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Paul E. Lehmann[_2_] 19-06-2007 02:25 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
Are deer attracted or repelled by elderberry
bushes? If they eat them, do they eat the
leaves, berries or both?

Jan Flora 19-06-2007 08:10 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article ,
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote:

Are deer attracted or repelled by elderberry
bushes? If they eat them, do they eat the
leaves, berries or both?


Deer will eat the woody growth during the winter, if
they can't find anything else to eat.

But in general, deer would rather eat your roses...

Jan

Lilah Morgan 19-06-2007 08:59 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
"Jan Flora" wrote in message
...

But in general, deer would rather eat your roses...

Jan


Deer do eat roses? So it WAS them who ate my only rose...well the plant is
still alive, but they ate most of the stem with the big huge bud on it...I
had it 'fenced' to protect it from the chickens/geese/bunnies, and it was
doing so good, then I noticed that it was gone, and I look, and the stem was
chewed down to only a couple inches left of it...I was so upset...it was
only a couple days away from blooming...couldn't think what could have eaten
it, it being all thorny and hard and such...



Sheldon[_1_] 19-06-2007 03:55 PM

Elderberries and Deer
 
On Jun 19, 3:10?am, Jan Flora wrote:
In article ,
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote:

Are deer attracted or repelled by elderberry
bushes? If they eat them, do they eat the
leaves, berries or both?


Deer will eat the woody growth during the winter, if
they can't find anything else to eat.

But in general, deer would rather eat your roses...


In general deer will eat everything. I have all my young trees
fenced. All my shrubs are fenced (I learned the hard/expensive way,
munched all my newly planted shubs down to nubs). Even plants that
are highly touted to be deer resistant, like forsythia, daffodils,
barberry, etc., are not so deer resistant it seems. Squirrels love
daffodil bulbs too, the first winter they dug up most every one of the
500 I planted that fall, munched em right in front of me... I won't be
planting those any more. So far the only thing I've planted out in
the open that hasn't been eaten (yet) are some giant ferns I put in to
hide my propane tank.


William Wagner 19-06-2007 04:52 PM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article . com,
Sheldon wrote:

On Jun 19, 3:10?am, Jan Flora wrote:
In article ,
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote:

Are deer attracted or repelled by elderberry
bushes? If they eat them, do they eat the
leaves, berries or both?


Deer will eat the woody growth during the winter, if
they can't find anything else to eat.

But in general, deer would rather eat your roses...


In general deer will eat everything. I have all my young trees
fenced. All my shrubs are fenced (I learned the hard/expensive way,
munched all my newly planted shubs down to nubs). Even plants that
are highly touted to be deer resistant, like forsythia, daffodils,
barberry, etc., are not so deer resistant it seems. Squirrels love
daffodil bulbs too, the first winter they dug up most every one of the
500 I planted that fall, munched em right in front of me... I won't be
planting those any more. So far the only thing I've planted out in
the open that hasn't been eaten (yet) are some giant ferns I put in to
hide my propane tank.


Just wondering were the bulbs planted in a straight line vs naturalized?

Bill

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Sheldon[_1_] 19-06-2007 11:29 PM

Elderberries and Deer
 
On Jun 19, 11:52?am, William Wagner
wrote:
In article . com,





Sheldon wrote:
On Jun 19, 3:10?am, Jan Flora wrote:
In article ,
"Paul E. Lehmann" wrote:


Are deer attracted or repelled by elderberry
bushes? If they eat them, do they eat the
leaves, berries or both?


Deer will eat the woody growth during the winter, if
they can't find anything else to eat.


But in general, deer would rather eat your roses...


In general deer will eat everything. I have all my young trees
fenced. All my shrubs are fenced (I learned the hard/expensive way,
munched all my newly planted shubs down to nubs). Even plants that
are highly touted to be deer resistant, like forsythia, daffodils,
barberry, etc., are not so deer resistant it seems. Squirrels love
daffodil bulbs too, the first winter they dug up most every one of the
500 I planted that fall, munched em right in front of me... I won't be
planting those any more. So far the only thing I've planted out in
the open that hasn't been eaten (yet) are some giant ferns I put in to
hide my propane tank.


Just wondering were the bulbs planted in a straight line vs naturalized?


Hehe, no, I didn't check if those bulb snatchers were straight or gay.

I suppose my bulbs were naturalized, planted with a 2" auger from
Leevalley.com and my trusty cordless drill. That thing can dig
hundreds of perfect bulb holes effortlessly in practically no time. I
got one good bloom and the next spring practically nothing.

The ones by my little creek are still there but the squirrels ate
those under the trees.

http://i10.tinypic.com/4mtwbbk.jpg

http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg

http://i18.tinypic.com/52ptfzb.jpg

http://i15.tinypic.com/62e4ad4.jpg

http://i9.tinypic.com/4ot3b6u.jpg

http://i13.tinypic.com/4mt6avb.jpg



William Wagner 19-06-2007 11:43 PM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article . com,
Sheldon wrote:

Wonderful stream !!!

Bill

--

S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
http://www.ocutech.com/ High tech Vison aid
This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit.

Amos Nomore 19-06-2007 11:45 PM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article . com,
Sheldon wrote:

http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?

Sheldon[_1_] 20-06-2007 01:39 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?


Yes, Calvatia propanetankus gigantea.


Amos Nomore 20-06-2007 01:51 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article .com,
Sheldon wrote:

Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:

http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?


Yes, Calvatia propanetankus gigantea.


Wow. Hope nobody tries to cook it. I wondered if they'd evolved little
foot brackets. And stuff.

Sheldon[_1_] 20-06-2007 01:53 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
On Jun 19, 6:43?pm, William Wagner
wrote:
In article . com,

Sheldon wrote:

Wonderful stream !!!


Most times it's nice, but during periods of heavy rain the water rises
to the very tippy top and looks ready for white water rafting... twice
now in early spring before all the snow is melted I've seen it
overflow it's banks. This spring the water ras running exceptionally
strong and I lost more than two feet on the south bank, especially
where the orangeberg pipe from my French drain empties out... that
pipe was pretty well hidden, now I need to have that entire area
filled with large rocks, soon as there's a dry spell this summer so
the heavy equipment can roll up without sinking in... I lost a lot of
bulbs and other perennials too.

http://i17.tinypic.com/6bw1c9v.jpg


Sheldon[_1_] 20-06-2007 02:19 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
On Jun 19, 8:51?pm, Amos Nomore wrote:
In article .com,

Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:


http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?


Yes, Calvatia propanetankus gigantea.


Wow. Hope nobody tries to cook it. I wondered if they'd evolved little
foot brackets. And stuff.


So far no one is cooking... I have a tenent living in that tree but so
far that family has not eaten any:
http://i14.tinypic.com/52ohen5.jpg

Now I can't vouch for this ruffiian:
http://i11.tinypic.com/4qicc4w.jpg

Got greens growing:
http://i13.tinypic.com/4zvdwza.jpg

And growing:
http://i14.tinypic.com/6fh4vus.jpg

These ladies can't be trusted with greens:
http://i14.tinypic.com/507vnzm.jpg




Sheldon[_1_] 20-06-2007 03:09 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:


http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?


Yes, Calvatia propanetankus gigantea.


Wow. Hope nobody tries to cook it. I wondered if they'd evolved little
foot brackets. And stuff.


So far no one is cooking... I have a tenent living in that tree but so
far that family has not eaten any:http://i14.tinypic.com/52ohen5.jpg

Now I can't vouch for this ruffiian:http://i11.tinypic.com/4qicc4w.jpg

Got greens growing:http://i13.tinypic.com/4zvdwza.jpg

And growing:http://i14.tinypic.com/6fh4vus.jpg

These ladies can't be trusted with greens:
http://i14.tinypic.com/507vnzm.jpg


Big lightening and thunder storm here so having trouble with my
connection... just wanted to add a word about if you look real
carefully in the field behind those deer there are some wild turkeys
that I didn't notice until I downloaded that picture... snapped nigh
on 1500 from my rear deck, so pic is a bit rough.



Amos Nomore 20-06-2007 03:15 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article .com,
Sheldon wrote:

Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:


http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?


Yes, Calvatia propanetankus gigantea.


Wow. Hope nobody tries to cook it. I wondered if they'd evolved little
foot brackets. And stuff.


So far no one is cooking... I have a tenent living in that tree but so
far that family has not eaten any:http://i14.tinypic.com/52ohen5.jpg

Now I can't vouch for this ruffiian:http://i11.tinypic.com/4qicc4w.jpg

Got greens growing:http://i13.tinypic.com/4zvdwza.jpg

And growing:http://i14.tinypic.com/6fh4vus.jpg

These ladies can't be trusted with greens:
http://i14.tinypic.com/507vnzm.jpg


Big lightening and thunder storm here so having trouble with my
connection... just wanted to add a word about if you look real
carefully in the field behind those deer there are some wild turkeys
that I didn't notice until I downloaded that picture... snapped nigh
on 1500 from my rear deck, so pic is a bit rough.


Big gobblers, good eye. Your environment is so alive! Thanks for all
the cool pictures.

Billy Rose 20-06-2007 05:52 AM

Elderberries and Deer
 
In article .com,
Sheldon wrote:

Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:
Amos Nomore wrote:
Sheldon wrote:


http://i10.tinypic.com/4zdbqmr.jpg


Is that a giant puffball behind the tree?


Yes, Calvatia propanetankus gigantea.


Wow. Hope nobody tries to cook it. I wondered if they'd evolved little
foot brackets. And stuff.


So far no one is cooking... I have a tenent living in that tree but so
far that family has not eaten any:http://i14.tinypic.com/52ohen5.jpg

Now I can't vouch for this ruffiian:http://i11.tinypic.com/4qicc4w.jpg

Got greens growing:http://i13.tinypic.com/4zvdwza.jpg

And growing:http://i14.tinypic.com/6fh4vus.jpg

These ladies can't be trusted with greens:
http://i14.tinypic.com/507vnzm.jpg


Big lightening and thunder storm here so having trouble with my
connection... just wanted to add a word about if you look real
carefully in the field behind those deer there are some wild turkeys
that I didn't notice until I downloaded that picture... snapped nigh
on 1500 from my rear deck, so pic is a bit rough.


You almost seem normal Sheldon but yet you can't tell us why
JoeSparebedroom was so wrong. What twisted sickness do you have?
--
Billy
Coloribus gustibus non disputatum (mostly)


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