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[email protected] 13-05-2007 05:16 AM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
For a part of a diy home project me and my mates need to burry a
length of standard garden hose underground permanently.
My question is will the hose biodegrade? if so.. is there a specific
type of hose that wouldnt biodegrade that i could use?


Thank you in advance


Travis M. 13-05-2007 07:33 AM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
For a part of a diy home project me and my mates need to burry a
length of standard garden hose underground permanently.
My question is will the hose biodegrade? if so.. is there a specific
type of hose that wouldnt biodegrade that i could use?



It is likely to deteriorate over time. Using PVC would be a better
solution IMHO.

--
Travis in Shoreline Washington


Jim Elbrecht 13-05-2007 01:08 PM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
On 12 May 2007 21:16:55 -0700, wrote:

For a part of a diy home project me and my mates need to burry a
length of standard garden hose underground permanently.
My question is will the hose biodegrade? if so.. is there a specific
type of hose that wouldnt biodegrade that i could use?


The garden hose might last 3-4 years depending on a lot of things.
[how good is the hose? how hot/cold does it get/ acidity of soil. . .
]

Use black plastic pipe. Should last at least 30 years- and it is
cheaper than hose. [or was last time I bought some]
Here's a link to a US supplier-
http://plumbing.hardwarestore.com/52...ater-line.aspx
Check a hardware store in your part of the world.

Jim

Dave 14-05-2007 05:56 AM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
wrote in message
oups.com...
For a part of a diy home project me and my mates need to burry a
length of standard garden hose underground permanently.
My question is will the hose biodegrade? if so.. is there a specific
type of hose that wouldnt biodegrade that i could use?


Thank you in advance


Standard garden hose is too soft. The weight of the soil will depress it to
the point of little or no flow.

2 options. Polyethylene hose, its black in color, will hold up. Other
option is #80 PVC piping. Standard PVC will not hold up more than a couple
of years, and, doesn't tolerate much weight, easier to break. You also have
to consider foot traffic, and other traffic that may at sometime be
traveling over the area in the future. Depth is also an issue for heavy
items like a truck driving over it.
Dave



z 15-05-2007 07:55 PM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
On May 14, 12:56 am, "Dave" wrote:
wrote in message

oups.com...

For a part of a diy home project me and my mates need to burry a
length of standard garden hose underground permanently.
My question is will the hose biodegrade? if so.. is there a specific
type of hose that wouldnt biodegrade that i could use?


Thank you in advance


Standard garden hose is too soft. The weight of the soil will depress it to
the point of little or no flow.

2 options. Polyethylene hose, its black in color, will hold up. Other
option is #80 PVC piping. Standard PVC will not hold up more than a couple
of years, and, doesn't tolerate much weight, easier to break. You also have
to consider foot traffic, and other traffic that may at sometime be
traveling over the area in the future. Depth is also an issue for heavy
items like a truck driving over it.
Dave


Also might need to worry about freeze/thaw cycles, especially if it's
full of water in the winter.


readandpostrosie 26-05-2007 11:42 PM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
.............. Standard PVC will not hold up more than a couple of years,
and, doesn't tolerate much weight, easier to break.


not to mention the damage to PVC from freezing temperatures. (yes, even
buried)
:)



John Bachman 27-05-2007 01:46 PM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:42:13 -0500, "readandpostrosie"
wrote:

.............. Standard PVC will not hold up more than a couple of years,
and, doesn't tolerate much weight, easier to break.


not to mention the damage to PVC from freezing temperatures. (yes, even
buried)
:)


I have a buried 1" PVC water line that runs from the house to my
mini-farm about 1000' away with another 500' running around the garden
area. I live in NH and have had no trouble with the line even though
I drive over it constantly with my Kubota tractor and occassionally my
pickup truck.

The line is 6" to 18" below the surface. I drain the system every
fall blowing it out with a compressor attachment.

So the claims that it will not hold up and will be damaged by freezing
temperatures do not seem valid if one takes appropriate cautions.

John

readandpostrosie 27-05-2007 06:22 PM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
i believe you are lucky! we won't try that here in wisconsin.

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"John Bachman" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:42:13 -0500, "readandpostrosie"
wrote:

.............. Standard PVC will not hold up more than a couple of
years,
and, doesn't tolerate much weight, easier to break.


not to mention the damage to PVC from freezing temperatures. (yes, even
buried)
:)


I have a buried 1" PVC water line that runs from the house to my
mini-farm about 1000' away with another 500' running around the garden
area. I live in NH and have had no trouble with the line even though
I drive over it constantly with my Kubota tractor and occassionally my
pickup truck.

The line is 6" to 18" below the surface. I drain the system every
fall blowing it out with a compressor attachment.

So the claims that it will not hold up and will be damaged by freezing
temperatures do not seem valid if one takes appropriate cautions.

John




Phisherman[_1_] 28-05-2007 02:53 AM

Buried Underground Hose Question
 
On Sun, 27 May 2007 08:46:39 -0400, John Bachman
wrote:

On Sat, 26 May 2007 17:42:13 -0500, "readandpostrosie"
wrote:

.............. Standard PVC will not hold up more than a couple of years,
and, doesn't tolerate much weight, easier to break.


not to mention the damage to PVC from freezing temperatures. (yes, even
buried)
:)


I have a buried 1" PVC water line that runs from the house to my
mini-farm about 1000' away with another 500' running around the garden
area. I live in NH and have had no trouble with the line even though
I drive over it constantly with my Kubota tractor and occassionally my
pickup truck.

The line is 6" to 18" below the surface. I drain the system every
fall blowing it out with a compressor attachment.

So the claims that it will not hold up and will be damaged by freezing
temperatures do not seem valid if one takes appropriate cautions.

John



My buried 3" PVC pipe carries the overflow from my spring-fed pond to
a nearby stream. Water has ran through it continuously (~1.5 gal/min)
since 1992 without any issues except for an occasional algae clog. The
pipe is buried about 1 foot deep in the ground.


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