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http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactS.../barksplit.htm

Patrick

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

Thanks for posting, however, not a very good article.

The only problem is the wounds they are showing are the result of a wound
from an ijury and not the sun.
They also fail to tell you that when you wrap the trunk it tree wrap it
reduces photosynthesis and the production of food for the plant. Wrapping a
trunk when moving a tree is a great idea but tree wrapping young trees
reduces food.


Tree Wrap http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/tree_wrap.html

"Tracing the bark around the split can be very helpful in aiding wound
healing" The problem with this statement is that tree wounds do not
heal!!!! That is like saying I photosynthesis. Silly for sure.

"70% alcohol" Not a good idea at all. It lubricates the pathogens.

No mention of treating the soil with mulch? Especially when most problems,
other than improper planting, are a result of Troubles in the Rhizosphere.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/shigo/RHIZO.html
Read about it here..

A great book that addresses that and much more is MODERN ARBORICULTURE by
SHIGO:
http://www.shigoandtrees.com/Books/t...%2cProductName

Right now the book is sold out until FEB. You could probably get a copy at
the library. I would lend you one of my copies if you lived near me. Its a
BIBLE for trees.
IT COVERS TREE WRAP, PLANTING, BASIC PRUNING, FERTILIZING, WATERING, ROOTS,
MYCORRHIZAE, MULCH, MAINTENANCE, DISEASE, INJURY, AND SO ON. MORE
INFORMATION THAT THE HOME OWNER WILL EVER REQUIRE.

Simple messages from 100 Tree Myths
1. Do not wrap trees. pg6
2. It is a near Myth (L) TRUNK WRAP PREVENTS COLD AND HEAT INJURY. False

There are no data to support this claim. A green photosynthetic tissue
envelopes the entire trunk under the thin bark of most young trees. Wraps
prevent the tissues from trapping the sun's energy. Wraps over wounds and
flush cut branches make conditions perfect for infection by pathogens and
infestation by insects. Wraps maybe of value to protect trunks during
shipment. Wire or metal wraps are of value where rodents or larger animals
pose a problem. Check them often to be sure they do not girdle the trunk.


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.


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http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactS.../barksplit.htm

Patrick

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

Tree Wrap 2

TREE WRAP

Tree wrap, like wound dressings and flush cuts will take some time to go
away. Young trees have a cortex under their epidermis. The cortex is a
soft tissue with living cells that have chlorophyll. Young trees require
all the energy they can get. Covering the cortex of a young tree reduces a
source of the energy for the tree. Many people believe the wraps prevent
sun or frost injury. Results of our studies showed no difference between
wrapped and unwrapped trees. Trees may require wire mesh or other strong
materials to prevent rodent injury. This is fine. Tree wrap does hide
wounds, flush cuts, cankers, and other defects. We know of no experiments
with controls to show that tree wrap prevents sun and cold injury. I do
know that wounds, flush cuts, dead spots from included bark, injured roots,
and planting too deep will start trunk cracks and death of bark.
--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

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http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactS.../barksplit.htm

Patrick

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

More points on tree wrap.

Trunk wrap on young trees prevents the green cortex from photosynthesizing.

There are no data to show that trunk wraps prevent "frost" cracks or sun
scald.

As trees grow older, the torture continues as they are not only braced in
ways that prevent swaying but wrapped with various materials. The materials
prevent photosynthesis in the young green cortex. There are no data to show
that wrapping prevents problems.

If you think the last treatment was a crime, consider this one where several
men spent several days wrapping this dying beech. It was dying because
shallow roots were killed in attempts to establish a new lawn. See the
picture of the beech he
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...runk_wrap.html

Why trees are wrapped with burlap and cloth and other products is a mystery
to me. Studies show that these materials do little except hide wounds,
cankers, and cracks that were on the tree when it left the nursery. The
coverings also make excellent homes for insects. Never accept a tree that
is wrapped! You never know what is under the wrapping.



For much more on this treatment as well as others see A NEW TREE BIOLOGY

http://www.shigoandtrees.com/Books/t...%2cProductName




--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.



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http://plantclinic.cornell.edu/FactS.../barksplit.htm

Patrick

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"symplastless" wrote in message
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Thanks for posting, however, not a very good article.

"70% alcohol" Not a good idea at all. It lubricates the pathogens.

Correction: There are no published data to show that diseases can be
transmitted to wood in trees by pruning tools. Pruning green current year
tissues may be different. Dissemination means to spread. Transmission
means to connect and bring on symptoms. If something is used a 10%
household bleach and water mixture will do.

--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for posting, however, not a very good article.

The only problem is the wounds they are showing are the result of a wound
from an ijury and not the sun.
They also fail to tell you that when you wrap the trunk it tree wrap it
reduces photosynthesis and the production of food for the plant. Wrapping a
trunk when moving a tree is a great idea but tree wrapping young trees
reduces food.


So you are drunk on new year eve right? Why post this crap?

Wrapping tree trunks stops photosythesis. Hmmmmm where does photosynthesis
take place in the bark of most trees? How is this important compared to
photosynthesis in leaves?


Tree Wrap http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/tree_wrap.html

"Tracing the bark around the split can be very helpful in aiding wound
healing" The problem with this statement is that tree wounds do not
heal!!!! That is like saying I photosynthesis. Silly for sure.

"70% alcohol" Not a good idea at all. It lubricates the pathogens.


What! 70% alcohol would be lethal to pathogens. Oh wait on . What exactly
do you mean by pathogens? It lubricates them. Hmm , so they slide up the
trunk perhaps? How much lubrication have you had today?

You show signs of being out of your tree.

David

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In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for posting, however, not a very good article.

The only problem is the wounds they are showing are the result of a wound
from an ijury and not the sun.
They also fail to tell you that when you wrap the trunk it tree wrap it
reduces photosynthesis and the production of food for the plant. Wrapping a
trunk when moving a tree is a great idea but tree wrapping young trees
reduces food.


So you are drunk on new year eve right? Why post this crap?

Wrapping tree trunks stops photosythesis. Hmmmmm where does photosynthesis
take place in the bark of most trees? How is this important compared to
photosynthesis in leaves?


Tree Wrap http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/tree_wrap.html

"Tracing the bark around the split can be very helpful in aiding wound
healing" The problem with this statement is that tree wounds do not
heal!!!! That is like saying I photosynthesis. Silly for sure.

"70% alcohol" Not a good idea at all. It lubricates the pathogens.


What! 70% alcohol would be lethal to pathogens. Oh wait on . What exactly
do you mean by pathogens? It lubricates them. Hmm , so they slide up the
trunk perhaps? How much lubrication have you had today?

You show signs of being out of your tree.

David

Why post this crap?

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.

Your entire post could have easily been: Can you quantify the importance
of photosynthesis that occurs on the trunk of a young tree as compared
to the photosynthesis in its' leaves, and please clarify statement on
use of 70% alcohol (Isopropyl, methyl, EtOH?) to reduce plant pathogens.

A question of my own is when did New Years Eve begin on New Year's Eve
morning? I realize that breakfast is the most important meal of the day
but still, I thought New Year's Eve started in the, you know, evening.
--

Billy

Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars
http://www.oxfamamerica.org/whatwedo...u-need-to-know

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

What does it matter if you do not understand compartmentalization?


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for posting, however, not a very good article.

The only problem is the wounds they are showing are the result of a
wound
from an ijury and not the sun.
They also fail to tell you that when you wrap the trunk it tree wrap it
reduces photosynthesis and the production of food for the plant.
Wrapping a
trunk when moving a tree is a great idea but tree wrapping young trees
reduces food.


So you are drunk on new year eve right? Why post this crap?

Wrapping tree trunks stops photosythesis. Hmmmmm where does
photosynthesis
take place in the bark of most trees? How is this important compared to
photosynthesis in leaves?


Tree Wrap http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/tree_wrap.html

"Tracing the bark around the split can be very helpful in aiding wound
healing" The problem with this statement is that tree wounds do not
heal!!!! That is like saying I photosynthesis. Silly for sure.

"70% alcohol" Not a good idea at all. It lubricates the pathogens.


What! 70% alcohol would be lethal to pathogens. Oh wait on . What
exactly
do you mean by pathogens? It lubricates them. Hmm , so they slide up
the
trunk perhaps? How much lubrication have you had today?

You show signs of being out of your tree.

David

Why post this crap?

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.

Your entire post could have easily been: Can you quantify the importance
of photosynthesis that occurs on the trunk of a young tree as compared
to the photosynthesis in its' leaves, and please clarify statement on
use of 70% alcohol (Isopropyl, methyl, EtOH?) to reduce plant pathogens.

A question of my own is when did New Years Eve begin on New Year's Eve
morning? I realize that breakfast is the most important meal of the day
but still, I thought New Year's Eve started in the, you know, evening.
--

Billy

Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars
http://www.oxfamamerica.org/whatwedo...u-need-to-know

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

Good question

I would take class on tree biology and take a closer look under a
microscope.

The green cortex of the stem is the site of photosynthesis. even when there
are no leaves on the tree. lenticels are for exchanging gases when no leave
son the tree.
http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/C/cortex.html

http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT20...tex_trunk.html

Also a very good source is
www.shigoandtrees.com


--
Sincerely,
John A. Keslick, Jr.
Consulting Arborist
http://home.ccil.org/~treeman
and www.treedictionary.com
Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology.
Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us
that we are not the boss.

"David Hare-Scott" wrote in message
...

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Thanks for posting, however, not a very good article.

The only problem is the wounds they are showing are the result of a wound
from an ijury and not the sun.
They also fail to tell you that when you wrap the trunk it tree wrap it
reduces photosynthesis and the production of food for the plant.
Wrapping a
trunk when moving a tree is a great idea but tree wrapping young trees
reduces food.


So you are drunk on new year eve right? Why post this crap?

Wrapping tree trunks stops photosythesis. Hmmmmm where does
photosynthesis
take place in the bark of most trees? How is this important compared to
photosynthesis in leaves?


Tree Wrap http://www.treedictionary.com/DICT2003/T/tree_wrap.html

"Tracing the bark around the split can be very helpful in aiding wound
healing" The problem with this statement is that tree wounds do not
heal!!!! That is like saying I photosynthesis. Silly for sure.

"70% alcohol" Not a good idea at all. It lubricates the pathogens.


What! 70% alcohol would be lethal to pathogens. Oh wait on . What
exactly
do you mean by pathogens? It lubricates them. Hmm , so they slide up the
trunk perhaps? How much lubrication have you had today?

You show signs of being out of your tree.

David

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

"Billy" wrote in message
...

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.


You are right. My tone was not waranted.

David

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.


You are right. My tone was not waranted.

David

You da man Dave.
--

Billy

Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars
http://www.antiwar.com/eland/index.php?articleid=8282
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

"Billy" wrote in message
...
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message
...

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.


You are right. My tone was not waranted.

Yeah it was, Billy is just an asshole.

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

"symplastless" wrote in message
. ..
Good question

I would take class on tree biology and take a closer look under a
microscope.

Good idea, when do you sign up?

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

"Billy" wrote in message news:wildbilly-
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.


You are right. My tone was not waranted.

David

You da man Dave.

Barf bucket time! I prefer David's honest irritation to your patronising
attitude any day of the week.

An Excellent Sunscald Article
 

In article
,
"FarmI" ask@itshall be given wrote:

"Billy" wrote in message news:wildbilly-
In article ,
"David Hare-Scott" wrote:
"Billy" wrote in message

Same thought occurred to me David, except I was thinking of your
gratuitous display of hostility.


You are right. My tone was not waranted.

David

You da man Dave.

Barf bucket time! I prefer David's honest irritation to your patronising
attitude any day of the week.

What? You've never made a mistake that you've apologized for? In you ear
an out the other side Sheila. Opinions are like bottoms, everyone has
one but nobody wants t hear it. Go bugger yourself.
--

Billy

Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars
http://www.antiwar.com/eland/index.php?articleid=8282
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush