact that peat moss is useful when dug in does not prevent it from
being
useful in other ways too.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Question: In 30+ years of gardening, I've have never seen any advice
indicating that peat moss did NOT need to be mixed into soil. Never.

Not
once, and this includes gardening veterans like James Crockett, Alan
Lacy,
Henry Mitchell, Fred McGourty, Russell Page, Christopher Lloyd, etc.

They
were gardening for 30-50 years before I even began. None of them

suggest
that it's a good idea to just sprinkle peat moss on top of soil.

What evidence do you have that suddenly makes this a good idea?


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
I see two significant advantages to using peat as described -- it
reduces
the frequency of waterings that are needed and surrounds the seeds

and
provides them with a constant level of humidity. It sounds like a

good
idea
to me.


And you could have had the same results with less water if you

didn't
have to provide enough water to both keep the peat hydrated and
have
enough left over for the seeds to germinate. You wasted money on
the
peat, and then you wasted money by having to water more.

Unless you mix the peat into the soil, there is zero advantage to
using
it. In fact, if you just spread it on top, it's a waste. A waste of
peat. A waste of water. And a waste of effort. The peat has no
nutriative value, and if it's not mixed in the soil, it does
nothing
to
help the soil at all.


--
Warren H.














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Old 14-04-2006, 09:07 PM posted to rec.gardens
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You still persist in your error in logic.

You have not referred to any professional recommendation or evidence that
says the method does not work. The professional recommendations to which
you refer say to use peat moss another way, which is not applicable here.
That does not mean it will not work in the way that is suggested here.

That peat moss is recommended for method B and works in method B does not
mean that it does not work in method A.

I notice that you ignored my previous posting to a garden site that
recommended applying peat moss on top of a lawn when reseeding. Here are 3
more. They were easily found.

http://www.hudginsgardencenter.com/h...care_guide.htm

http://extras.berkshireeagle.com/neb...ault.asp?id=ar
ticle18

http://www.skynursery.com/doc/garden_lawn_tips.htm

My other point is that, yes, I wrote, "I think this should work". I am
disagreeing with your opinion. I did not present my opinion as accepted
truth. You, on the other hand, have presented as known fact what is only
your view on the situation.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Good! When you can explain your theories, and why they fly in the face of
virtually ALL other professional recommendations, including those on the
peat moss packages, I'll be happy to change my opinion. But, all you've

done
is said "I think this should work and the facts are of no important". You
may as well be telling someone to stick a gun in his mouth and pull the
trigger because you think the history of bullet wounds is nonsense.


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
I am tremendously amused. You remarks were most entertaining. Thank you.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Your observations are at best the products of delusion. Please accept
that

I
mean this in a good way. You have no idea what you saw. The only

possible
exception to what I've said is that you are home all day long, and are

able
to hose down the lawn's surface every couple of hours. Aside from that
possibility, or living in a climate where it rains lightly and

endlessly
every day, there are no other explanations.







"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
Think about the purpose of using peat moss this way. It is not to

improve
the soil. It is to help establish fresh additional grass in an
existing
sparse lawn that will not be dug up. The purpose of the peat moss

is
to
retain moisture as the seeds germinate and develop.

My evidence is my own observation that peat moss remains moist much

longer
than the surface of my lawn. Thus a lawn with peat moss on top will

need
less frequent watering, perhaps twice a day to keep the grass seed
moist
instead of every hour during midday. It will also shield the seeds
from
the
direct sunlight, which could dry them out no matter what they're on.

The claims of you and your authorities that mixing peat moss into

soil
is
the best way to use it to improve the soil, and just leaving it on

top
is,
at best, useless, seem undeniable. But that is not the goal here or
the
situation. The moss will be kept moist until the grass is

established.
The
fact that peat moss is useful when dug in does not prevent it from
being
useful in other ways too.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Question: In 30+ years of gardening, I've have never seen any advice
indicating that peat moss did NOT need to be mixed into soil. Never.

Not
once, and this includes gardening veterans like James Crockett, Alan
Lacy,
Henry Mitchell, Fred McGourty, Russell Page, Christopher Lloyd, etc.

They
were gardening for 30-50 years before I even began. None of them

suggest
that it's a good idea to just sprinkle peat moss on top of soil.

What evidence do you have that suddenly makes this a good idea?


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
I see two significant advantages to using peat as described -- it
reduces
the frequency of waterings that are needed and surrounds the

seeds
and
provides them with a constant level of humidity. It sounds like a

good
idea
to me.


And you could have had the same results with less water if you

didn't
have to provide enough water to both keep the peat hydrated and
have
enough left over for the seeds to germinate. You wasted money on
the
peat, and then you wasted money by having to water more.

Unless you mix the peat into the soil, there is zero advantage to
using
it. In fact, if you just spread it on top, it's a waste. A waste

of
peat. A waste of water. And a waste of effort. The peat has no
nutriative value, and if it's not mixed in the soil, it does
nothing
to
help the soil at all.


--
Warren H.














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Old 14-04-2006, 09:31 PM posted to rec.gardens
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I don't care WHAT they say. Experience shows otherwise. It *might* work if
sprinkled on top of the seed, but only if you're there to keep it moist.
This would eliminate its functionality for anyone who has to go to work for
8 hours on a sunny day.


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
You still persist in your error in logic.

You have not referred to any professional recommendation or evidence that
says the method does not work. The professional recommendations to which
you refer say to use peat moss another way, which is not applicable here.
That does not mean it will not work in the way that is suggested here.

That peat moss is recommended for method B and works in method B does not
mean that it does not work in method A.

I notice that you ignored my previous posting to a garden site that
recommended applying peat moss on top of a lawn when reseeding. Here are
3
more. They were easily found.

http://www.hudginsgardencenter.com/h...care_guide.htm

http://extras.berkshireeagle.com/neb...ault.asp?id=ar
ticle18

http://www.skynursery.com/doc/garden_lawn_tips.htm

My other point is that, yes, I wrote, "I think this should work". I am
disagreeing with your opinion. I did not present my opinion as accepted
truth. You, on the other hand, have presented as known fact what is only
your view on the situation.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Good! When you can explain your theories, and why they fly in the face of
virtually ALL other professional recommendations, including those on the
peat moss packages, I'll be happy to change my opinion. But, all you've

done
is said "I think this should work and the facts are of no important". You
may as well be telling someone to stick a gun in his mouth and pull the
trigger because you think the history of bullet wounds is nonsense.


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
I am tremendously amused. You remarks were most entertaining. Thank
you.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Your observations are at best the products of delusion. Please accept
that
I
mean this in a good way. You have no idea what you saw. The only

possible
exception to what I've said is that you are home all day long, and are
able
to hose down the lawn's surface every couple of hours. Aside from that
possibility, or living in a climate where it rains lightly and

endlessly
every day, there are no other explanations.







"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
Think about the purpose of using peat moss this way. It is not to
improve
the soil. It is to help establish fresh additional grass in an
existing
sparse lawn that will not be dug up. The purpose of the peat moss

is
to
retain moisture as the seeds germinate and develop.

My evidence is my own observation that peat moss remains moist much
longer
than the surface of my lawn. Thus a lawn with peat moss on top will
need
less frequent watering, perhaps twice a day to keep the grass seed
moist
instead of every hour during midday. It will also shield the seeds
from
the
direct sunlight, which could dry them out no matter what they're on.

The claims of you and your authorities that mixing peat moss into

soil
is
the best way to use it to improve the soil, and just leaving it on

top
is,
at best, useless, seem undeniable. But that is not the goal here or
the
situation. The moss will be kept moist until the grass is

established.
The
fact that peat moss is useful when dug in does not prevent it from
being
useful in other ways too.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Question: In 30+ years of gardening, I've have never seen any
advice
indicating that peat moss did NOT need to be mixed into soil.
Never.
Not
once, and this includes gardening veterans like James Crockett,
Alan
Lacy,
Henry Mitchell, Fred McGourty, Russell Page, Christopher Lloyd,
etc.
They
were gardening for 30-50 years before I even began. None of them
suggest
that it's a good idea to just sprinkle peat moss on top of soil.

What evidence do you have that suddenly makes this a good idea?


"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
I see two significant advantages to using peat as described -- it
reduces
the frequency of waterings that are needed and surrounds the

seeds
and
provides them with a constant level of humidity. It sounds like
a
good
idea
to me.


And you could have had the same results with less water if you
didn't
have to provide enough water to both keep the peat hydrated and
have
enough left over for the seeds to germinate. You wasted money on
the
peat, and then you wasted money by having to water more.

Unless you mix the peat into the soil, there is zero advantage
to
using
it. In fact, if you just spread it on top, it's a waste. A waste

of
peat. A waste of water. And a waste of effort. The peat has no
nutriative value, and if it's not mixed in the soil, it does
nothing
to
help the soil at all.


--
Warren H.
















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Old 14-04-2006, 10:53 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Mama Bear wrote:
Bill wrote :


In article ,
says...

snip

I wonder about those slurries I've heard about, where you can
spray the seed all over, in a mix of stuff that keeps it
moist and helps it germinate. But that's probably big
expensive government stuff.





You mean?:

http://www.turfmaker.com./




Yep, must be government stuff.


I doubt the government owns any of those. I think they are owned by
subcontractors who provide the service to the prime contractor on
construction projects. I know they recently redid some roads here, with
new paving, curbs, and sidewalks, and some contractor came around and
sprayed the stuff. I have also seen it done when a developer is
building homes. If you want to look into it, call a large contractor
and ask for the name of his subcontractor. You could probably have it
done without having to buy the equipment, but I would guess it would be
more expensive than the traditional method I described above. I'm not
real confident that the slurry alone will produce a nice lawn; I think
it will produce a lawn with a lot of ryegrass, and you will have to do
something to get a finer grass to replace that. I worked in a new
building where they had used the slurry, and in the two years I was
there, they never got to the point where the grass looked good.
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Old 15-04-2006, 10:47 AM posted to rec.gardens
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"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
You still persist in your error in logic.

You have not referred to any professional recommendation or evidence that
says the method does not work. The professional recommendations to which
you refer say to use peat moss another way, which is not applicable here.
That does not mean it will not work in the way that is suggested here.

That peat moss is recommended for method B and works in method B does not
mean that it does not work in method A.

I notice that you ignored my previous posting to a garden site that
recommended applying peat moss on top of a lawn when reseeding. Here are

3
more. They were easily found.

http://www.hudginsgardencenter.com/h...care_guide.htm


http://extras.berkshireeagle.com/neb...ault.asp?id=ar
ticle18

http://www.skynursery.com/doc/garden_lawn_tips.htm

My other point is that, yes, I wrote, "I think this should work". I am
disagreeing with your opinion. I did not present my opinion as accepted
truth. You, on the other hand, have presented as known fact what is only
your view on the situation.


Andrew. A point of clarification here. The websites you referred to, one
talked about topdressing existing lawns with peat moss by raking it into the
existing turf and the other sugested covering grass seed with peat moss.
The first suggestion is, as far as I can see, about conditioning your soil
and adding organic material using a no till method.
The latter does not explain how to moss is to be applied.
The original post was about shredding and blowning peat moss on to newly
laid grass seed.

The unanswered question for me is the blowing bit. I cannot see bits of peat
moss fluff doing much. Getting it in to the right areas at the right
thickness must require raking. Bits of peat moss lying over a soil must be
subject to wind blow. What happens when the seed starts to germinate and
they have a nice layer of mulch stopping them getting to the sun.

Of interest value only, your opinion please.

rob
(rest of discussion snipped)


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http://www.hudginsgardencenter.com/h...care_guide.htm


http://extras.berkshireeagle.com/neb...ault.asp?id=ar
ticle18
http://www.skynursery.com/doc/garden_lawn_tips.htm


Andrew. A point of clarification here. The websites you referred to, one
talked about topdressing existing lawns with peat moss by raking it into

the
existing turf and the other sugested covering grass seed with peat moss.
The first suggestion is, as far as I can see, about conditioning your soil
and adding organic material using a no till method.
The latter does not explain how to moss is to be applied.
The original post was about shredding and blowning peat moss on to newly
laid grass seed.

No, actually every web site refers to putting peat moss on top of seed when
reseeding a lawn. I will quote one or two sentences from each of the web
sites:

"After applying lime, fertilizer, and seed to your lawn, we recommend you
cover the newly seeded areas with a light covering of peat moss or straw.
Peat moss is the most desirable and is excellent for average size areas."

"If your lawn is sparse, mix in seed with the peat moss when you're
top-dressing, and spread it with a rake."

"Apply seed, lime, and starter fertilizer, cover with peat moss or Grass
Mulch and thoroughly water."

The unanswered question for me is the blowing bit. I cannot see bits of

peat
moss fluff doing much. Getting it in to the right areas at the right
thickness must require raking. Bits of peat moss lying over a soil must be
subject to wind blow. What happens when the seed starts to germinate and
they have a nice layer of mulch stopping them getting to the sun.

Of interest value only, your opinion please.

rob
(rest of discussion snipped)


I don't know how blowing can be done. If the peat moss is dry it will blow
all over, better wear a dust mask for sure. If it is moist, it's harder to
blow. I never regarded the blowing as basic to the points I was disagreeing
with.

After the seed germinates the young blade will have to push its way through
a layer of moist peat moss. I don't see this as a problem; after all, peat
moss is a major component of most seed starter mixes.




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Mama Bear:

I`m sorry you have to put up with the few yahoos in this group (but at
least there are a few good ones out there) who feel they have to
denigrate someone just to justify their own feelings of inadequacy.
First of all, you were trying to follow up on something that you`d
heard about and thought was a good idea. There`s no harm in that...
what this bunch SHOULD have done is say, "well now, how good is this
source?" THEN say that they recommend you incorporate your peat moss
into the soil... etc. etc. etc.!

Realistically speaking, peat moss should be incorporated into the soil.
Even if it`s just a light scattering of 10 bales over a large (I think
one previous post said 8000 sq ft.) area, under any circumstances, a
light raking to evenly distribute it and incorporate it into the
topsoil should be OK and help conserve moisture. The moisture wicking
action only occurs under extremely dry conditions when the air moisture
is considerably less than the soil moisture (more rapid if air moisture
is 20-30% less than soil, especially if wind is blowing) and depends
extensively on where you live. You should not have to buy a
shredder/blower for this (or even rent one) as dry peat moss is
extremely friable and can be broken down in a wheelbarrow with a spade.

The alternative is to ask a company to blow your grass seed onto your
lawn. They do this with a kind of a slurry which is dyed green and
likely contains a mulch of partly-digested paper which helps to
conserve moisture (much like peat moss, if properly utilized). Since
they do this with specialized equipment, and I`m not entirely familiar
with this method of applying grass seeds, perhaps someone could expand
on this? There should be several companies in your area whith this
capabiliy - I suggest you shop around and compare prices. If they`re a
little out of your range, you can suggest that they seed at half the
rate they normally do (i.e. half the density of grass seed per litre of
mulch or something like that) then when they finish (wait till they`re
gone!), go over the entire lawn with a manual spreader and a bag of
premium grass seed.

Good luck Mama Bear!

My website (blogsite) is located at www.GCILifeSciences.blogspot.com,
which also lists discussion groups I moderate. Feel free to add your
opinion to these groups.

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I imagine the use of sphagnum peat over a newly seeded lawn is meant to help
hold moisture while the seed germinates. Just supposing, tho, as I didn't
see the original post.

Suzy, Wisconsin, Zone 5


"George.com" wrote in message
...

"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
...
You still persist in your error in logic.

You have not referred to any professional recommendation or evidence that
says the method does not work. The professional recommendations to which
you refer say to use peat moss another way, which is not applicable here.
That does not mean it will not work in the way that is suggested here.

That peat moss is recommended for method B and works in method B does not
mean that it does not work in method A.

I notice that you ignored my previous posting to a garden site that
recommended applying peat moss on top of a lawn when reseeding. Here are

3
more. They were easily found.

http://www.hudginsgardencenter.com/h...care_guide.htm


http://extras.berkshireeagle.com/neb...ault.asp?id=ar
ticle18

http://www.skynursery.com/doc/garden_lawn_tips.htm

My other point is that, yes, I wrote, "I think this should work". I am
disagreeing with your opinion. I did not present my opinion as accepted
truth. You, on the other hand, have presented as known fact what is only
your view on the situation.


Andrew. A point of clarification here. The websites you referred to, one
talked about topdressing existing lawns with peat moss by raking it into
the
existing turf and the other sugested covering grass seed with peat moss.
The first suggestion is, as far as I can see, about conditioning your soil
and adding organic material using a no till method.
The latter does not explain how to moss is to be applied.
The original post was about shredding and blowning peat moss on to newly
laid grass seed.

The unanswered question for me is the blowing bit. I cannot see bits of
peat
moss fluff doing much. Getting it in to the right areas at the right
thickness must require raking. Bits of peat moss lying over a soil must be
subject to wind blow. What happens when the seed starts to germinate and
they have a nice layer of mulch stopping them getting to the sun.

Of interest value only, your opinion please.

rob
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Old 22-04-2006, 11:44 AM posted to rec.gardens
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"Plant Info" wrote in message
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I imagine the use of sphagnum peat over a newly seeded lawn is meant to

help
hold moisture while the seed germinates. Just supposing, tho, as I didn't
see the original post.

Suzy, Wisconsin, Zone 5


yes, that was the idea. It may work however I think there are easier and
more sure fire ways of going about it. Seems work and a waste of good peat
moss to my mind.

rob

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"Andrew Ostrander" wrote in message
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You still persist in your error in logic.

You have not referred to any professional recommendation or evidence

that
says the method does not work. The professional recommendations to

which
you refer say to use peat moss another way, which is not applicable

here.
That does not mean it will not work in the way that is suggested here.

That peat moss is recommended for method B and works in method B does

not
mean that it does not work in method A.

I notice that you ignored my previous posting to a garden site that
recommended applying peat moss on top of a lawn when reseeding. Here

are
3
more. They were easily found.

http://www.hudginsgardencenter.com/h...care_guide.htm



http://extras.berkshireeagle.com/neb...ault.asp?id=ar
ticle18

http://www.skynursery.com/doc/garden_lawn_tips.htm

My other point is that, yes, I wrote, "I think this should work". I am
disagreeing with your opinion. I did not present my opinion as

accepted
truth. You, on the other hand, have presented as known fact what is

only
your view on the situation.


Andrew. A point of clarification here. The websites you referred to, one
talked about topdressing existing lawns with peat moss by raking it into
the
existing turf and the other sugested covering grass seed with peat moss.
The first suggestion is, as far as I can see, about conditioning your

soil
and adding organic material using a no till method.
The latter does not explain how to moss is to be applied.
The original post was about shredding and blowning peat moss on to newly
laid grass seed.

The unanswered question for me is the blowing bit. I cannot see bits of
peat
moss fluff doing much. Getting it in to the right areas at the right
thickness must require raking. Bits of peat moss lying over a soil must

be
subject to wind blow. What happens when the seed starts to germinate and
they have a nice layer of mulch stopping them getting to the sun.

Of interest value only, your opinion please.

rob
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Old 23-04-2006, 06:59 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Default Shredding & blowing peat moss on lawn?

On Tuesday, April 4, 2006 8:18:12 PM UTC-4, Mama Bear wrote:
Someone was telling me that they can use a shredder-blower to shred
peat moss and spray a think layer of it all over your lawn after
putting down grass seed, then you water and it helps keep the
moisture in and start the seed so it doesn't dry out.

What do they call the blower that can do that and what do they
usually cost?



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Mama Bear:

You can buy a leaf vacuum/blower at any big box store like Home Depot or Lowes, as well as many, many stores that sell gardening equipment. Many, perhaps most, use the fan blade to chop up leaves as well and are perfect for spreading peat moss. The ones I'm familiar with are electric and you should be able to find one for considerably less than $100, particularly if you wait for the fall sales. The cost of the bales of peat moss should be in the neighbourhood of +/- $25 per 1000 square feet. Go to the following YouTube link to see a video demonstration: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJDkRcLrLzk

On another note, I sympathize with regard to people who ignore the simple straight-forward question you ask and instead clog the thread with irrelevant and unasked for advice, much of it simply wrong, which leaves you and others who might have come across your post in search of an simple answer to a simple question absolutely frustrated. People, if you can't answer the question that was asked of you here, BUZZ, for lack of the stronger word, OFF!!!!!
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