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"Don Staples" wrote in message ... here is 2 tree questions. You say "fighting deadwood" Very loose terms and not lucid. I never heard of such a thing. Please explain what you are saying. Define "dead" = Define "wood" = See, wood is not static so it may be hard to define like humic acids. Its constantly going through ecological stages. Don Where is your section on your web page as far as how you define a forester? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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I know all about Brownfingers back yard near the chippy, I've found many a battered brown trout in there in a hell of a state!!!! |
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John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Arborist http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. What the chuff is a consulting Arborist, someone who stands and stares at trees with their chopping tool in their hand looking rather flushed and excited????????????????????? Someone needs to get a PROPER JOB like kebab sales or uphill gardener!!!! |
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urs sincerly MuckyHoe |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:28:34 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: And do yourself and everyone else a favor; when directing people to the scientific evidence, try to refrain from using your own website to base your debate on. It's a bit nonsensicle. Until you dig mycorrhizae you should really reframe from such claims. Scientific research. get a shovel and go look!!!! They are there!!!!! I will say it again. A tree root is NOT mycorrhizae. They are two separate things, brought together via capillary water as a route and in a symbiotic expedition perform a valuable function to any plant which is susceptible to this formation. IT does not exist on it's own. As for digging; I don't know how old you are, but I've been digging in the dirt since I have been a child. I worked as a grower professionally for some years at both huge commercial, two million sq/ft under glass, to as small as five thousand sq/ft under glass. I think I have an understanding of this fungi, not a single fungus, as you call it. Great, please show me some of your pictures of mycorrhizae you have dug. You sound confused? A fungus infects a non-woody root of a tree and a mycorrhiza forms. This is an infection many trees rely on to bring in phosphates. They are common in, on and near large woody material as it decomposes. It is a organ which is a composite structure made up of both root tissue and fungus tissue. You may be speaking of something else. There are organs under water under ice in New Hampshire. They may be called Oomycorrhizae. Is that what you mean? Do you have a web site with your pictures? -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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-- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. "Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 12:30:09 -0500, "symplastless" wrote: Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. We aren't the boss? Who is? Are you saying someone up in the sky makes the earth quake, water flood, fires, storms and volcanic eruptions? That explains a lot I guess. |
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On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:05:54 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote: The fungi themselves, growing alone, are not called "mycorrhizae". VAM mycorrhizae are produced by any of about 200 fungi belonging to the genus Glomeromycota when they grown on or in or in sufficiently close proximity to tree roots. A phylogenetic tree for that genus can be found at http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~schuessler/amphylo/. Note that none of the species is called "mycorrhizae". If there's no fungus then there are no mycorrhizae. If there is no tree there are no mycorrhize. It's when you have _both_ that mycorrizae occur. So then grass, marigolds, grapevines, not being trees, don't have mycorrhiza? |
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Charles wrote: On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:05:54 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: The fungi themselves, growing alone, are not called "mycorrhizae". VAM mycorrhizae are produced by any of about 200 fungi belonging to the genus Glomeromycota when they grown on or in or in sufficiently close proximity to tree roots. A phylogenetic tree for that genus can be found at http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~schuessler/amphylo/. Note that none of the species is called "mycorrhizae". If there's no fungus then there are no mycorrhizae. If there is no tree there are no mycorrhize. It's when you have _both_ that mycorrizae occur. So then grass, marigolds, grapevines, not being trees, don't have mycorrhiza? Annuals have bacteria. Perennials like fungi. Annuals like a higher pH than perennials. -- Billy Bush & Cheney, Behind Bars http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/946709.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movemen...George_W._Bush |
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Charles wrote:
On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:05:54 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: The fungi themselves, growing alone, are not called "mycorrhizae". VAM mycorrhizae are produced by any of about 200 fungi belonging to the genus Glomeromycota when they grown on or in or in sufficiently close proximity to tree roots. A phylogenetic tree for that genus can be found at http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~schuessler/amphylo/. Note that none of the species is called "mycorrhizae". If there's no fungus then there are no mycorrhizae. If there is no tree there are no mycorrhize. It's when you have _both_ that mycorrizae occur. So then grass, marigolds, grapevines, not being trees, don't have mycorrhiza? Google "figurative language". -- -- --John to email, dial "usenet" and validate (was jclarke at eye bee em dot net) |
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"Charles" wrote in message ... On Mon, 21 Jan 2008 10:05:54 -0500, "J. Clarke" wrote: The fungi themselves, growing alone, are not called "mycorrhizae". VAM mycorrhizae are produced by any of about 200 fungi belonging to the genus Glomeromycota when they grown on or in or in sufficiently close proximity to tree roots. A phylogenetic tree for that genus can be found at http://www.lrz-muenchen.de/~schuessler/amphylo/. Note that none of the species is called "mycorrhizae". If there's no fungus then there are no mycorrhizae. If there is no tree there are no mycorrhize. It's when you have _both_ that mycorrizae occur. So then grass, marigolds, grapevines, not being trees, don't have mycorrhiza? Not from my understanding. I just found this list of plants which form endomycorrhizae. Please do not quote me on the accuracy of the list. Just an example. Acacia, Agapanthus, Ailanthus, Alder, Alfalfa, Almond, Apple, Apricot, Artichoke, Ash, Asparagus, Avocado, Bamboo, Banana, Basil, Bayberry, Bean, Begonia, Black Locust, Blackberry, Box Elder, Boxwood, Buckeye, Bulbs (all), Burning Bush, Cacao, Cactus, Camellia, Carrot, Cassava, Catalpa, Ceanothus, Celery, Cherry, Chokeberry, Chrysanthemum, Citrus (all), Clover, Coconut, Coffee, Coral Tree, Corn, Cotton, Cottonwood, Crabapple, Cryptomeria, Cucumber, Currant, Cypress, Dogwood, Eggplant, Elm, Euonymus, Fern, Fescue, Fig, Forsythia, Fountain Grass, Fuschia, Gardenia, Garlic, Geranium, Ginko, Grapes (all), Grass, Gum, Hackberry, Hawthorne, Hibiscus, Holly, Hophornbeam, Hornbeam, Horsechestnut, Impatiens, Jojoba, Juniper, Kiwi, Leek, Lettuce, Lily, Locust, London, Magnolia, Mahogany, Mahonia, Mango, Maples (all), Marigold, Melons (all), Mesquite, Millet, Mimosa, Morning Glory, Mulberry, Monkeypod, Nasturtium, Okra, Olive, Onion, Pacific Yew, Palms (all), Palmetto, Pampas Grass, Papaya, Paulownia, Passion Fruit, Paw Paw, Pea, Peach, Peanut, Pear, Pecan, Pepper, Pistachio, Persimmon, Pittosporum, Plum, Poinsettia, Potato, Poplar, Raintree, Raphiolepis, Raspberry, Redbud, Redwood, Rice, Rose, Russian Olive, Ryegrass, Sagebrush, Sassafras, Serviceberry, Sourwood, Soybean, Squash (all), Strawberry, Sudan Grass, Sugar Cane, Sumac, Sunflower, Sweet Gum, Sweet Potato, Sycamore, Tea, Tobacco, Tomato, Tree-of-heaven, Tupelo, Walnut, Wheat, Yam, Yellow Poplar, Yucca. Better said, without the plant root tissues, or without the fungus tissues you cannot have a mycorrhiza. Again the word mycorrhiza is Greek. "mycor" meaning fungi. "rhiza" meaning root. It is a composite organ made up of plant root tissues and fungi tissues. Is it root or fungus? The answer is yes. People don't like that kind of question. The same site had a list of plants that do not respond to endo or ecto. They had pine and oak on the list. Anytime I dug pine or oak roots I found ectomycorrhizae. So please do not quote that list. -- Sincerely, John A. Keslick, Jr. Consulting Forester & Tree Expert http://home.ccil.org/~treeman and www.treedictionary.com Beware of so-called tree experts who do not understand tree biology. Storms, fires, floods, earthquakes, and volcanic eruptions keep reminding us that we are not the boss. |
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