Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated
trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
chatnoir wrote:
Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
On 12/8/06 6:39 PM, in article
, "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl I'd add rugosa roses, hollies and other spiny ornamentals. Cheryl |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl Looks great and is not a pest plant outlawed for selling as some I have looked at such as Yellow Star thistle - and I can see why that is outlawed!! I am in zone 5 and xeriscape and like to attract bees! Liiks good but No vendor listed@ http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcoc/pyrcoc1.html Looks like some varieties are pretty well tamed! |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Cheryl Isaak wrote: On 12/8/06 6:39 PM, in article , "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl I'd add rugosa roses, hollies and other spiny ornamentals. Cheryl Will look into it! |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
On 8 Dec 2006 12:48:31 -0800, "chatnoir"
wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Agaves, artichokes, Natal Plum |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
chatnoir wrote:
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl Looks great and is not a pest plant outlawed for selling as some I have looked at such as Yellow Star thistle - and I can see why that is outlawed!! I am in zone 5 and xeriscape and like to attract bees! Liiks good but No vendor listed@ http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcoc/pyrcoc1.html Looks like some varieties are pretty well tamed! http://www.forestfarm.com/search/sea...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go or http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl Looks great and is not a pest plant outlawed for selling as some I have looked at such as Yellow Star thistle - and I can see why that is outlawed!! I am in zone 5 and xeriscape and like to attract bees! Liiks good but No vendor listed@ http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcoc/pyrcoc1.html Looks like some varieties are pretty well tamed! http://www.forestfarm.com/search/sea...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go or http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Carl Thankyou -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl Looks great and is not a pest plant outlawed for selling as some I have looked at such as Yellow Star thistle - and I can see why that is outlawed!! I am in zone 5 and xeriscape and like to attract bees! Liiks good but No vendor listed@ http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcoc/pyrcoc1.html Looks like some varieties are pretty well tamed! http://www.forestfarm.com/search/sea...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go or http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Carl This is what I always find interesting and confusing! The Forest Farm site: http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Lists: Pyracantha angustifolia 'Gnome' (R) COMPACT FIRETHORN Dec (z5) Pyracantha coccinea 'Harlequin' VARIEGATED FIRETHORN EG (z7) But Daves Plants lists it as!: Pyracantha angustifolia - USDA Zone 6b: to -20.5° C (-5° F) as the limit Pyracantha coccinea - USDA Zone 5a: to -28.8° C (-20° F) as the limit The USDA site tends to support Dave's plants Position: http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PYRAC ---------- I mean over the years I have bought Xeriscapic plants with XXXXX rating - Could grow on Venus essentially! They are the first to fold in a heat wave! Wii try the Pyracantha coccinea! |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl Looks great and is not a pest plant outlawed for selling as some I have looked at such as Yellow Star thistle - and I can see why that is outlawed!! I am in zone 5 and xeriscape and like to attract bees! Liiks good but No vendor listed@ http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcoc/pyrcoc1.html Looks like some varieties are pretty well tamed! http://www.forestfarm.com/search/sea...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go or http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Carl This is what I always find interesting and confusing! The Forest Farm site: http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Lists: Pyracantha angustifolia 'Gnome' (R) COMPACT FIRETHORN Dec (z5) Pyracantha coccinea 'Harlequin' VARIEGATED FIRETHORN EG (z7) But Daves Plants lists it as!: Pyracantha angustifolia - USDA Zone 6b: to -20.5° C (-5° F) as the limit Pyracantha coccinea - USDA Zone 5a: to -28.8° C (-20° F) as the limit The USDA site tends to support Dave's plants Position: http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PYRAC ---------- I mean over the years I have bought Xeriscapic plants with XXXXX rating - Could grow on Venus essentially! They are the first to fold in a heat wave! Wii try the Pyracantha coccinea! |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
chatnoir wrote:
Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Carl 1 Lucky Texan wrote: chatnoir wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Might depend on where you live (zone/water,etc.) and your local 'setback' and utility eaements etc. But , in many communities, a close neighbor would actually havr to register a complaint for most plants I think. check out pyracantha. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1707/index.html Carl Looks great and is not a pest plant outlawed for selling as some I have looked at such as Yellow Star thistle - and I can see why that is outlawed!! I am in zone 5 and xeriscape and like to attract bees! Liiks good but No vendor listed@ http://www.hort.uconn.edu/plants/p/pyrcoc/pyrcoc1.html Looks like some varieties are pretty well tamed! http://www.forestfarm.com/search/sea...0&Go.y=0&Go=Go or http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Carl This is what I always find interesting and confusing! The Forest Farm site: http://tinyurl.com/sel8h Lists: Pyracantha angustifolia 'Gnome' (R) COMPACT FIRETHORN Dec (z5) Pyracantha coccinea 'Harlequin' VARIEGATED FIRETHORN EG (z7) But Daves Plants lists it as!: Pyracantha angustifolia - USDA Zone 6b: to -20.5° C (-5° F) as the limit Pyracantha coccinea - USDA Zone 5a: to -28.8° C (-20° F) as the limit The USDA site tends to support Dave's plants Position: http://plants.usda.gov/java/profile?symbol=PYRAC ---------- I mean over the years I have bought Xeriscapic plants with XXXXX rating - Could grow on Venus essentially! They are the first to fold in a heat wave! Wii try the Pyracantha coccinea! Perhaps some of the cultivars are more sensitive than the species? I dunno Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
Charles wrote: On 8 Dec 2006 12:48:31 -0800, "chatnoir" wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Agaves, artichokes, Natal Plum Looks like a good one! http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/...greenbrier.htm header: Bristly Greenbrier Smilax hispida Lily family (Liliaceae) Description: This native woody vine is up to 10-15' long; it climbs over adjacent shrubs or the lower branches of trees using tendrils. The woody stems are mostly green and round; lower stems are heavily armed with stout straight spines and stiff bristles, while upper stems have few, if any, spines. These spines and bristles become dark brown or black with age. The alternate leaves are up to 5" long and 4" across; they are oval to broadly ovate, smooth along the margins, and hairless. Their margins may have minute teeth, but this is easier to see with a 10x hand lens. Each leaf has 3-7 parallel veins; its upper surface is green, while the lower surface is light green (but not glaucous). At the base of each leaf, there is a slender petiole and a pair of curly tendrils. These tendrils are initially green, but they later become rather stiff and brown. ... |
[quote=chatnoir]Charles wrote:
On 8 Dec 2006 12:48:31 -0800, "chatnoir" wrote: Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact? Agaves, artichokes, Natal Plum Looks like a good one! http://www.illinoiswildflowers.info/...greenbrier.htm header: Bristly Greenbrier Smilax hispida Lily family (Liliaceae) Description: This native woody vine is up to 10-15' long; it climbs over adjacent shrubs or the lower branches of trees using tendrils. The woody stems are mostly green and round; lower stems are heavily armed with stout straight spines and stiff bristles, while upper stems have few, if any, spines. These spines and bristles become dark brown or black with age. The alternate leaves are up to 5" long and 4" across; they are oval to broadly ovate, smooth along the margins, and hairless. Their margins may have minute teeth, but this is easier to see with a 10x hand lens. Each leaf has 3-7 parallel veins; its upper surface is green, while the lower surface is light green (but not glaucous). At the base of each leaf, there is a slender petiole and a pair of curly tendrils. These tendrils are initially green, but they later become rather stiff and brown. ... we had a thorny plants at the garden center where i worked and they were none to friendly. we had to use gloves to move the things. it was called a devils walking stick. here is a link that might help u some. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1658.html good luck, sockiescat:). |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
sockiescat wrote:
chatnoir Wrote: Charles wrote:- On 8 Dec 2006 12:48:31 -0800, "chatnoir" wrote: - Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact?- Agaves, artichokes, Natal Plum- Looks like a good one! http://tinyurl.com/yygzso header: Bristly Greenbrier Smilax hispida Lily family (Liliaceae) Description: This native woody vine is up to 10-15' long; it climbs over adjacent shrubs or the lower branches of trees using tendrils. The woody stems are mostly green and round; lower stems are heavily armed with stout straight spines and stiff bristles, while upper stems have few, if any, spines. These spines and bristles become dark brown or black with age. The alternate leaves are up to 5" long and 4" across; they are oval to broadly ovate, smooth along the margins, and hairless. Their margins may have minute teeth, but this is easier to see with a 10x hand lens. Each leaf has 3-7 parallel veins; its upper surface is green, while the lower surface is light green (but not glaucous). At the base of each leaf, there is a slender petiole and a pair of curly tendrils. These tendrils are initially green, but they later become rather stiff and brown. ... we had a thorny plants at the garden center where i worked and they were none to friendly. we had to use gloves to move the things. it was called a devils walking stick. here is a link that might help u some. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1658.html good luck, sockiescat:). What about Hawthornes? Kate |
Thornes, spines and Stinging Nettles!
sockiescat wrote: chatnoir Wrote: Charles wrote:- On 8 Dec 2006 12:48:31 -0800, "chatnoir" wrote: - Living near a particularly revolting bar, I am subjected to repeated trespass or my property and destruction ot same! In the front I planted stinging Nettle! A major success although of questionable legal standing! Are there any plants with spines or thorns that will do the same job with less legal impact?- Agaves, artichokes, Natal Plum- Looks like a good one! http://tinyurl.com/yygzso header: Bristly Greenbrier Smilax hispida Lily family (Liliaceae) Description: This native woody vine is up to 10-15' long; it climbs over adjacent shrubs or the lower branches of trees using tendrils. The woody stems are mostly green and round; lower stems are heavily armed with stout straight spines and stiff bristles, while upper stems have few, if any, spines. These spines and bristles become dark brown or black with age. The alternate leaves are up to 5" long and 4" across; they are oval to broadly ovate, smooth along the margins, and hairless. Their margins may have minute teeth, but this is easier to see with a 10x hand lens. Each leaf has 3-7 parallel veins; its upper surface is green, while the lower surface is light green (but not glaucous). At the base of each leaf, there is a slender petiole and a pair of curly tendrils. These tendrils are initially green, but they later become rather stiff and brown. ... we had a thorny plants at the garden center where i worked and they were none to friendly. we had to use gloves to move the things. it was called a devils walking stick. here is a link that might help u some. http://davesgarden.com/pf/go/1658.html good luck, sockiescat:). Looks good! |
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