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[email protected] 20-02-2003 10:41 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid

"Henry" wrote:

WWW. Jungseed.com




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Henry 20-02-2003 11:39 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
No difference- still the same response - basically a dead site. :(
wrote in message
...
try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid

"Henry" wrote:

WWW. Jungseed.com




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GrampysGurl 21-02-2003 12:51 AM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 

No difference- still the same response - basically a dead site. :(
wrote in message
...
try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid

"Henry" wrote:

WWW. Jungseed.com




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www.drsolo.com
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I get in ok.
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paghat 21-02-2003 02:03 AM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
Servers go down periodically from snowstorms or other phoneline
interference, from satellite interruptions, from shutting down
intentionally to do special downloads or software updates, from heavy
traffic hours limiting your ability to enter, from having been hacked....
Never assume a website is likely to be gone unless it's been gone for
longer than an hour.

-paghat the ratgirl

--
"Of what are you afraid, my child?" inquired the kindly teacher.
"Oh, sir! The flowers, they are wild," replied the timid creature.
-from Peter Newell's "Wild Flowers"
See the Garden of Paghat the Ratgirl: http://www.paghat.com/

Tim B 21-02-2003 08:39 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
Try again. The site is back up. My recent experience was being queued up
waiting for a customer service rep for 5-10 minutes.

"Henry" wrote in message
...
I was just wondering if anyone knows what happened to the JW Jung Seed Co

..
I tried to get on there web site ( WWW. Jungseed.com ) and it gave me a
weird page about a server setup. I tried calling and got perpetual busy
signals and tried e-mailing them with no response. Does anyone know what

the
story is with them-did they go under or what-any info would be

appreciated.
Henry





Tim B 23-02-2003 03:03 AM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
I have gotten that before when they were updating the site. Try again.

"Henry" wrote in message
...
This is totally strange - when I click on www.jungseed.com I get :
__________________________________________________ __________
Test page for OpenSA web server installation
If you can see this, it means that the installation of the OpenSA web

server
software on this system was successful. You may now add content to this
directory and replace this page.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
----


Seeing this instead of the website you expected?
This page is here because the site administrator has changed the
configuration of this web server.
Please contact the person responsible for maintaining this server with
questions. The OpenSA project, which produces the web server software this
site administrator is using, has nothing to do with maintaining this site
and cannot help resolve configuration issues.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
----


This is your first OpenSA installation?
Then checkout the OpenSA web server "admin guide"! It gives you an
introduction on installing the OpenSA web server and first time startup.
Here you'll find information on installing and configuring the OpenSA web
server, including module configuration, server settings, and security.



--------------------------------------------------------------------------

--
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Already an OpenSA user?
Then checkout the OpenSA web server "apache guide"! Here you'll find a
complete reference for installed Apache modules, their functions,
configuration directives and also information and links to commercial

third
party modules, to enhance your Apache installation


The OpenSA project: 1998-2002
__________________________________________________ _______________

I get this using Explorer or Netscape -hmmmmm






Tim B 23-02-2003 03:03 AM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
Some light from an IT person here ...

Unix and Linux are case sensitive. You can set up sites as case sensitive
there if you want. Generally not. Windows isn't case sensitive in that
respect.

wrote in message
...
try this

http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/r...yoldhouse.html
now try this

http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/R...yoldhouse.html

and tell me if case doesnt make a difference. Ingrid


"Shadow" wrote:


try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid


Just as an FYI, url's are not case sensitive, so upper or lower case will
work.




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www.drsolo.com
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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endorsements or recommendations I make.




Warren 23-02-2003 04:03 AM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
Tim B wrote:
Some light from an IT person here ...

Unix and Linux are case sensitive. You can set up sites as case

sensitive
there if you want. Generally not. Windows isn't case sensitive in

that
respect.


That's only part of the story.

The part of the url (or e-mail address, etc.) that is the FQDN (Fully
Qualified Domain Name) is not case sensitive. So in
http://servername.domainname.hierarchy/pathname the server name (often,
but not always www) and the domain name and hierarchy are not case
sensitive. Technically they are intended to be lower-case, but DNS
servers should be able to resolve them correctly no matter what the
case. Even DNS service running on *nix, which is the norm, will be able
to ignore the case of the FQDN part of the url.

Once you get onto the server, it could be case sensitive. Windows is not
case sensitive, so if the server is running IIS, it won't make a
difference. However the most popular webserver software is apache, and
is running on a *nix box, so the path name and the file name are going
to be case sensitive.

The http:// part of the address indicates the application protocol
(http, ftp, gopher, etc.), and whether or not you can use uppercase is
dependant on your browser's ability to interpret the instruction it's
giving. In most modern browsers it's optional, and if it's used is not
case sensitive.

Technically, the protocol and FQDN are intended to always be lower-case.
Convention used to be that even the case sensitive part of the url would
be in lower-case, but Windows' habit of changing the first letter of a
file name to a capital letter, and then people uploading those file
structures to *nix webservers have complicated things for everyone. No
longer can people say that url's are lower-case, but it's also not true
that the whole url is case sensitive.

However, none of that was relevant in solving the original poster's
problem. Turns out he had a HOSTS file that was resolving the url to an
old IP address without even asking the DNS server.

After that, doesn't gardening sound pretty simple? ;)

--
Warren H.

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Any resemblance to the views of anybody living or dead is
coincidental. No animals were hurt in the writing of this
response -- unless you count my dog who desperately wants
to go outside now.



Shadow 23-02-2003 04:03 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 

wrote in message
...
try this

http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/r...yoldhouse.html
now try this

http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/R...yoldhouse.html

and tell me if case doesnt make a difference. Ingrid


I guess I should have been more specific in my reply. What I meant to point
is the fact that a FQDN (Fully Qualifuied Domain Name) is not case
sensitive, In other words, DNS servers do not care whether you type the URL
in upper case or lower case. So, http://www.jungseed.com/ and
http://www.JUNGSEED.com will both work, and that was what I was referring
to. Now, having said that, if you are including a web directory in your URL
(as you have done in your example), then yes, case can become an issue,
depending on whether the web server is running a unix OS or Windows. Unix is
case sensitive, Windows is not. However, at this point we are on the
webserver. The name server has already done it's job by resolving the FQDN.

Sorry if I caused confusion

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.



Shadow 23-02-2003 04:15 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 

"Tim B" wrote in message
. ..
Some light from an IT person here ...

Unix and Linux are case sensitive. You can set up sites as case sensitive
there if you want. Generally not. Windows isn't case sensitive in that
respect.


You are absolutely correct in your statement regarding the fact that
unix/linux are case sensitive. However, what I was referring to is the fact
that DNS is not case sensitive, therefore, the name serevr does not care
whether you type the FQDN (excluding web directories) in upper case or lower
case. Case sensitivity only comes into play when you hit the web server,
depending on what OS the server is running on.

--
Shadow (SCSA, SCNA, RHCE)
Made In Canada, eh.



[email protected] 24-02-2003 10:03 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
try this http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/r...yoldhouse.html
now try this http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/R...yoldhouse.html

and tell me if case doesnt make a difference. Ingrid


"Shadow" wrote:


try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid


Just as an FYI, url's are not case sensitive, so upper or lower case will
work.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

[email protected] 24-02-2003 10:05 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 
try this http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/r...yoldhouse.html
now try this http://users.megapathdsl.net/~solo/R...yoldhouse.html

and tell me if case doesnt make a difference. Ingrid


"Shadow" wrote:


try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid


Just as an FYI, url's are not case sensitive, so upper or lower case will
work.




~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
List Manager: Puregold Goldfish List
http://puregold.aquaria.net/
www.drsolo.com
Solve the problem, dont waste energy finding who's to blame
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Unfortunately, I receive no money, gifts, discounts or other
compensation for all the damn work I do, nor for any of the
endorsements or recommendations I make.

Shadow 26-02-2003 02:03 PM

What happenned to JW Jung Seed Co ???
 

try http://www.jungseed.com/ lower case www. Ingrid


Just as an FYI, url's are not case sensitive, so upper or lower case will
work.

--
Shadow
Made In Canada, eh.




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