Here in the Midwest, we expect the 17 year Cicadas to appear around Mid-May and
extend to mid June. They like young fruit trees for laying their eggs by
slitting the
bark. They can severly weaken a tree and leave it open for infection. Larger
trees may not be bothered by them. The solutions I have seen are mostly
recommending
covering the young trees with a fabric cloth or possibly using Surround. I
don't like
either of these two ideas, so if someone knows of a better solution, please let
me know.

Sherwin D.

sherwindu wrote:
Here in the Midwest, we expect the 17 year Cicadas to appear around Mid-May and
extend to mid June. They like young fruit trees for laying their eggs by
slitting the bark. They can severly weaken a tree and leave it open for infection. Larger
trees may not be bothered by them. The solutions I have seen are mostly
recommending covering the young trees with a fabric cloth or possibly using Surround. I
don't like either of these two ideas, so if someone knows of a better solution, please let
me know.

Sherwin D.


Here in the Ohio Valley we had our Cicada invasion back in 2004. For
young trees the solution of covering the trees with a light fabric cloth
is the best solution I found. Neighbors who did not cover their young
trees did have a lot more damage and it took several years for the trees
to recover (but no one that I know of lost a tree).

By the way, I do have some information on my web site,
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm along with three dozen
pictures of our 2004 invasion.
--
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Bill R wrote in
:

sherwindu wrote:
Here in the Midwest, we expect the 17 year Cicadas to appear around
Mid-May and extend to mid June. They like young fruit trees for
laying their eggs by slitting the bark. They can severly weaken a
tree and leave it open for infection. Larger trees may not be
bothered by them. The solutions I have seen are mostly recommending
covering the young trees with a fabric cloth or possibly using
Surround. I don't like either of these two ideas, so if someone
knows of a better solution, please let me know.

Sherwin D.


Here in the Ohio Valley we had our Cicada invasion back in 2004. For
young trees the solution of covering the trees with a light fabric
cloth is the best solution I found. Neighbors who did not cover their
young trees did have a lot more damage and it took several years for
the trees to recover (but no one that I know of lost a tree).

By the way, I do have some information on my web site,
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm along with three dozen
pictures of our 2004 invasion.

Why would the mid-west have a different cicada cycle? By the way, I'm
considered to be in the mid-west and we had it here in 2004, too, so I'm
really confused now.

Not sure why you think there was a Cicada invasion in the Midwest in 2004. I
did not see it here near Chicago. As far as I know, the most common cycles in
North America are 17 years for the Northern Cicadas and 13 year cycles for the
Sourthern Cicadas.

I'm still confused about whether the Cicadas crawl up the tree trunks to do
their
damage, or fly up to the branches for the same purpose. I think the Nymphs
crawl
out of their holes and up the trees to lay the eggs. Is that the source of the
tree
damage and if you prevent them from crawling up the trunk, would that stem the
damage?

Sherwin D.

FragileWarrior wrote:

Bill R wrote in
:

sherwindu wrote:
Here in the Midwest, we expect the 17 year Cicadas to appear around
Mid-May and extend to mid June. They like young fruit trees for
laying their eggs by slitting the bark. They can severly weaken a
tree and leave it open for infection. Larger trees may not be
bothered by them. The solutions I have seen are mostly recommending
covering the young trees with a fabric cloth or possibly using
Surround. I don't like either of these two ideas, so if someone
knows of a better solution, please let me know.

Sherwin D.


Here in the Ohio Valley we had our Cicada invasion back in 2004. For
young trees the solution of covering the trees with a light fabric
cloth is the best solution I found. Neighbors who did not cover their
young trees did have a lot more damage and it took several years for
the trees to recover (but no one that I know of lost a tree).

By the way, I do have some information on my web site,
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm along with three dozen
pictures of our 2004 invasion.

Why would the mid-west have a different cicada cycle? By the way, I'm
considered to be in the mid-west and we had it here in 2004, too, so I'm
really confused now.

sherwindu wrote in
:

Not sure why you think there was a Cicada invasion in the Midwest in
2004. I did not see it here near Chicago. As far as I know, the most
common cycles in North America are 17 years for the Northern Cicadas
and 13 year cycles for the Sourthern Cicadas.


I'm in central Indiana. The Cicada invasion in 2004 made headline news
across the country because both types of Cicadas cycled together and the
noise and *smell* were incredible. You couldn't take a step without
crunching one.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...9_cicadas.html

From IU in 2004. Next date for 17 year Cicada, 2021:
http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news/page/normal/1348.html

Cicada Watch 2004:
http://inside.msj.edu/academics/faculty/kritskg/cicada/
This site has a map that highlights the heaviest invasions. Chicago is on
the outer edge of the heaviest invasion.

They even made T-Shirts with Cicada pics on them to commemorate the
occasion:
http://www.cafepress.com/trendyteeshirts/634225

sherwindu wrote:
Not sure why you think there was a Cicada invasion in the Midwest in 2004. I
did not see it here near Chicago. As far as I know, the most common cycles in
North America are 17 years for the Northern Cicadas and 13 year cycles for the
Sourthern Cicadas.

I'm still confused about whether the Cicadas crawl up the tree trunks to do
their
damage, or fly up to the branches for the same purpose. I think the Nymphs
crawl
out of their holes and up the trees to lay the eggs. Is that the source of the
tree
damage and if you prevent them from crawling up the trunk, would that stem the
damage?

Sherwin D.

FragileWarrior wrote:


Bill R wrote in
:


sherwindu wrote:

Here in the Midwest, we expect the 17 year Cicadas to appear around
Mid-May and extend to mid June. They like young fruit trees for
laying their eggs by slitting the bark. They can severly weaken a
tree and leave it open for infection. Larger trees may not be
bothered by them. The solutions I have seen are mostly recommending
covering the young trees with a fabric cloth or possibly using
Surround. I don't like either of these two ideas, so if someone
knows of a better solution, please let me know.

Sherwin D.


Here in the Ohio Valley we had our Cicada invasion back in 2004. For
young trees the solution of covering the trees with a light fabric
cloth is the best solution I found. Neighbors who did not cover their
young trees did have a lot more damage and it took several years for
the trees to recover (but no one that I know of lost a tree).

By the way, I do have some information on my web site,
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm along with three dozen
pictures of our 2004 invasion.

Why would the mid-west have a different cicada cycle? By the way, I'm
considered to be in the mid-west and we had it here in 2004, too, so I'm
really confused now.




--
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sherwindu wrote:

Not sure why you think there was a Cicada invasion in the Midwest in 2004. I
did not see it here near Chicago. As far as I know, the most common cycles in
North America are 17 years for the Northern Cicadas and 13 year cycles for the
Sourthern Cicadas.

I'm still confused about whether the Cicadas crawl up the tree trunks to do
their
damage, or fly up to the branches for the same purpose. I think the Nymphs
crawl
out of their holes and up the trees to lay the eggs. Is that the source of the
tree
damage and if you prevent them from crawling up the trunk, would that stem the
damage?

Sherwin D.


There was a Cicada invasion in the midwest in 2004. My area (the Ohio
valley) is part of the midwest and we had a large invasion as my web
site shows: http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm

The midwest is a very big area and Cicadas invasions usually only cover
small parts of an area. They group that is about to hit your area is
called brood XIII and this site, http://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/ has
some information on it.

The damage to trees occurs after the females breed with the males and
then fly up to the tree branches to lay their eggs. The last two
pictures on this page, http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cpage6.htm shows
the female laying eggs and the damage done when she cuts slits in the
small tree branch to lay her eggs. The Nymphs coming out of the ground
cause no damage at all.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

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I'm in central Indiana. The Cicada invasion in 2004 made headline news
across the country because both types of Cicadas cycled together and the
noise and *smell* were incredible.

Where was I? :-)
I'm in northern Illinois, and I don't remember anything like that.
Did it miss us?

sherwindu wrote:

Not sure why you think there was a Cicada invasion in the Midwest in 2004. I
did not see it here near Chicago. As far as I know, the most common cycles in
North America are 17 years for the Northern Cicadas and 13 year cycles for the
Sourthern Cicadas.

I'm still confused about whether the Cicadas crawl up the tree trunks to do
their
damage, or fly up to the branches for the same purpose. I think the Nymphs
crawl
out of their holes and up the trees to lay the eggs. Is that the source of the
tree
damage and if you prevent them from crawling up the trunk, would that stem the
damage?

Sherwin D.


My area (the Ohio valley) is part of the midwest and we had a large
invasion in 2004 as my web site shows:
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm

The midwest is a very big area and Cicadas invasions usually only cover
small parts of an area. They group that is about to hit your area is
called brood XIII and this site, http://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/ has
some information on it.

The damage to trees occurs after the females breed with the males and
then fly up to the tree branches to lay their eggs. The last two
pictures on this page, http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cpage6.htm shows
the female laying eggs and the damage done when she cuts slits in the
small tree branch to lay her eggs. The Nymphs coming out of the ground
cause no damage at all.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

To see pictures from my garden visit http://members.iglou.com/brosen

Digital Camera - Pentax *ist DL

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sherwindu wrote:

Not sure why you think there was a Cicada invasion in the Midwest in 2004. I
did not see it here near Chicago. As far as I know, the most common cycles in
North America are 17 years for the Northern Cicadas and 13 year cycles for the
Sourthern Cicadas.

I'm still confused about whether the Cicadas crawl up the tree trunks to do
their
damage, or fly up to the branches for the same purpose. I think the Nymphs
crawl
out of their holes and up the trees to lay the eggs. Is that the source of the
tree
damage and if you prevent them from crawling up the trunk, would that stem the
damage?

Sherwin D.


My area (the Ohio valley) is part of the midwest and we had a large
invasion in 2004 as my web site shows:
http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cicada1.htm

The midwest is a very big area and Cicadas invasions usually only cover
small parts of an area. They group of Cicadas that is about to hit your
area is called brood XIII and this site,
http://www.cicadamania.com/cicadas/ has some information on it.

The damage to trees occurs after the females breed with the males and
then fly up to the tree branches to lay their eggs. The last two
pictures on this page, http://members.iglou.com/brosen/cpage6.htm shows
the female laying eggs and the damage done when she cuts slits in the
small tree branch to lay her eggs. The Nymphs coming out of the ground
cause no damage at all.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

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Digital Camera - Pentax *ist DL

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Sorry for all the multiple posts. The news server said the messages
weren't being posted so I kept re-trying.
--
Bill R. (Ohio Valley, U.S.A)

Gardening for over 40 years

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