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Hi. I'm trying to ID a couple of trees, but can't seem to locate the right
place online for that. I do have a tree book, but would like some better
opinions from anyone who cares to take a look. Also, if there is a good
place online for this kind of thing, I'd appreciate a referral.

The trees below are in northern NJ.

This is the first one. Is this a mulberry?
http://tinyurl.com/jnagr

Second tree - crabapple? Some of the pics are a little blurry. The fruit
is not a cherry. It looks like a very small crabapple.
http://tinyurl.com/hpg6v

This is a tree that fell over. It is quite large, and I'm not sure how
large mulberry trees get. The other thing is that some of the trunk
branches are silvery, almost like a beech tree, of which there are many in
the area.
http://tinyurl.com/ebeyn

The reason I have to be sure is that I want to prune some branches for some
exotic pets, and mulberry and crabapple are OK for them. They chew on the
bark of certain trees, but other trees such as oak and cherry can be toxic
to them. They're here, fwiw: http://tinyurl.com/4cnhy

That about covers it. I'd really appreciate any opinions or advice.

Thanks,
dwhite


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Dan White wrote:
Hi. I'm trying to ID a couple of trees, but can't seem to locate the right
place online for that. I do have a tree book, but would like some better
opinions from anyone who cares to take a look. Also, if there is a good
place online for this kind of thing, I'd appreciate a referral.

The trees below are in northern NJ.

This is the first one. Is this a mulberry?
http://tinyurl.com/jnagr

Second tree - crabapple? Some of the pics are a little blurry. The fruit
is not a cherry. It looks like a very small crabapple.
http://tinyurl.com/hpg6v

This is a tree that fell over. It is quite large, and I'm not sure how
large mulberry trees get. The other thing is that some of the trunk
branches are silvery, almost like a beech tree, of which there are many in
the area.
http://tinyurl.com/ebeyn

The reason I have to be sure is that I want to prune some branches for some
exotic pets, and mulberry and crabapple are OK for them. They chew on the
bark of certain trees, but other trees such as oak and cherry can be toxic
to them. They're here, fwiw: http://tinyurl.com/4cnhy

That about covers it. I'd really appreciate any opinions or advice.

Thanks,
dwhite


I don't see any mulberry trees there. The first one looks like a
cottonwood or something in that family. The 3rd one could be the same
thing from what I can see.
The crabapple might be correct. The close up views of the leaves look
like apple leaves. If you go back and can find a fruit again, cut it in
half across the middle. If it has the 5 compartments with seeds, like a
big apple, you have a winner.

Steve
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"Steve" wrote in message
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Dan White wrote:
Hi. I'm trying to ID a couple of trees, but can't seem to locate the

right
place online for that. I do have a tree book, but would like some

better
opinions from anyone who cares to take a look. Also, if there is a good
place online for this kind of thing, I'd appreciate a referral.

The trees below are in northern NJ.

This is the first one. Is this a mulberry?
http://tinyurl.com/jnagr

Second tree - crabapple? Some of the pics are a little blurry. The

fruit
is not a cherry. It looks like a very small crabapple.
http://tinyurl.com/hpg6v

This is a tree that fell over. It is quite large, and I'm not sure how
large mulberry trees get. The other thing is that some of the trunk
branches are silvery, almost like a beech tree, of which there are many

in
the area.
http://tinyurl.com/ebeyn

The reason I have to be sure is that I want to prune some branches for

some
exotic pets, and mulberry and crabapple are OK for them. They chew on

the
bark of certain trees, but other trees such as oak and cherry can be

toxic
to them. They're here, fwiw: http://tinyurl.com/4cnhy

That about covers it. I'd really appreciate any opinions or advice.

Thanks,
dwhite


I don't see any mulberry trees there. The first one looks like a
cottonwood or something in that family. The 3rd one could be the same
thing from what I can see.


I think the first and third are the same type of tree. I was thinking they
might have been mulberry because of the sawtooth leaves and the bark. I
have a small stand of smaller mulberry trees and the leaves from one to the
next are different. The bark in these two unknown trees looked a lot like
the mulberry, but the one that had fallen over, in particular, was very big.
I don't know if mulberry gets that large. Are you saying that these
definitely are not mulberry trees?

The crabapple might be correct. The close up views of the leaves look
like apple leaves. If you go back and can find a fruit again, cut it in
half across the middle. If it has the 5 compartments with seeds, like a
big apple, you have a winner.


OK, that's a great idea. Thanks!

dwhite


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Dan White wrote:
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........................... Are you saying that these
definitely are not mulberry trees?
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Yeah. I've never seen a mulberry get anywhere near that big. There is
more than one species of mulberry but the ones I know have leaves with a
variable shape. For example, like this:
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/RedMulber...rryLeafWeb.jpg
I would suppose there are some with leaves all the same. Let me grab my
tree book and see if it lists a maximum height....
The Red Mulberry, native to most of the eastern US seems to be the
tallest at up to 66 feet.

I just went back and looked at your pictures again. I just don't see
anything there that reminds me of mulberry. To be honest though, they
don't look exactly like cotton wood or poplar either, which was my first
thought. I'll try to give this more thought in the next day or two.

Steve
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"Steve" wrote in message
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Dan White wrote:
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........................... Are you saying that these
definitely are not mulberry trees?
..................



Yeah. I've never seen a mulberry get anywhere near that big. There is
more than one species of mulberry but the ones I know have leaves with a
variable shape. For example, like this:
http://www.sfrc.ufl.edu/4h/RedMulber...rryLeafWeb.jpg
I would suppose there are some with leaves all the same. Let me grab my
tree book and see if it lists a maximum height....
The Red Mulberry, native to most of the eastern US seems to be the
tallest at up to 66 feet.

I just went back and looked at your pictures again. I just don't see
anything there that reminds me of mulberry. To be honest though, they
don't look exactly like cotton wood or poplar either, which was my first
thought. I'll try to give this more thought in the next day or two.


Thanks. The leaves do kind of look like the leftmost one in your pics, but
they are all the same. There is a mulberry tree in my father's yard that
fruits every year. Those leaves are not all that variable. There is some
variability, but not much. So not being a tree expert, I thought that maybe
after mulberry trees get to a certain size their properties change. I have
read that they stop producing fruit after awhile, too.

dwhite




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I'm not sure of the exact species, but the large tree which fell looks like
a Linden (Tilia).


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Second tree - crabapple? Some of the pics are a little blurry. The fruit
is not a cherry. It looks like a very small crabapple.
http://tinyurl.com/hpg6v


That looks right.

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I'm not sure of the exact species, but the large tree which fell looks

like
a Linden (Tilia).


Thanks to everybody who gave me a hand. Linden looks very much like the
felled tree. Looks like mulberry is pretty much counted out.

regards,
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Yes, the fallen one is a Lime (Tilia), the first is definitely of the
Poplar family.
Dan White wrote:
"AlanG" wrote in message
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I'm not sure of the exact species, but the large tree which fell looks

like
a Linden (Tilia).


Thanks to everybody who gave me a hand. Linden looks very much like the
felled tree. Looks like mulberry is pretty much counted out.

regards,
dwhite\


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