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I have a Norfolk Island Pine Tree in a lagre Pot. I live in New
England so I need to keep the tree in the house during winter. I have
had this for 30 years. My wife gave it to me when we were dating. A
lot of sentimental value. Anyway, it is getting too tall to handle .
It is about 4 ft tall. If I clip the top, will that prevent it from
getting taller? I don't want to kill the tree. Should I contact a tree
specialist?
M

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mstrspy wrote:
I have a Norfolk Island Pine Tree in a lagre Pot. I live in New
England so I need to keep the tree in the house during winter. I have
had this for 30 years. My wife gave it to me when we were dating. A
lot of sentimental value. Anyway, it is getting too tall to handle .
It is about 4 ft tall. If I clip the top, will that prevent it from
getting taller? I don't want to kill the tree. Should I contact a tree
specialist?
M

I topped ours a couple of years ago. Wish I had done it sooner. Not
the most attractive house plant with about 4 feet of bare trunk and 2
feet of branched top but it is thriving.

Frank
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Did the tree start loosing branches after you topped it?


On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:17:09 -0400, Frank
frankdotlogullo@comcastperiodnet wrote:

mstrspy wrote:
I have a Norfolk Island Pine Tree in a lagre Pot. I live in New
England so I need to keep the tree in the house during winter. I have
had this for 30 years. My wife gave it to me when we were dating. A
lot of sentimental value. Anyway, it is getting too tall to handle .
It is about 4 ft tall. If I clip the top, will that prevent it from
getting taller? I don't want to kill the tree. Should I contact a tree
specialist?
M

I topped ours a couple of years ago. Wish I had done it sooner. Not
the most attractive house plant with about 4 feet of bare trunk and 2
feet of branched top but it is thriving.

Frank


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Did the tree start loosing branches after you topped it?



They usually respond by sending out two leaders- it's not the most
attractive growth pattern...


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mstrspy wrote:
Did the tree start loosing branches after you topped it?


I posted its picture in alt.binaries.pictures.gardens

Frank


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Frank: Thanks for posting your picture. My tree isn't particularly
sparse, I just don't want to kiil the tree by topping it. Do I just
cut off the top without doing anything else?

Also, if I top it and it looses branches, eventually it will be bare
won't it? Or will all the new growth come off the sides. As you can
probably tell from my questions, I'm not exactly an expert.

Thanks Again for your help.

M



On Sun, 28 Oct 2007 12:43:55 -0400, Frank
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mstrspy wrote:
Did the tree start loosing branches after you topped it?


I posted its picture in alt.binaries.pictures.gardens

Frank


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pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html
hiring someone with an understanding of tree biology would be my
recommendation.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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I have a Norfolk Island Pine Tree in a lagre Pot. I live in New
England so I need to keep the tree in the house during winter. I have
had this for 30 years. My wife gave it to me when we were dating. A
lot of sentimental value. Anyway, it is getting too tall to handle .
It is about 4 ft tall. If I clip the top, will that prevent it from
getting taller? I don't want to kill the tree. Should I contact a tree
specialist?
M



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"symplastless" wrote in message
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pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html
hiring someone with an understanding of tree biology would be my
recommendation.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.


Is there any chance that you could actually offer something to the OP instead
of providing pre-perpared generic advice or suggesting they get a consultant
to advise them on this simple question. People ask these questions because
they want to do the right thing and to develop their own knowledge. You seem
to be more interested in drumming up business for your collegues.

In some cases the job is too big for the amateur or too complex to deal with
remotely. Now tell me why this case is like that. The choice is cut the top
or don't. Do you have an opinion or would you need to withdraw, convene and
consult? Or does your mouth not open until the wallet does.

David


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mstrspy wrote:
Frank: Thanks for posting your picture. My tree isn't particularly
sparse, I just don't want to kiil the tree by topping it. Do I just
cut off the top without doing anything else?

Also, if I top it and it looses branches, eventually it will be bare
won't it? Or will all the new growth come off the sides. As you can
probably tell from my questions, I'm not exactly an expert.

Thanks Again for your help.

M


All I did was cut off the top. Most of the new growth is there and as
you can see dead bottom branches were cut off leaving the tree shown in
the picture. I'm no expert either but it was either to top or let it
hit the ceiling. I just cut it and let it go. It survived. From a little
googling, I suspect you will get the same result:
http://www.briansgarden.com/2003/02/...-too-tall.html

I also refused to give it a larger pot and have done the same for a
ficus and a gardenia. Plants continue to thrive but if I had my
druthers, I'd ditch the pine but it's my wife's.

Frank
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It helps.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html
hiring someone with an understanding of tree biology would be my
recommendation.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.


Is there any chance that you could actually offer something to the OP
instead
of providing pre-perpared generic advice or suggesting they get a
consultant
to advise them on this simple question. People ask these questions
because
they want to do the right thing and to develop their own knowledge. You
seem
to be more interested in drumming up business for your collegues.

In some cases the job is too big for the amateur or too complex to deal
with
remotely. Now tell me why this case is like that. The choice is cut the
top
or don't. Do you have an opinion or would you need to withdraw, convene
and
consult? Or does your mouth not open until the wallet does.

David






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[proper quoting restored]

symplastless said:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html
hiring someone with an understanding of tree biology would be my
recommendation.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.


Is there any chance that you could actually offer something to the OP
instead
of providing pre-perpared generic advice or suggesting they get a
consultant
to advise them on this simple question. People ask these questions
because
they want to do the right thing and to develop their own knowledge. You
seem
to be more interested in drumming up business for your collegues.

In some cases the job is too big for the amateur or too complex to deal
with
remotely. Now tell me why this case is like that. The choice is cut the
top
or don't. Do you have an opinion or would you need to withdraw, convene
and
consult? Or does your mouth not open until the wallet does.


It helps.


So, now we're getting to the bottom of this. You admit that you're only
here to spam your site. You offer no help (at all) to the poster(s), since
they aren't paying you to do so.

If you're going to continue posting to The USENET, learn how to format your
posts properly (hint: the quoted material doesn't go in your sig). Though,
it's probably in the best interests of everyone if you simply cease to
post.

--

Eggs

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mstrspy said:

I have a Norfolk Island Pine Tree in a lagre Pot. I live in New
England so I need to keep the tree in the house during winter. I have
had this for 30 years. My wife gave it to me when we were dating. A
lot of sentimental value. Anyway, it is getting too tall to handle .
It is about 4 ft tall. If I clip the top, will that prevent it from
getting taller? I don't want to kill the tree. Should I contact a tree
specialist?
M


It won't 'keep it from getting taller', it will simply make it shorter
(temporarily). It will still grow, and need occasional pruning, if you want
to keep it at 4'. I just brought mine in, for the winter. I have an 8'
ceiling, and in order to make it fit, 18" came off the top of the tree. It
looks fine, and will *be* fine.

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You can inform people about usenet and I will inform people about trees. I
will ignore any future post which are not related to trees and their
associates.
It sounds like you think I get money from www.treedictionary.com I do not
get paid.
Back to trees. Anyone interested in learning and understanding tree
treatments should check this information out.
www.shigoandtrees.com

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message
...
[proper quoting restored]

symplastless said:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html
hiring someone with an understanding of tree biology would be my
recommendation.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.

Is there any chance that you could actually offer something to the OP
instead
of providing pre-perpared generic advice or suggesting they get a
consultant
to advise them on this simple question. People ask these questions
because
they want to do the right thing and to develop their own knowledge. You
seem
to be more interested in drumming up business for your collegues.

In some cases the job is too big for the amateur or too complex to deal
with
remotely. Now tell me why this case is like that. The choice is cut
the
top
or don't. Do you have an opinion or would you need to withdraw, convene
and
consult? Or does your mouth not open until the wallet does.


It helps.


So, now we're getting to the bottom of this. You admit that you're only
here to spam your site. You offer no help (at all) to the poster(s), since
they aren't paying you to do so.

If you're going to continue posting to The USENET, learn how to format
your
posts properly (hint: the quoted material doesn't go in your sig). Though,
it's probably in the best interests of everyone if you simply cease to
post.

--

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Now that's really addressing peoples questions regarding their trees!!! If
you do not aggree or understand, it a shame. It's perfectly fine to share
these links with people who have questions about the health of their trees
Just because you have all the answers does not mean everyone does. I get
enough compliments.

Many tree problems are associated with the following: They are Case
Sensitive.

Troubles in the Rhizosphere
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html

Unhealthy Trees from the Nursery / Improper Planting
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/sub1.html
and
Look up "Tree Planting" http://www.treedictionary.com

Improper Mulching - http://home.ccil.org/~treeman/sub3.html
and
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/M/ Look up "Mulch"

Improper Pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/tree_pruning

Improper Fertilization (See A Touch of Chemistry)
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/CHEM.html

Tree Farming and Related Problems
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/SOUND/

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
You can inform people about usenet and I will inform people about trees.
I will ignore any future post which are not related to trees and their
associates.
It sounds like you think I get money from www.treedictionary.com I do not
get paid.
Back to trees. Anyone interested in learning and understanding tree
treatments should check this information out.
www.shigoandtrees.com

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding
us that we are not the boss.

"Eggs Zachtly" wrote in message
...
[proper quoting restored]

symplastless said:

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
pruning
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...ing/index.html
hiring someone with an understanding of tree biology would be my
recommendation.

Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.

Is there any chance that you could actually offer something to the OP
instead
of providing pre-perpared generic advice or suggesting they get a
consultant
to advise them on this simple question. People ask these questions
because
they want to do the right thing and to develop their own knowledge. You
seem
to be more interested in drumming up business for your collegues.

In some cases the job is too big for the amateur or too complex to deal
with
remotely. Now tell me why this case is like that. The choice is cut
the
top
or don't. Do you have an opinion or would you need to withdraw,
convene
and
consult? Or does your mouth not open until the wallet does.

It helps.


So, now we're getting to the bottom of this. You admit that you're only
here to spam your site. You offer no help (at all) to the poster(s),
since
they aren't paying you to do so.

If you're going to continue posting to The USENET, learn how to format
your
posts properly (hint: the quoted material doesn't go in your sig).
Though,
it's probably in the best interests of everyone if you simply cease to
post.

--

Eggs

Do cemetery workers prefer the graveyard shift?





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"mstrspy" wrote in message
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Frank: Thanks for posting your picture. My tree isn't particularly
sparse, I just don't want to kiil the tree by topping it. Do I just
cut off the top without doing anything else?

Also, if I top it and it looses branches, eventually it will be bare
won't it? Or will all the new growth come off the sides. .

Hi,
Norfolk Island Pine (Araucaria heterophylla) can be air layered using the
terminal. I've heard, not tried, that the branches can be layered also but
yield unsymmetrical plants.
HTH -_- how
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