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higgledy 11-05-2006 11:31 PM

Bone Meal
 
I bought a bag of bone meal to add to the soil when I transplant my
tulips. Why is bone meal a good fertilizer for flower bulbs and rose
bushes? Is any fertilizer high in phosphate just as good as bone meal?.


[email protected] 12-05-2006 01:31 AM

Bone Meal
 
"BONE MEAL [bone meal] finely ground bone used as a fertilizer for its
content of phosphate and nitrogen (about 23%-30% available phosphate
and 2%-4% nitrogen); it is an expensive form of phosphoric acid when
compared with superphosphates . Bone meal is also fed to farm animals
to supply needed mineral food constituents, e.g., calcium and
phosphorus. " From the Columbia Encyclopedia. Bone meal is expensive,
but works fine for organic gardeners. Should I need phosphate I use
superphosphate or a fertilizer with a high middle number. BUT only
after a soil test to determine that I need it.


David E. Ross 12-05-2006 02:09 AM

Bone Meal
 
higgledy wrote:
I bought a bag of bone meal to add to the soil when I transplant my
tulips. Why is bone meal a good fertilizer for flower bulbs and rose
bushes? Is any fertilizer high in phosphate just as good as bone meal?.


Phosphorus promotes flowers, fruits, and roots. The calcium in bone
meal also promotes roots.

Bone meal must be processed by soil bacteria to release the phosphorus
and calcium. I use bone meal in flower pots and other containers
because this processing is sufficiently slow that I don't worry about
roots getting burned.

In the ground, I generally use superphosphate, making sure there is a
layer of unenriched soil between the plant, bulb, etc and the enriched
soil. In this case, root burn is generally not a problem.

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Phil Palmer 12-05-2006 03:19 AM

Bone Meal
 
Thanks David and FarmerDill. Can you offer a brandname of a superphosphate?

Thanks again.
"David E. Ross" wrote in message
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higgledy wrote:
I bought a bag of bone meal to add to the soil when I transplant my
tulips. Why is bone meal a good fertilizer for flower bulbs and rose
bushes? Is any fertilizer high in phosphate just as good as bone meal?.


Phosphorus promotes flowers, fruits, and roots. The calcium in bone meal
also promotes roots.

Bone meal must be processed by soil bacteria to release the phosphorus and
calcium. I use bone meal in flower pots and other containers because this
processing is sufficiently slow that I don't worry about roots getting
burned.

In the ground, I generally use superphosphate, making sure there is a
layer of unenriched soil between the plant, bulb, etc and the enriched
soil. In this case, root burn is generally not a problem.

--

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Phisherman 12-05-2006 10:47 AM

Bone Meal
 
On 11 May 2006 15:31:15 -0700, "higgledy" wrote:

I bought a bag of bone meal to add to the soil when I transplant my
tulips. Why is bone meal a good fertilizer for flower bulbs and rose
bushes? Is any fertilizer high in phosphate just as good as bone meal?.



Bone meal is particularly high in phosphorus. It is "organic" and by
nature a slow release fertilizer, great for tubers and bulbs. Rock
phosphate (crushed limestone) is another good fertilizer very high in
phosphorus. Dried seagull bird poop is another source of phosphorus,
although to a lesser extent than the two mentioned. Personally, I use
fish emulsion and composted cow manure on my roses with excellent
results.

George.com 12-05-2006 01:38 PM

Bone Meal
 

"Phisherman" wrote in message
...
On 11 May 2006 15:31:15 -0700, "higgledy" wrote:

I bought a bag of bone meal to add to the soil when I transplant my
tulips. Why is bone meal a good fertilizer for flower bulbs and rose
bushes? Is any fertilizer high in phosphate just as good as bone meal?.



Bone meal is particularly high in phosphorus. It is "organic" and by
nature a slow release fertilizer, great for tubers and bulbs. Rock
phosphate (crushed limestone) is another good fertilizer very high in
phosphorus. Dried seagull bird poop is another source of phosphorus,
although to a lesser extent than the two mentioned.


where do you get your dried seagull poop from? The pacific island of Nauru
was a rich source of guano (bird shit) that got mined extensivley after ww2
I believe and used as the basis for superphosphate. It made the island mega
rich at one point. Now the interior of the island resembles a moonscape.
Essentially rooted. We had a good hand in that, spreading phosphate over our
pasture for 3 decades.
http://www.pacific-picture.de/deutsch/nauru.htm
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0304a/nauru.html

Personally, I use
fish emulsion and composted cow manure on my roses with excellent
results.


where do you source your cow poop from? how is it collected?

rob



David E. Ross 12-05-2006 11:36 PM

Bone Meal
 
higgledy wrote:
I bought a bag of bone meal to add to the soil when I transplant my
tulips. Why is bone meal a good fertilizer for flower bulbs and rose
bushes? Is any fertilizer high in phosphate just as good as bone meal?.


By the way, whether you use bone meal or superphosphate, it must be in
the soil where plant roots will find it. Phosphorus does not readily
dissolve and travel through the soil. Broadcasting fertilizer on the
soil's surface will not put phosphorus where it is needed.

If I want to provide phosphorus to an established plant, I must dig it
into the soil where surface feeder roots will find it. Otherwise, I
take a length of steel rebar and ram it into the soil about 18 inches
near the plant I want to feed, work it around to make a hole, and then
use a funnel to pour bone meal or superphosphate down the hole. I might
do this for three or four holes around the plant.

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higgledy 14-05-2006 01:59 PM

Bone Meal
 
Somewhere I learned this fact about phosphorus not leeching into the
soil readily. I placed one tsp. into each hole then the tulip bulb, per
the directions on the bag.



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