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Persephone 15-09-2007 01:00 AM

Tomato wilt
 

This is the first year I have lost tomato plants to what
looks like Fusarium - Tomato Wilt. Some of the smaller plants
struggled and died, but about 1/5 of thetotal planting survived,
though even they are not exactly bearing up a storm. Only a few
cherry and grape tomatoes survived; the grape tomato fruit is
especially delicious.

I went to this Web site:

http://www.uvm.edu/extension/publica...sease/gd18.htm

which says the fungi survive in the soil INDEFINITELY!

Terrifying!

1. How can I get rid of them? Have to scrape away all soil?
How deep?

2. Is it worth taking a chance planting the varieties that the Web
site says are more resistant?

Better Boy Heinz 1350
Beefsteak Roma VF
Big Girl Rutgers
Campbell Springset
Floramerica Supersonic

Note that I planted several of the above, and labeled them carefully,
but now I can't tell what survived!

2. What other vegs can I plant in that area that won't be affected by
the Fusarium wilt? Onions? Beans? What????

TIA

Persephone
(who feels like a traitor buying outside tomatoes!)





JoeSpareBedroom 15-09-2007 01:07 AM

Tomato wilt
 
Persephone wrote in message
...

This is the first year I have lost tomato plants to what
looks like Fusarium - Tomato Wilt. Some of the smaller plants
struggled and died, but about 1/5 of thetotal planting survived,
though even they are not exactly bearing up a storm. Only a few
cherry and grape tomatoes survived; the grape tomato fruit is
especially delicious.

I went to this Web site:

http://www.uvm.edu/extension/publica...sease/gd18.htm

which says the fungi survive in the soil INDEFINITELY!

Terrifying!

1. How can I get rid of them? Have to scrape away all soil?
How deep?


Plant the tomatoes in a different spot each year. Don't even think about
trying to remove the soil. That would be nuts.



2. Is it worth taking a chance planting the varieties that the Web
site says are more resistant?


Yes, but I've found Rutgers was not as resistant as claimed. Better Boy is a
great choice. I've got Brandywine this year, which in theory should NOT be
resistant, but it's doing fine.



2. What other vegs can I plant in that area that won't be affected by
the Fusarium wilt? Onions? Beans? What????


Too many to list. A google search will help.



Joseph S. Larson 15-09-2007 03:40 PM

Tomato wilt
 
Sorry about your wilt problem - I have it too. As Joe says, plant resistant
varieties. Look in the catalog at the tomato listings: all those with VF
after the names are the ones you should choose. The VF indicates resistance
(not necessarily immunity) to Verticillium and Fusarium wilts. Don"t put
the vines on your compost heap. The authorities say to bury them (Where??)
or throw them in the trash. Be sure to mulch the plants with hay or other
good stuff like chopped leaves, after the soil is well warmed up, to
prevent spores splashing up from the soil. Rotating them around the garden
is necessary, as for all crops. I have a three-year rotation, because I
have 3 plots, and only plant resistant varieties. Favorite one is Jetstar.
Good luck! Wendy














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Persephone wrote in message
...

This is the first year I have lost tomato plants to what
looks like Fusarium - Tomato Wilt. Some of the smaller plants
struggled and died, but about 1/5 of thetotal planting survived,
though even they are not exactly bearing up a storm. Only a few
cherry and grape tomatoes survived; the grape tomato fruit is
especially delicious.

I went to this Web site:

http://www.uvm.edu/extension/publica...sease/gd18.htm

which says the fungi survive in the soil INDEFINITELY!

Terrifying!

1. How can I get rid of them? Have to scrape away all soil?
How deep?

2. Is it worth taking a chance planting the varieties that the Web
site says are more resistant?

Better Boy Heinz 1350
Beefsteak Roma VF
Big Girl Rutgers
Campbell Springset
Floramerica Supersonic

Note that I planted several of the above, and labeled them carefully,
but now I can't tell what survived!

2. What other vegs can I plant in that area that won't be affected by
the Fusarium wilt? Onions? Beans? What????

TIA

Persephone
(who feels like a traitor buying outside tomatoes!)







JoeSpareBedroom 15-09-2007 04:02 PM

Tomato wilt
 
"Joseph S. Larson" wrote in message
. ..
Sorry about your wilt problem - I have it too. As Joe says, plant
resistant varieties. Look in the catalog at the tomato listings: all
those with VF after the names are the ones you should choose. The VF
indicates resistance (not necessarily immunity) to Verticillium and
Fusarium wilts. Don"t put the vines on your compost heap. The
authorities say to bury them (Where??) or throw them in the trash. Be
sure to mulch the plants with hay or other good stuff like chopped leaves,
after the soil is well warmed up, to prevent spores splashing up from the
soil. Rotating them around the garden is necessary, as for all crops. I
have a three-year rotation, because I have 3 plots, and only plant
resistant varieties. Favorite one is Jetstar. Good luck! Wendy



How's the taste with Jetstar? Does it have enough acidity to still taste
like a tomato, instead of candy, like some hybrids?



enigma 15-09-2007 05:09 PM

Tomato wilt
 
"JoeSpareBedroom" wrote in
:

How's the taste with Jetstar? Does it have enough acidity
to still taste like a tomato, instead of candy, like some
hybrids?


i find Jetstar grown in my garden/climate is pretty watery &
bland. it grows really well, but it's not very tasty so i
don't plant it anymore.

lee
--
"the Government of the United States is not, in any sense,
founded on the
Christian religion."
John Adams, the Treaty of Tripoli, Clause 11

Persephone 15-09-2007 05:51 PM

Tomato wilt
 
On Sat, 15 Sep 2007 10:40:34 -0400, "Joseph S. Larson"
wrote:

Sorry about your wilt problem - I have it too. As Joe says, plant resistant
varieties. Look in the catalog at the tomato listings: all those with VF
after the names are the ones you should choose. The VF indicates resistance
(not necessarily immunity) to Verticillium and Fusarium wilts. Don"t put
the vines on your compost heap. The authorities say to bury them (Where??)
or throw them in the trash.


Urggghhh! Thanks for the heads-up. I don't think I've been putting
them in the compost heap, but will certainly NOT do it now; will put
out in trash (yard waste). Hope it does not spread the evil to
whatever the City does with yard waste!

Be sure to mulch the plants with hay or other good stuff like
chopped leaves, after the soil is well warmed up, to
prevent spores splashing up from the soil

Urgggh again! What a ghastly image!

In this area, soil doesn't cool off/freeze as in some other areas.
We plant all year round; time to start putting in "winter crops" like
snow peas, spinach, bok choy,etc. (these I put in a different area).

In the wilt-affected area, I ventured to plant green onions, so am
afraid to mulch before the little guys stick up their heads so I can
avoid them..

Rotating them around the garden
is necessary, as for all crops. I have a three-year rotation, because I
have 3 plots, and only plant resistant varieties. Favorite one is Jetstar.
Good luck! Wendy


Tx a bunch, Wendy for all the great info.

I feel like a dumb-dumb re-planting tomatoes in the same area.
Perhaps I let my guard down because have NEVER had Tomato Wilt before.
Now a believer!

Persephone




JoeSpareBedroom 15-09-2007 05:57 PM

Tomato wilt
 
Persephone wrote in message
...


I feel like a dumb-dumb re-planting tomatoes in the same area.
Perhaps I let my guard down because have NEVER had Tomato Wilt before.
Now a believer!

Persephone



To confuse matters further, some years are worse than others for plant
diseases. Next year, you might have problems at all, you'll attribute it to
moving the plants, and the year after, everything gets hammered. It's part
of the adventure, and often a major frustration.



Kay Lancaster 15-09-2007 10:42 PM

Tomato wilt
 
1) plant resistant varieties elsewhere next year
2) solarize
3) dig in plenty of well cured compost

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/en...trieve&db=PubM
ed&list_uids=15913017&dopt=AbstractPlus

http://plantpath.osu.edu/faculty-and...tink-harry-a-j

http://www.ipm.ucdavis.edu/PMG/GARDE...arization.html

http://vric.ucdavis.edu/veginfo/ topics/soils/soilsolarization.pdf



Jim 16-09-2007 12:09 AM

Tomato wilt
 
JoeSpareBedroom wrote:

Joseph S. Larson wrote:
Sorry about your wilt problem - I have it too. As Joe says, plant
resistant varieties. Look in the catalog at the tomato listings:

[....]

How's the taste with Jetstar? Does it have enough acidity to still taste
like a tomato, instead of candy, like some hybrids?


for real big tomato taste try these
http://personalpages.bellsouth.net/t...er/tomato.html


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