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Old 27-05-2006, 05:53 PM posted to rec.gardens
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Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do to kill
this pest?




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Old 27-05-2006, 06:13 PM posted to rec.gardens
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David Shepherd wrote:

Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do to kill
this pest?





It's obviously an Ironic Bug.

lol! sorry

Carl


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Old 28-05-2006, 12:22 AM posted to rec.gardens
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I was waiting for something like this



"Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message
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David Shepherd wrote:

Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The
existing leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new
growth is coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a
chance to open. I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there
anything I can do to kill this pest?





It's obviously an Ironic Bug.

lol! sorry

Carl


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Old 29-05-2006, 04:59 AM posted to rec.gardens
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Uh-Oh! Usualy flowering in fly-traps is not a good sign! It's one of
those, "I'm gonna die, so time to hurry up and reproduce things..."

Did you purchase it at Walmart per chance?

I got one from there and have been having problems with it. Then
again, I got it from Walmart, so I guess I can't expect the best
condition....

One thing I learned is that each trap only works about 3 or 4 times
before dying. A pesky youngster who often plays with the traps can
actualy kill the plant overtime, so I told my neice that this was the
plant from "Little Shop of Horors, i.e. "Audrey II", and that it will
eat her if she gets to close.....

-Jason

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Old 29-05-2006, 11:33 AM posted to rec.gardens
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Oh no, I hope this plant will not die. The condition gets worse every day
now. I was so careful last summer, and gave it a nice cold place to rest
over the winter. In spring the plant came back to life with big red traps,
the best I have ever managed.



Today I will cut off all the dead traps, even the new ones are coming up
black so they can go too. I will post the results if there is any change in
condition.



Oh, and the plant was not from Walmart, it was from a garden centre. They
probably used tap water on it.



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Uh-Oh! Usualy flowering in fly-traps is not a good sign! It's one of
those, "I'm gonna die, so time to hurry up and reproduce things..."

Did you purchase it at Walmart per chance?

I got one from there and have been having problems with it. Then
again, I got it from Walmart, so I guess I can't expect the best
condition....

One thing I learned is that each trap only works about 3 or 4 times
before dying. A pesky youngster who often plays with the traps can
actualy kill the plant overtime, so I told my neice that this was the
plant from "Little Shop of Horors, i.e. "Audrey II", and that it will
eat her if she gets to close.....

-Jason





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Old 27-05-2006, 08:47 PM posted to rec.gardens
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In article , daveshep666
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Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do to kill
this pest?

Your description sounds like mine I have around a pond waterfall, when
it gets too wet. I move it so there is not any water splash on the
plant and the new growth seems fine.

Lar
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Old 28-05-2006, 12:11 AM posted to rec.gardens
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That could be it. I have been keeping the plant very wet in an attempt to
drown the pest that is eating it, maybe its time to let the soil dry out a
little and see what happens. Thanks for the tip.



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In article , daveshep666
@___REMOVE_THIS___hotmail.com says...
Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The
existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth
is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to
open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do
to kill
this pest?

Your description sounds like mine I have around a pond waterfall, when
it gets too wet. I move it so there is not any water splash on the
plant and the new growth seems fine.

Lar



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Old 29-05-2006, 02:25 PM posted to rec.gardens
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"David Shepherd"
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That could be it. I have been keeping the plant very wet in
an attempt to drown the pest that is eating it, maybe its
time to let the soil dry out a little and see what happens.
Thanks for the tip.


never water from the top. place a potted fly trap in a dish
with stones & water to the surface of the stones. they need
humidity but hate being soaked... kinda like African violets.

how does one deal with aphids on a pitcher plant? the
ladybugs end up getting eaten...
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I agree. they grow in bogs, but not in water. it is rotting. INgrid

Lar wrote:

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Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do to kill
this pest?

Your description sounds like mine I have around a pond waterfall, when
it gets too wet. I move it so there is not any water splash on the
plant and the new growth seems fine.

Lar




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On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:53:09 +0100, "David Shepherd"
wrote:

Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do to kill
this pest?





Venus Fly trap is sensitive and temperamental. It needs full sun,
high humidity, damp soil. Use distilled or rainwater, no fertilizer,
avoid teasing/feeding the traps. I'm wondering if this plant will do
well on the edge of my spring-fed pond, east TN.


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Old 28-05-2006, 12:18 AM posted to rec.gardens
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The plant is in the second year of life, I've only ever given it rainwater
and deionised water. It has plenty of sun, but maybe not much humidity. It
started to grow a flower just before these problems happened. I cut the
flower off after reading that it takes too much energy from the plant.
Hopefully it was the right thing to do.





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On Sat, 27 May 2006 17:53:09 +0100, "David Shepherd"
wrote:

Something is eating my Venus Fly Trap. I don't know what it is. The
existing
leaves are being eaten and turning yellow then dying, the new growth is
coming up red but then turning black before the traps have a chance to
open.
I can not see anything living in the pot. Is there anything I can do to
kill
this pest?





Venus Fly trap is sensitive and temperamental. It needs full sun,
high humidity, damp soil. Use distilled or rainwater, no fertilizer,
avoid teasing/feeding the traps. I'm wondering if this plant will do
well on the edge of my spring-fed pond, east TN.



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Old 29-05-2006, 02:28 PM posted to rec.gardens
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"David Shepherd"
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The plant is in the second year of life, I've only ever
given it rainwater and deionised water. It has plenty of
sun, but maybe not much humidity. It started to grow a
flower just before these problems happened. I cut the
flower off after reading that it takes too much energy from
the plant. Hopefully it was the right thing to do.


cutting the flowers is usually recommended for indoor fly
traps, but i had one for 5 years that had 3 or 4 flowers per
year... it died when i had propane installed & the vent was
under the window where i had the fly trap
my sundew used to bloom in the winter & reseed its self.
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David Shepherd wrote:
The plant is in the second year of life, I've only ever given it rainwater
and deionised water. It has plenty of sun, but maybe not much humidity. It
started to grow a flower just before these problems happened. I cut the
flower off after reading that it takes too much energy from the plant.
Hopefully it was the right thing to do.



Given the apparent health of the plant, cutting the flower was probably
for the best. Fowering diverts energy away from vegetative growth. If
the plant is struggling it may not have enough energy to spare. BTW,
flowering is perfectly normal for flytraps. It's generally not a sign
of poor health. Unfortunately flytrap flower cues often take precedence
over ability.
You're obviously doing right with regard to water quality and sunlight.
How much is 'not much humidity'? 60-80% is around optimal but mine are
outside and get down to 30-40% in summer without much set back so long
as the water is kept up to them.
A few questions:
How big is the pot?
4"-6" pots are suitable (or bigger if you want). The 2" pots are OK for
seedlings etc but they do restrict root growth and if you're watering
by sitting the pot in a tray of water (as is usually recommended) it
can stay a little too wet. With pots over 4" you can sit the pot in an
inch of water the plant will still have enough root space above the
water level.

When was the last time it was repotted?
Peatmoss + sand mixes are most common for these plants. Unfortunately,
wet peat (which flytraps like to grow in) sours easily. Replacing the
mix every two years is recommended. It might be a little late in the
season to disturb the roots and repot yours. Repotting in winter/early
spring is recommended (ie when it's dormant). You may be able to buy
time until then by 'potting up' the plant into a larger pot using fresh
peat mix (2 peatmoss: 1 sand) around the undisturbed rootball.

Did you let it go dormant?
Flytraps are native to southern North Carolina crossing over into the
northern part of South Carolina. ie they are temperate plants and need
a cool winter dormancy. ~Zone 8-10 winter minimums will probably give
the best rest period. If you're in a subtropical/tropical area or
growing them indoors (windowsill/terrarium) you will need to find a way
of providing them with a ~3 month cool dormancy period.

If you really want to succeed with these plants, I'd suggest you do
yourself a huge favour and track down The Savage Garden by Peter
D'amato. It's reasonably priced (I think it's still in print), and
gives a fairly thorough coverage of how to grow flaytraps and most
other carnivorous plant genera. The writer is an accomplished grower of
carnivorous plants so the info is reliable. To be honest, you've got
the most important requirement (low ppm water) under control. With a
bit of fine tuning in your culture you'll soon realise that flytraps
are dead easy to grow.

Good luck,
Andrew

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Hi Andrew

Thank you for the amazing amount of information you have put into this post.
It seems there is still so much to learn about these plants. I managed to
track down a copy of Savage Garden on Amazon, and have it on order.
Hopefully this will help me to finally manage to grow these plants
successfully.



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David Shepherd wrote:
The plant is in the second year of life, I've only ever given it
rainwater
and deionised water. It has plenty of sun, but maybe not much humidity.
It
started to grow a flower just before these problems happened. I cut the
flower off after reading that it takes too much energy from the plant.
Hopefully it was the right thing to do.



Given the apparent health of the plant, cutting the flower was probably
for the best. Fowering diverts energy away from vegetative growth. If
the plant is struggling it may not have enough energy to spare. BTW,
flowering is perfectly normal for flytraps. It's generally not a sign
of poor health. Unfortunately flytrap flower cues often take precedence
over ability.
You're obviously doing right with regard to water quality and sunlight.
How much is 'not much humidity'? 60-80% is around optimal but mine are
outside and get down to 30-40% in summer without much set back so long
as the water is kept up to them.
A few questions:
How big is the pot?
4"-6" pots are suitable (or bigger if you want). The 2" pots are OK for
seedlings etc but they do restrict root growth and if you're watering
by sitting the pot in a tray of water (as is usually recommended) it
can stay a little too wet. With pots over 4" you can sit the pot in an
inch of water the plant will still have enough root space above the
water level.

When was the last time it was repotted?
Peatmoss + sand mixes are most common for these plants. Unfortunately,
wet peat (which flytraps like to grow in) sours easily. Replacing the
mix every two years is recommended. It might be a little late in the
season to disturb the roots and repot yours. Repotting in winter/early
spring is recommended (ie when it's dormant). You may be able to buy
time until then by 'potting up' the plant into a larger pot using fresh
peat mix (2 peatmoss: 1 sand) around the undisturbed rootball.

Did you let it go dormant?
Flytraps are native to southern North Carolina crossing over into the
northern part of South Carolina. ie they are temperate plants and need
a cool winter dormancy. ~Zone 8-10 winter minimums will probably give
the best rest period. If you're in a subtropical/tropical area or
growing them indoors (windowsill/terrarium) you will need to find a way
of providing them with a ~3 month cool dormancy period.

If you really want to succeed with these plants, I'd suggest you do
yourself a huge favour and track down The Savage Garden by Peter
D'amato. It's reasonably priced (I think it's still in print), and
gives a fairly thorough coverage of how to grow flaytraps and most
other carnivorous plant genera. The writer is an accomplished grower of
carnivorous plants so the info is reliable. To be honest, you've got
the most important requirement (low ppm water) under control. With a
bit of fine tuning in your culture you'll soon realise that flytraps
are dead easy to grow.

Good luck,
Andrew



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David Shepherd wrote:
Hi Andrew

Thank you for the amazing amount of information you have put into this post.
It seems there is still so much to learn about these plants. I managed to
track down a copy of Savage Garden on Amazon, and have it on order.
Hopefully this will help me to finally manage to grow these plants
successfully.


Your welcome. FWIW I have maybe a few hundred flytraps growing outside
in Melbourne, Australia (equivalent to the lower end of USDA10).
They're in 6" pots sat in 1" deep water trays in a protected spot that
gets full sun. Other than filling up the water tray, I leave them to
their own devices and they thrive.
Andrew



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